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Apple can get around this by making iMessage available online with the best features only available on an Apple device. Android and Windows users would still be able to participate in iMessage group chats and follow their friends but a native experience, and features like Memoji/Animoji, GIFs, etc would need to happen on device.

Best of luck.
Using Telegram and Signal, one can get a feeling how buggy iMessage really is. Sorry but I cannot see all my contacts using other SMS/MMS/IM options jumping onto iMessage. Especially if the bennies are iPhone only. That is dead out of the gate IMO.
 
iMessage is turning into bloatware. I have an old iPhone that runs iOS 9 and iMessage on that OS is so much nicer and simpler to use. I prefer it leaps & bounds over what it has currently morphed into. iOS 15 looks like it's going to pile on even more fat
I understand wanting it to be light but I think it needs to get more competitive and robust with features to stay competitive with WhatsApp and Telegram, etc. The ability to save chats, export, more reactions, etc., would be welcome to me. Hopefully, they keep the interface quick and light at the same time.
 
I couldn’t care less about most new iMessage features but I’d pay a thousand dollars right now to be able to natively schedule messages to go out in the future.
 
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Not sure why "finally" is the word being used. Not sure how many people have been on the edge of their seats waiting for an iMessage revamp.

There's many more pressing issues that need updates (like iPadOS) that people are concerned about compared to iMessage.
That’s one of the things about Apple, they are good at giving u things u wasn’t thinkin about or wanting !
 
It actually seems they may be trying to make iMessage more like Slack but for your everyday life, rather than another failed social network platform—if any of it is true. If you think about it that way, making iMessage more Slack-like actually feels like a good strategy!
 
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People like to think of Apple as a failure in social media because of Ping and Connect but Apple is in fact one of the leading social media companies in the world. iMessage is essentially a social network for Apple users.

I’d like to see Apple continue to dig the knife in Facebook. iMessage is the place to do it. Add a profile in iMessage that can be updated with shares from other apps. Want to share an album from Photos? Drop it in your iMessage profile and approved friends can see them. Share a story from Apple News or your new must listen Apple Music album.

This kind of built in functionality would give a whole swath of demographics a reason to leave Facebook and its apps. Your parents you want to keep in touch with? Ditch Facebook, update their iPad to iOS 15 and use iMessage instead. Kids who already use iMessage but need apps like Instagram to build a profile of their life.

If any app deserves to be Sherlocked, it’s Facebook.
I don’t know why a nos of iOS users objected Apple to launch an andriod ver of iMessage.

thats would effectively make iMessage more usable as more users would be accessible to IMessage.

for the moment, iMessage is more popular in US and more narrowly available to Apple users. A lot of people have been thinking of a switch from WhatsApp to other instant messenger. Signal s development is slow probably lacking the funds that Apple has too much.

Telegram is of a different type. Most users like to use it as web forums or groups. Most of the telegram users like to hidden their identities, while WhatsApp is used for communication between known contacts, which attracted privacy concerns that Apple excels in.
 
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I feel this is far too little, far too late from Apple. Back in 2013 I had various chats in iMessage, but then along came WhatsApp. Back then you were even supposed to pay £/$/€1 per year. But since then, slowly but surely all the group chats have migrated to it. Now the only person I use iMessage with is with my wife because she uses her iPad rather than phone when at home. If Apple had released android (and windows) app this would not have happened, and like with the iPod, Apple would have gained from the halo effect. Instead they’ve been losing users to WhatsApp (and other platforms).
 
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It actually seems they may be trying to make iMessage more like Slack but for your everyday life, rather than another failed social network platform—if any of it is true. If you think about it that way, making iMessage more Slack-like actually feels like a good strategy!
This is probably where they‘re headed to. They should try to compete with Telegram and not WhatsApp. Telegram has the much better feature set and the worse stance on privacy (no proper E2EE by default etc).
 
Apple can get around this by making iMessage available online with the best features only available on an Apple device. Android and Windows users would still be able to participate in iMessage group chats and follow their friends but a native experience, and features like Memoji/Animoji, GIFs, etc would need to happen on device.
This makes a lot of sense to me, too. It's similar to how Apple (and others) have their best hardware features (e.g., certain airbud controls or connectivity) available only within the :apple:ecosystem, but they still work with other systems. It continues to encourage a comprehensive :apple: set-up, but doesn't preclude use for others.

With the recent security and privacy focus, I'm also thinking there may be some system-wide delete options that truly lets the sender make messages disappear everywhere.
 
What about the ability to prevent someone in your list from adding you into a group message circus without your approval? I would also like to have a way to completely get out of a group message.
Exactly. I’ve tried to abandon a group chat numerous times, but I get added right back in. The only way to get out of it, is to block the person. There’s got to be a better option.
 
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iMessage will never truly take off as a "social network" until it's cross platform. Half of my friends use Android phones; we all use Telegram to chat because it's available on all our devices.
I wonder how many people would switch off iPhones to Android if iMessage is cross platform. Even I considered it at one point. The Samsung Galaxy phones are nice, but Android itself is just so bad compared to iOS (and most phones aren't supported for very long).

I started on Android before coming to iOS many years ago. Yes being able to do almost anything you want on Android is cool but you get over it quickly once you realize most things (even the most basic things like scrolling) simply don't work well or run smoothly. iPhone 4S [my 1st iPhone] felt like a dream phone as everything ran smoothly like water flowing in a river. Never looked back since then.

Anyways the point is I agree with the person above. It needs to go cross platform to truly take off, and I won't be surprised if iMessage for Android is unveiled at WWDC. This is probably bigger than we realize.
 
how about making the app a simple messenger again, without all the unnecessary clutter? apple has been adding all kinds of clutter and bloat to their apps as of late with very little thought process behind it.
 
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Why would I settle on SMS/MMS messaging with a significant amount of my friends and family when competitors provide a much better service?

I know the US is different for some reason, but if I suggested to people here in Europe that we should move our individual and group chats to SMS there'd be a lot of laughter. And then everyone would go back to WhatsApp.

I live in Norway and I have never used anything like WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram.

I only communicate with one Android-phone and SMS is fine then.
 
I'd think if they wanted to compete with Whatsapp they would have to open up imessages to Android, I don't think that would ever happen.
 
Apple can get around this by making iMessage available online with the best features only available on an Apple device. Android and Windows users would still be able to participate in iMessage group chats and follow their friends but a native experience, and features like Memoji/Animoji, GIFs, etc would need to happen on device.
Hmm, it depends if they could make an online version not clunky, in particular when used with a mobile device. I would definitely take a stripped down imessage on a non Apple device though (Heck I'd take a stripped down version on an Apple phone as well). Most of the stuff they add seems to be just filler junk anyway, just give me texting and true MMS and I'll be more than happy.
 
how about making the app a simple messenger again, without all the unnecessary clutter? apple has been adding all kinds of clutter and bloat to their apps as of late with very little thought process behind it.

Or give us two versions compatible with each other. A true Messenger app and a Social Media version app.

My preference is just fix it and let us assign a default app.
 
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