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It isn't actually replaced, it's just completely locked out.

How is restricting access to something innovative? All it's doing is forcing the user to do things a certain way, limiting what they can do.

Want to attach some files to an email reply? Get real! .. How innovative.

I agree that it used to be impossible to do something as simple as add an attachment. But I was pleasantly surprised with iOS 9, as I can add an attachment from OneDrive, Box, Dropbox and iCloud Drive. The future is cloud storage, and the iPad is simply becoming a safe endpoint. The main issue with iOS devices is the single user approach, yet they aren't used that way. How long until you get multi-user functionality in iOS?

BTW, I used Microsoft and Apple products interchangeabley, they lines are blurring.
 
I agree that it used to be impossible to do something as simple as add an attachment. But I was pleasantly surprised with iOS 9, as I can add an attachment from OneDrive, Box, Dropbox and iCloud Drive. The future is cloud storage, and the iPad is simply becoming a safe endpoint. The main issue with iOS devices is the single user approach, yet they aren't used that way. How long until you get multi-user functionality in iOS?

BTW, I used Microsoft and Apple products interchangeabley, they lines are blurring.

It's taken a very long time just to get there.

I don't really think the lines are blurring all that much. iOS still lacks a ton of usability that MS addresses. The list of things the iPad can't do, or can't do easily, is extensive.

It isn't just "single user"... it's single task. Sure, you can switch between apps in a very single-task fashion... but fingers crossed your app didn't lose your spot and restart/refresh somewhere else.

I have never needed a USB peripheral for anything I use an iPad for.

Maybe you would use an iPad for more things if you could do those things.

You're putting the cart in front of the horse.
 
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This team is in desperate trouble, and obviously don't use their own products.

A mouse that can't be used while it's charging. A foreign cable system that is made of the worst, most consumer unfriendly materials imaginable. A keyboard with worse travel that ignores the things people actually wanted fixing (the backlight and the numpad option). A trackpad that's huge for no good reason, and less attractive. A desktop Mac with an incredibly slow hard drive and still nothing interesting to address it's complete lack of graphics power while trying to push more pixels.

It's clear this team is lost, with poor leadership. They need help.
 
"The job of the iPad should be to be so powerful and capable that you never need a notebook. Like, Why do I need a notebook? I can add a keyboard! I can do all these things!"
Seems like there's a false assumption in there. The iPad in no way is so capable that you don't need a notebook. That's a fantasy world. I guarantee none of the engineers or accountants or anyone doing serious work at Apple HQ uses an iPad as their primary device. Maybe managers and execs who are mostly reading reports and responding to email and scheduling meetings. Hopefully that's just Phil Schiller using every opportunity to promote Apple products -- and not that people at Apple really actually believe the iPad in it's current state replaces a notebook. Even serious Apple fanboys like me don't believe that.
I'll disagree to a point...

I was able to spend an entire month using only an iPad. The catch was that at some point I got fed up and had a Bluetooth keyboard shipped to me because the SSH software is really horrible to deal with with autocomplete and no F function keys. As it turns out... the iOS doesn't even pass F keys on a BT keyboard as F keys, they control the iOS volume and screen brightness.
 
Apple has always had the worst mice. The Magic Mouse is awful to hold and the control surface is really difficult to control. The last one I had before that was the one with that god-awful "pea" scrollwheel that would get gummed up constantly, and before that, I think it was a clear one which wasn't too terrible but also didn't have right-click. And before that... the puck. Oh god, the puck.

I agree, I can't understand Apple's goals with their mice. They're absolute crap.
 
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MR: I'll take your link - I can click it. You can keep your copy, I am off to read REAL journalism.
 
For those who complain about the lack of touchscreens on Macs - (from the article):

"There’s one thing, however, that is conspicuously not in the new iMacs — a touch screen. While Microsoft and others now believe that multi-touch should extend to the desktop display, Apple believes this is dead wrong. “From the ergonomic standpoint we have studied this pretty extensively and we believe that on a desktop scenario where you have a fixed keyboard, having to reach up to do touch interfaces is uncomfortable,” says Schiller. “iOS from its start has been designed as a multi-touch experience — you don’t have the things you have in a mouse-driven interface, like a cursor to move around, or teeny little ‘close’ boxes that you can’t hit with your finger. The Mac OS has been designed from day one for an indirect pointing mechanism. These two worlds are different on purpose, and that’s a good thing — we can optimize around the best experience for each and not try to mesh them together into a least-common-denominator experience.” "

Nailed it, dead centre.
 
we will spend countless hours tweaking mouse feet, but stick with 5400rpm hds
You do realize that engineering most likely isn't making that decision. Blame rests squarely on Phil Schiller and marketing IMO.
 
Interesting how they are finicky about how the mouse sounds, but not the fact of how stupid it will look upside down with a lightning cable sticking out of it, rendering it useless while charging, or the fact it's an ergonomic nightmare :p
Right because you really need to use the mouse for the two minutes you're charging it (to get 9 hours of battery life). But if it bothers you that much just stick it on an iPhone charger dock.
 
My question is why does the world's most advanced operating system NEED a non-spinning drive to be fast. Seems like lazy to me. Snow Leopard (yes, that old argument again) seemed to do just fine at 5400 RPM.

Windows 10 runs nicely on a spinning Harddrive. OSX does not.
 
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Right because you really need to use the mouse for the two minutes you're charging it (to get 9 hours of battery life). But if it bothers you that much just stick it on an iPhone charger dock.

Regardless, the bottom of a mouse is a stupid place for the charge port, for a company who pay attention to the smallest details.

Why couldn't they have designed a more ergonomic mouse with a lightning port at the back so you can use it while it's charging?

You can't deny it's a stupid design choice, the trackpad and keyboard have seen improvements as you can charge and contiune working which is easier than changing batteries, Apple make the best keyboards and trackpads no doubt, but they always seem to stuggle with mice.
 
Maybe you would use an iPad for more things if you could do those things.

You're putting the cart in front of the horse.

Maybe that is a way to think about it, but I think about all the other peripherals that I have ever used on my desktops, and not a single one would be beneficial for me to use "on-the-go". Everything that I would use with my iPad has Bluetooth functionality, with is compatible with the iPad.
 
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Well;
I've gotten 6 years of near daily usage from my 2009 27" iMac, and now looking at the below.

Thoughts/comments?
Anyone else here have a similar machine , how do you like it?
I'm looking to get again 6 years from this machine ....
yep 2021!

27-inch iMac with Retina 5K display
  • 4.0GHz quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 4.2GHz
  • 16GB 1867MHz DDR3 SDRAM - two 8GB
  • 3TB Fusion Drive
  • AMD Radeon R9 M395X with 4GB video memory
  • Magic Mouse 2 + Magic Trackpad 2

For reference the 2009 27" iMac.
2009-imac-27-jpg.592397


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Ha, my bad it's iMac not imack, fat fingers
 
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Seems Schiller doesn't want to mesh the other way neither .... e.g. OS X on ipad Pro, regardless of bigger relastate and Apple pen.

It's one thing to be a limited eco-system, but i never thought Apple had to *think* like one too.
 
"The job of the iPad should be to be so powerful and capable that you never need a notebook. Like, Why do I need a notebook? I can add a keyboard! I can do all these things!"
Seems like there's a false assumption in there. The iPad in no way is so capable that you don't need a notebook. That's a fantasy world. I guarantee none of the engineers or accountants or anyone doing serious work at Apple HQ uses an iPad as their primary device. Maybe managers and execs who are mostly reading reports and responding to email and scheduling meetings. Hopefully that's just Phil Schiller using every opportunity to promote Apple products -- and not that people at Apple really actually believe the iPad in it's current state replaces a notebook. Even serious Apple fanboys like me don't believe that.

That comment is hilariously stupid on his part. And no, Phil, still not buying an iPad Pro that still doesn't replace my MacBook. Maybe if the iPad grows some balls.... (the pro is still pubescent) but until then.... watch as the world moves to Surface and Surface like devices while you still insist people don't want them.... yet it's the largest growth category in computing since the tablet. Why add touch to the iMac or make a hyrbrid device? Oh right, you don't get about pro users or business...
 
I agree, I can't understand Apple's goals with their mice. They're absolute crap.

I wouldn't use mighty mouse if it were free.... literally. The last iMac I bought saw it in use for a day before I bought something else. Then to jack the price up... yet in the same breath say people really use the iPad and not the mac???
 
Well;
I've gotten 6 years of near daily usage from my 2009 27" iMac, and now looking at the below.

Thoughts/comments?

That's just about what I would get. Personally I would do the RAM myself for less money, and spend more to get the 1TB SSD.

I'll be doing just that whenever I can scrounge up the funds.
 
A second medium story that includes photos of some of the machinery and testing kit Apple engineers use.

https://medium.com/p/6637e2e5492e

Interesting that Apple allowed photos for this PR piece but the Bloomberg one right after the September event, which took place in Apple's design studio, had no photos. I guess that's one place off limits to cameras.
 
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