Apple's Interest in Augmented Reality Technology Continues at CES 2019

[WatchFromAfar]

We have had this discussion. To be clear, WE don't think this replaces laboratory instruction. The goal is to make lab time more efficient since it is a very expensive component of the course. That said, I doubt there will ever be global equality in education. We don't have anything like that here in the US. Heck, we don't have that within individual states. As far as cadaver go, there are countries where students don't have access to real cadavers now.

Well first of all I sure don't know who this "WE" you are quoting is (a form of intimidation?) but anything that introduces an additional step between "education" and "real-life" (that's why I used cadavers as an example) is a bad thing. All at that point you are doing is introducing a new practice step; but those pushing the tech never say "it's a practice step" they maintain it's equal to or replaces actual experience over the real thing (which is clearly nonsense).

 

[vcboard]

Feels like Apple is losing focus and they are afraid, not sure what to do. AR/VR, car, TV, AI, speaker, but none of them are becoming the leading product.

 

[PJL500]

Headsets are to AR the way buggy whips are to space travel.

 

[NT1440]

Feels like Apple is losing focus and they are afraid, not sure what to do. AR/VR, car, TV, AI, speaker, but none of them are becoming the leading product.

That’s because they’re still being developed. Apple has been all-in on building out their vision of AR since at least 2013. Building a paradigm shift in computing takes time, as they’re literally building the UX/UI for their vision of the future of computing. You either fully flesh out your system, or you end up with a Google-we hoped the public would do our R&D-glass type joke.

 

[fathergll]

VR was kind of a flop as predicted. AR on the other hand might be interesting if it’s non intrusive. Unfortunately, other than having lens implanted in your retina, who would want to wear lens/glasses if they didn’t have to?

VR is still very primitive and ease of use via hardware is its hindrance. I wouldn't make any definitive statements about it at this point.

 

[4jasontv]

Well first of all I sure don't know who this "WE" you are quoting is (a form of intimidation?) but anything that introduces an additional step between "education" and "real-life" (that's why I used cadavers as an example) is a bad thing. All at that point you are doing is introducing a new practice step; but those pushing the tech never say "it's a practice step" they maintain it's equal to or replaces actual experience over the real thing (which is clearly nonsense).

I saw the 'we' thing and tried to clarify it before you replied.

The issue with your cadaver example is that there isn't enough of them for every student, let alone enough for most students to get the exposure needed. When you have highly respected schools that have 8 to 10 people per cadaver and entire countries that don't have any for their students, these 'practice steps' are essential to their education.

 

[now i see it]

AR will eventually die the same lingering death as QTVR and SVG

 

[cajun67]

AR will eventually die the same lingering death as QTVR and SVG

The concept of QTVR is very much alive and thriving.

Ever use Google Street View?

 

[miniyou64]

Have you even tried on Apple Watch & AirPods ? The Magical delight still remains !

My AirPods hardly ever connect properly to my iPhone 7. Lose connection. Wont connect etc. They used OLED for flagship iPhones which has PWM and really bothers my eyes. Changed the size of new Apple Watches when the 42 fit perfectly before. As a power user I find a new bug almost every day in iOS. The list goes on and on. Apple is more concerned with putting out “mainstream” products than high quality “it just works experiences”

 

[cajun67]

My AirPods hardly ever connect properly to my iPhone 7. Lose connection. Wont connect etc. They used OLED for flagship iPhones which has PWM and really bothers my eyes. Changed the size of new Apple Watches when the 42 fit perfectly before. As a power user I find a new bug almost every day in iOS. The list goes on and on. Apple is more concerned with putting out “mainstream” products than high quality “it just works experiences”

I use my Airpods daily, for hours at a time. I wear them on the train to commute, and often wear them throughout the day at work. Never a problem.

There's only one place that I have a problem with them to where the connection is not reliable, and that's sitting at home at my desk. I have a LOT of tech in my home office, so hard to say what the culprit is that's interfering.

 

[Defthand]

Unlike VR, AR has already demonstrated real potential in commercial uses. It’s possible Apple’s initial foray with AR will be for professional applications, not consumer ones.

 

[racerhomie]

My AirPods hardly ever connect properly to my iPhone 7. Lose connection. Wont connect etc. They used OLED for flagship iPhones which has PWM and really bothers my eyes. Changed the size of new Apple Watches when the 42 fit perfectly before. As a power user I find a new bug almost every day in iOS. The list goes on and on. Apple is more concerned with putting out “mainstream” products than high quality “it just works experiences”

I would suggest wiping your iPhone & starting from stratch. I have an iPhone SE & not facing these issues. I am not a fan of OLED either. You should forget your AirPods & pair them again. This happened once to me in the middle of last year.

 

[jerryk]

Seems like Microsoft already has most of this market. Over $600M in sales of their Hololenses and support

 

[nikaru]

Feels like Apple is losing focus and they are afraid, not sure what to do. AR/VR, car, TV, AI, speaker, but none of them are becoming the leading product.

The problem is that if Apple does not sell 100 milion units of its new product during the first year it is considered a failure basically. That is how high is the bar for Apple. The Air Pods were a hit and they are selling for tens of milions around the world. The Apple Watch was also a huge hit and outsold all traditional high-end watches and all smart watches combined. Obviously, you cant expect every single product they release to be a game changer and revolutionaize the industry like the iPhone or the iPad did. Apple is so huge that they can comfortably focus on a wide variaty of products. The problem comes when they release lame products, like the latest macbooks full of problems and the apple tv for example which is quite mediocre product and sells poorly. All Apple products are good. The problem is that some of them are not better than the competition.

 

[twolf2919]

I still don't see how AR or VR will change anything. Apart from Gaming.
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Oh, come on, it's so easy to see how AR will revolutionize mobility!
(VR, at least for the foreseeable future is a niche thing for gaming).

How often do you take your phone out of your pocket every day? I saw a statistic (not sure if accurate) that it's 100+ times for the average iPhone user. Many (most?) are notifications for information - i.e. nothing you really have to act on. With AR glasses - much like you already do with an Apple Watch - you could leave that phone in your pocket.

Navigation: with AR glasses, you basically have a Heads Up Display that can superimpose navigational aids on your view ahead - no need to ever look down at the map on your phone or in your car.

Have trouble remembering people's names? Imagine their name appearing above the head of everyone you meet

The list is literally endless. Not necessarily better in all aspects (see "Black Mirror" for an exploration of its dark side; the folks in this series wear AR contacts.)

 

[Aeolius]

VR is just getting started I'd say it is still in the "smartphones before the iPhone" era, with Oculus Quest just around the corner with a chance of being the equivalent of the first iPhone and changing the whole industry.

I got an Oculus Go for the holidays and cannot wait for the Quest! wireless, 2 controllers, and 6 degrees of freedom? Bring it on! Once you've seen videos in 360 you won't want to go back!

 

[ksec]

Oh, come on, it's so easy to see how AR will revolutionize mobility!
(VR, at least for the foreseeable future is a niche thing for gaming).

How often do you take your phone out of your pocket every day? I saw a statistic (not sure if accurate) that it's 100+ times for the average iPhone user. Many (most?) are notifications for information - i.e. nothing you really have to act on. With AR glasses - much like you already do with an Apple Watch - you could leave that phone in your pocket.

Navigation: with AR glasses, you basically have a Heads Up Display that can superimpose navigational aids on your view ahead - no need to ever look down at the map on your phone or in your car.

Have trouble remembering people's names? Imagine their name appearing above the head of everyone you meet

The list is literally endless. Not necessarily better in all aspects (see "Black Mirror" for an exploration of its dark side; the folks in this series wear AR contacts.)

1. Because No one wants to wear glasses all the time.
2. AR Contacts are Sci Fic.
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Education.

That is certainly a possibility.