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And an operating system optimized for the iPhone ... see anything wrong with that " Pro line " picture?
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And with the current exchange rate, Canadians are going to pay dearly for that added connotation.

i've got an iPad Air (1), there's absolutely nothing in the Air 2, or now "pro air" that Could entice me to spend $700+ on a new iPad.
 
i've got an iPad Air (1), there's absolutely nothing in the Air 2, or now "pro air" that Could entice me to spend $700+ on a new iPad.

At least you're not the victim. It's ludicrous to see people are willing to pay 700 for an iPad and iPhone. Apple only charges that much because we allow them to.
 
At least you're not the victim. It's ludicrous to see people are willing to pay 700 for an iPad and iPhone. Apple only charges that much because we allow them to.
In fairness top tier phones do cost that amount or close to it these days.
 
iPad Pro 9.7-inch
  • Same resolution as big pro
  • Slightly lower clocked A9X
  • All Pro features
  • Start at 32GB
  • 3-4GB Ram
  • $649 or $699
Apple will probably drop the "Air" and "mini" names this fall. Simplifies the lineup into iPad and iPad Pro. So 7.9 and 9.7 inch iPads, and 9.7 and 12 inch iPad Pros.
 
At least you're not the victim. It's ludicrous to see people are willing to pay 700 for an iPad and iPhone. Apple only charges that much because we allow them to.

To put in prospective.

I'm Canadian, Apple raised all our prices last year. To get a base model 16gb 6s, with tax is close to $1000.

There's nothing wrong with an iPhone, but it's not worth $1000
 
To put in prospective.

I'm Canadian, Apple raised all our prices last year. To get a base model 16gb 6s, with tax is close to $1000.

There's nothing wrong with an iPhone, but it's not worth $1000

Prices increased in Europe, too. They went up 70-90€ per model depending on the country. Now the 16GB 6s is 759€ in Finland which is quite a bit too much for that joke of a storage. Usable models start from 869€. I'd really like to upgrade my old iPad 3 especially if the Apple Pencil support is there, but I can't help being worried about the price.
 
If this is the case the the iPad Pro should have been called the iPad Plus. Having the iPad Pro in two sizes will just be confusing.
I agree. I've previously explained (my thoughts as to) why Apple HAD to use the "Pro" qualifier rather than the more accurate/consistent "Plus".

There has been so much buzz and rumor about Apple producing a true 2-in-1 hybrid iPad that Apple had to do something to put the rumors to rest. By calling the iPad Pro, "Pro", Apple was telling consumers, "don't expect another iPad to be released that will be a converged hybrid. THIS is as close as we're getting." If Apple named it "iPad Plus", then people would still be talking about and expecting a "Pro" device.

The downside to that approach has been the (IMO unfair) criticism of the iPad Pro. Apple was willing to take their lumps because of their naming choice. I've even said that my Surface 2 (the much maligned tablet that runs Windows RT) is far more "Pro" than the top-of-the-line iPad Pro.

Although I bought an Air 2 a few months ago, if the Air 3 is really going to be an iPad Pro Air with the current Air pricing, then I'm all over it.
 
Apple will probably drop the "Air" and "mini" names this fall. Simplifies the lineup into iPad and iPad Pro. So 7.9 and 9.7 inch iPads, and 9.7 and 12 inch iPad Pros.

I'd keep Mini, but definitely drop the Air. I'd change the iPhone naming too:

iPad (10" model)
iPad Pro
iPad Mini

iPhone
iPhone Pro (instead of +)
iPhone Mini (4" model)
 
Just never say never when it comes to future products. There was a time when it was thought that Apple would never make a large iPhone, or a pencil for the iPad or a back cover for the iPad etc. Personally, I do think they will make a hybrid device someday.
 
Just never say never when it comes to future products. There was a time when it was thought that Apple would never make a large iPhone, or a pencil for the iPad or a back cover for the iPad etc. Personally, I do think they will make a hybrid device someday.

Yeah I'm saying never. Apple don't have that much imagination. Do you realise how much work that would take?
Far easier and cheaper to re-release the same hardware and OS over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over.......
 
Yeah I'm saying never. Apple don't have that much imagination. Do you realise how much work that would take?
Far easier and cheaper to re-release the same hardware and OS over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over.......

Apple doesn't have imagination?!?!? Okaaaaaay then.
 
My iPad 3 is showing its age. WIFI is slow and it locked constantly. Have a 13" pro from work to test, but the 9.7 is intriguing to me as well. What a decision.
 
At least you're not the victim. It's ludicrous to see people are willing to pay 700 for an iPad and iPhone. Apple only charges that much because we allow them to.

There is no victim, I willing buy something that's top notch and will last 5-7 years for that price; see how it goes. That's about $100 a year, I spend that on coffee in a month; so I'm not going to sweat it out.
The "victim" is someone who buys the thing and then whines about it.
 
They can make an Air 3 for the fall by getting rid of the headphone jack. If they want the iPhone 7 without it, the fall would be a good time to release a few products together that show off wireless EarPods or whatever and lightning connector headphones. Could also introduce some type of iPod/shuffle with the same tech.
 
If it stays at the current price point of the 9.7 inch line, I'll sell my 2012 rMBP for this and a new iMac.
I've been considering the same thing! iPads are definitely not a replacement for a main machine, but they complement them well. Especially because I can get by using Parallels to access my desktop from a mobile device as if it were actually on my device.
 
I have to admit i was skeptical of the "big iPad pro" at first. Since I've bought it and started using it as my main device outside the house (I used to travel with the 15 inch rmbp) i have absolutely loved it. I had an air 2 and it was nice but never got a good feel for using it as a daily driver. An air 3 to me would be essentially an air 2.
 
At least you're not the victim. It's ludicrous to see people are willing to pay 700 for an iPad and iPhone. Apple only charges that much because we allow them to.

Apple is not the only one that charges that much for smartphones or tablets. Other top flagship phones costs the same or more than what Apple charges. Also somebody that willingly buys a products, weather it be overpriced or not, are not victims they are consumers. A victim is a person who is tricked or duped. There is a difference. Nobody is being tricked or duped into buying a Apple products just like nobody is being ticked or duped into buying a android device. Know what a word means before just spewing nonsense out of your mouth.
 
It really depends on one's needs. I use my Pro as an adjunct to my Mac. I like being able to carry it with a Bluetooth keyboard when I don't want to lug around a 15 inch rMBP. I can write in Word, do some Excel work and then surf the web. With the video dongle I can even carry it in my briefcase instead of the Mac and still run a presentation. The pencil means I can actually take notes and have a PDF record I file under the appropriate client for easy recall.

I also use it, with Duet as a second screen for when I travel, since the 12 inch screen is much more usable than the one on my Air as a monitor.

Keeping the Air2 at a lower price point gives someone who just wants a tablet without the Pro features an option, especially if the lower the price point. It's a lot like the current MB lineup; if all you need is OSX the entry to level models are greater, but if you need more power teh higher end models offer that. It's all about offering models at various price points to entice buyers with the features they need at a price they can afford.

As for developers, more sales of pencil enabled iPads means they are more likely to add features to make their apps appeal to Pro users and a greater base for potential sales.

Apple, meanwhile can add features to iOS to make better use of the Pro features to make Pros more compelling for buyers who want a more powerful OS.

YMMV.

Great post. Lots of uses for a larger iPad and also the same for the air.
I hope people give this a lot of consideration when purchasing. I returned 2 pros [mainly due to financial considerations] before settling on the cellular model after a lot of thought on my usage. It was in the end the right decision for my needs. I also have an iPad air 2 through work so was easily able to compare.

The iPad pro replaces my macbook and iPad air.

I agree with the above though - iOS needs some more pro features and some apps needs more polish. I am confident it will get there.
 
Prices increased in Europe, too. They went up 70-90€ per model depending on the country. Now the 16GB 6s is 759€ in Finland which is quite a bit too much for that joke of a storage. Usable models start from 869€. I'd really like to upgrade my old iPad 3 especially if the Apple Pencil support is there, but I can't help being worried about the price.

Prices increased in Europe, too. They went up 70-90€ per model depending on the country. Now the 16GB 6s is 759€ in Finland which is quite a bit too much for that joke of a storage. Usable models start from 869€. I'd really like to upgrade my old iPad 3 especially if the Apple Pencil support is there, but I can't help being worried about the price.

Apple put the prices up due to exchange rates crashing in Canada and Europe. It was unavoidable. On the positive side, Apple tends to only update prices on new model launches/refreshes. So towards the end of the previous models life, they would have been losing money (well,lower profit) by absorbing the exchange rate changes.
 
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