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The figures '1.5m tablets sold / week' and '9.2m tablets sold last quarter' just don't add up...

In any case, it is really surprising that all iOS tablets are outselling just one Android tablet? And to play devil's advocate, you have to consider that Android tablets are available in far fewer countries...

1.5 every two weeks
 
No carriers to help Android iPad clones

It's interesting how Google is unable to translate their smartphone share into tablet share.

Android is doing well in the smartphone space because the carriers are promoting the handsets. For example, Verizon used to promote BlackBerries as their top smartphone. BlackBerries sold well as a result. Verizon threw BlackBerry down the staircase when Android handsets became available, and Android handsets did well at Verizon.

But now Verizon is promoting iPhone as their top smartphone. Android sales have leveled off at Verizon as a result. And just wait until the current crop of Android users come off-contract and can switch to iPhone without paying the huge early termination fee. Down the staircase you go, Android.

Things are different in the iPad and iPad clone market. The carriers couldn't care less about iPad because there's so little money in it for them. So what if a user pays a few bucks for monthly 3G connectivity? The carriers want you to buy big-minute voice plans, pay for data by the gigabyte, and to fork over sucker money for texting privileges.

So, without all that hype from the cell carriers, the iPad and its clones must fend for themselves on the open market. No carrier hype. No carrier lock-in. The best iPad or iPad clone wins in the battle royale that is the consumer electronics market. Right?

Wrong. iPad + iOS is just the tip of the ecosystem iceberg, to mix metaphors. iPad is just an empty frame for iOS. And iOS gets out of the way as quickly as possible. So users can go straight to their apps, media, and communication. And Apple is working hard on the app / media / communication technology infrastructure for the 21st century. And everyone knows it.
 
Honestly speaking I don't know the specs of the Xoom. But I do know the iPad 2 offers an incredible price for its specs. The Xoom, being very similarly priced to the Apple tablet, can't really put up a fight.

Between a known quality product (introduced by the iPad 1) with great specs and recognition as well as a gigantic app world and a Motorola tablet at the same price but less to offer to the table, counting in added marketing campaigns in favor of the iPad 2... it is clear what the customer wants and is reflected on sales.

Whether you are an Apple fanboy or not, one must recognize Apple's finesse and quality in the iPad 2 which other competitors quite frankly cannot reach.

On another note, I must emphasize it really is terrible planning from the Apple sales executives to not fully take advantage of their renowned success and contract other manufacturers in order to increase their production and therefore their revenue. It's ridiculous that in order to get my iPad 2 (a couple of months ago!), stores still didn't have enough stock and the online order expected 1-2 weeks delivery time. They are losing a significant amount of money this way, I guess not even themselves planned for the success their device has attracted, but still it seems to me they are not fully aware of the margin they have which is being wasted..
 
Worthless links.

We've proven many times around here that web browsing statistics bear little or no relationship to actual sales of any item.

For example: using such numbers, we would conclude that there are as many iPads out there as all the iPhones and iPod touches combined.

The reality is far, far different. While iPads account for 50% of all iOS browsing, they are only 1/8 of all iOS sales.

Your point still doesn't negate the fact that the iPad crushed the zoom in sales numbers. Get over it.
 
re aapl ipad crushing competitor tablets

its so obvious
for personal and work related resons i hope ipads crush blackberry tablets
so my IT department will issue ipad2-3 to us
 
Where's Capt. Obvious when you need him?

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What is a "Xoom"??

Hint:I rhymes with"ZUNE"
 
Not surprised, honestly i don't understand why anyone would even get an Android tablet, i say that having used a android device, and the experience isn't fluid like what you find on an iPad..

But i do think that the HP touchpad and blackberry playbook perform about the same as the iPad and IMO they provide a better multi tasking experience, but the downside is there aren't very many applications or games..
 
Android is doing well in the smartphone space because the carriers are promoting the handsets. For example, Verizon used to promote BlackBerries as their top smartphone. BlackBerries sold well as a result. Verizon threw BlackBerry down the staircase when Android handsets became available, and Android handsets did well at Verizon.

But now Verizon is promoting iPhone as their top smartphone. Android sales have leveled off at Verizon as a result. And just wait until the current crop of Android users come off-contract and can switch to iPhone without paying the huge early termination fee. Down the staircase you go, Android.

Things are different in the iPad and iPad clone market. The carriers couldn't care less about iPad because there's so little money in it for them. So what if a user pays a few bucks for monthly 3G connectivity? The carriers want you to buy big-minute voice plans, pay for data by the gigabyte, and to fork over sucker money for texting privileges.

So, without all that hype from the cell carriers, the iPad and its clones must fend for themselves on the open market. No carrier hype. No carrier lock-in. The best iPad or iPad clone wins in the battle royale that is the consumer electronics market. Right?

Wrong. iPad + iOS is just the tip of the ecosystem iceberg, to mix metaphors. iPad is just an empty frame for iOS. And iOS gets out of the way as quickly as possible. So users can go straight to their apps, media, and communication. And Apple is working hard on the app / media / communication technology infrastructure for the 21st century. And everyone knows it.

Excellent insight.Thanks!
 
further confirming we won't be seeing the iPad 3 this year.

I disagree. Apple might wanted to leap ahead of the competition even further, and if they're currently selling every iPad they make, they presumably won't have any iPad 2 inventory left over if they announce and release they iPad 3 within a few weeks of each other.
I don't think Apple's release cycle is often based upon selling as many of a generation as they can before moving on to the next - I think the iPad 2 would have been released much later if that was the case.
 
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There will be no iPad 3 this year. Get over it.
 
I was trying out the Motorola Xoom at a local shop just an hour ago for the first time. It felt pretty confusing to use and was actually noticeably "sluggish". Not a good first impression in my opinion.

I'm not surprised that the iPad is crushing the Xoom. It's obvious Apple put a lot more thought and research into their tablet, unlike Motorola who probably just raced to get this out after the sudden demand for the iPad mid last year.
 
Worthless links.

We've proven many times around here that web browsing statistics bear little or no relationship to actual sales of any item.

For example: using such numbers, we would conclude that there are as many iPads out there as all the iPhones and iPod touches combined.

The reality is far, far different. While iPads account for 50% of all iOS browsing, they are only 1/8 of all iOS sales.
So, are you saying that people are buying as many Android tabs as iPads, but just aren't using them for any online services? This begs the question, exactly what are all those millions of Android tabs being used for? If not for browsing and other online services, what is the point of having a tab? Are Android tablets nothing more than glorified Gameboys?
 
It's interesting how Google is unable to translate their smartphone share into tablet share.

there is a difference here. Google isn't advertising for their OS on various devices. They have left it up to the manufactures to advertise.
Motorola has done a terrible job with adverts. Other then around the week they debuted, I have never seen a Xoom ad.
I do see Galaxy Tab ads now that the 10.1 is out, but those are the first ads for them I have seen since about a month after the original tab debuted.
Also, same goes for the Playbook and the HP tablet. I only saw ads right before and after launch, but none after that.

Whereas with iPad and iPad2 (and iphone4) I still see ads, not as frequent, but they are still actively advertising 1.2 year old devices fairly heavily in a world that always move to the next best thing. Thats why apple is winning against Android. Has nothing to do with how good the tablets actually are but because of clever and consistent advertising.

Without reminders people have a fairly short memories, even fanboys!

Also, the whole stuck in the ecosystem thing is really big too. I would have a hard time justifying a move to any android device now because i purchased many apps over iTunes and that doesn't translate to the android app store.
 
"sluggish"

My first impression of the Xoom as well. I tried one in a store, and chalked up its balkiness to previous customers futzing it up. But enough others have mentioned its occasional sluggishness that it seems to be inherent in the design.

Pity. I'm a believer in competition truly improving the breed.
 
It doesn't seem to be killer feature. ;)

Flash is no longer a factor. A flash-less iPad is setting the standard and dominating, while a Flash-less iPhone on its own carries 28% share, while a Flash-less iOS the dominant mobile OS.

It's almost as if Flash was always a non-factor. In fact, it always *was* a non-factor.

I agree 100%. It cracks me up when every tablet commercial gloats about how it can do Flash. Whoopdy doo!
 
What's with the signatures showing up before comments?


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Pretty obvious this! There really is very VERY little reason to buy any other tablet than an iPad!
 
Your point still doesn't negate the fact that the iPad crushed the zoom in sales numbers. Get over it.

Get over what? Heck, I personally helped iPad sales by buying several for members of my family :)

So, are you saying that people are buying as many Android tabs as iPads, but just aren't using them for any online services?

No sir, I didn't say they're buying as many. I said we cannot tell from those stats.

I said that browser statistics reported by these companies (who are advertising their paid services with these titillating free reports) are demonstrably incorrect measures of device sales... usually hugely so.

Using such web stats, anyone could easily conclude that nobody is buying iPhones or iPods in comparison to iPads, when the truth is quite the opposite. Or we could claim that people are buying iPhones, but aren't using them for online services. Either conclusion is incorrect.

This begs the question, exactly what are all those millions of Android tabs being used for? If not for browsing and other online services, what is the point of having a tab? Are Android tablets nothing more than glorified Gameboys?

What I'm saying is, we have no idea how many there are.... at least, not by using browser stats alone.

Take the first link he gave, from a company called NetMarketshare. They say they collect stats from their own collection of cooperating websites which have a total of 160 million visitors a month. This is pretty common for these reports.

That number of visitors is peanuts. Any one of the top-ten websites has more than that. So who are these sites? Just four of the top fifty? Or just 40 of the top 1,000? Or maybe 160 of the least visited 10,000? We do not know.

So the point is, without knowing what sites they use, we cannot even conjecture whether there might be lots of tablets in the hands of, say, children who would never visit those reported locations.... but who could be perfectly happy using say, all the hugely popular kid's websites. (If you have kids, you know about these. Or maybe not, if your home computers don't have Flash.)

In short, perhaps we can use some other way to figure it all out. But these freebie reports are not the way, not by a long shot. I'm open to any other ideas, though.
 
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I think the point is, the analysis is an indicator, not a scientific measurement. And from that indicator, other-than-iPad devices are not even a blip on the radar. To add to it, since we only get sales in units "shipped" to retailers from other-than-iPad makers, there really is no way to know the true count of devices sold without manufacturer or retailer cooperation.

At the end of the day, there are no real threats to Apple's offerings, and likely won't ever be given the brilliance of how they have managed there business. Think about it. They took what once was a weakness from one segment ("nobody" bought Macs because the software support wasn't near as good as PC's) and turned it into a huge advantage with the iOS market.
 
If there is another iPad released this year I think it will be a lower end model with a low price point to entice a larger audience.

Why i am reading this everywhere??IpadHD,smaller iPad,iPhone 4S small.. If we were talking about some other company i would say ok its possible but we are talking about Apple here...They would never do that:confused::confused:
 
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