Apple's 'iPad Mini' to Strengthen Education Presence Alongside iBooks 3.0


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Original poster
Apr 12, 2001

Earlier this month, several sources indicated that Apple will focus on iBooks at its "iPad mini" media event tomorrow, with reports indicating that both personal and education consumption will be of key importance for Apple. Bloomberg Businessweek now profiles Apple's efforts to bring tablets into education, noting that education will indeed be an important theme of the iPad mini unveiling.
Beyond the school market of course, Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook will use the device to try to widen Apple's lead over Inc. and Google Inc. and fend off a more recent threat from Microsoft Corp. in the market for tablets, which NPD DisplaySearch predicts will more than double to $162 billion by 2017. Cook will unveil an iPad with a 7.85-inch screen diagonally, people familiar with its development said in August. The current iPad has a 9.7-inch screen.

Yet Apple executives plan to make a point of highlighting the iPad's educational capabilities at tomorrow's event, according to a person with knowledge of the planning. Little wonder. Education spending on information technology, including hardware, was about $19.7 billion in the 2010-2011 period, according to the Center for Digital Education.
The report notes that Apple has realigned its educational sales effort to focus on the iPad, recognizing that school budgets and a desire for more engaging technology are driving a shift in schools' purchasing decisions

Perhaps supporting the notion of enhanced educational offerings coming to the iPad and iPad mini this week, French site reported [Google translation] over the weekend on an iBookstore title showing up with compatibility for an unreleased iBooks 3.0. The Digital Reader later noted that at least half a dozen titles were showing up with the new compatibility requirement, noting that one developer working to create books using Apple's latest tools found that iBooks 3.0 appears set to provide compatibility with the latest EPUB 3 standard at a minimum.
Liz Castro connected me with another ebook developer who has been making ebooks for iBooks 3.0 for the past few days. He has been tweeting his progress and one thing he's already noticed is that iBooks 3.0 appears to offer more Epub3 support. The fixed layout spec in Epub 3 requires the latest version of iBooks, only Apple hasn't released it yet.
iBooks 2 was launched earlier this year with a heavy focus on support for new iBooks Textbooks, interactive digital textbooks intended to revolutionize education, starting with high school textbooks. With iBooks 3, it appears that Apple may be set to take its next steps toward improving that experience even further.

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macrumors regular
Feb 14, 2008
Why would anyone buy something in iBooks? You can only read them on iOS but you still get the same price point as on kindle which is on every tablet, pc or phone.

I aslo think this is failing hard for them, the major textbook they released (and the only one that made it to the german ibooks) never got any of the regular payed updates they promised. Besides the fact that it´s one chapter already was over a gig.

It´s to restricted by OS and by current Mobile Datastorage.

Finaly give me that new iMac. I need one, i could get an old one but i am not willing to pay a two year old price on it.


macrumors regular
Jun 22, 2010
Is another filetype enough to warrant a jump from 2.x to 3.0? When they went from 1.x to 2.0, they added an entire new style of ebook, capable of all sorts of tricks that eBooks can't really do. I'm just curious about what iBooks 3.0 would have in it to be able to call it a whole new version.

Also, have iPad textbooks been doing anything for the education market? Or have they flopped? I really haven't heard anything about them since they released, and it doesn't look like the selection has improved much since day 1.


macrumors G3
Jun 11, 2008
Los Angeles, CA
I'm not shocked to see 'education' getting mentioned with this event. I don't buy any talk that it is THE topic of mention but I do think that it will be a strong one over business etc. But not just education in the sense of schools. There's also just at home with games etc. A smaller sized iPad has an appeal both physically and price as a device for Junior so he can play his kiddie games on his own thing and stop using Mom or Dad's iPad. No parent is going to really be swayed by flashy games like Infinity Blade but show how they can play learning games and all that "tech is bad for kids" takes a hit. Another reason to buy and the holidays are on the horizon. As is 'time to make the budget for next year' for schools. So it's an education double hit.

Rumor has it that iBooks 3.0 might also include cbr/cbz support which will increase possibilities on the reading front. And some happy news in that direction will be good to dampen all the DOJ stuff. So that will get a mention.

Hopefully there's some news on the iTunes store front as well. Not just layout but pricing etc. It would be great to hear news that more studios are committing to Extras and its is now iOS compat for ipads and Apple TV, that all the missing back seasons of tv shows are being added, everything is being brought up to at least 720p with multiple language audio and subtitles and prices are going down across the board. And places like HBO are stopping this year after the season ends before we release it nonsense. THAT kind of stuff would really take a hit on Amazon, Google play and torrenting (if they could get global after first OTA in any country that would be a big kill on the last item as well)


macrumors 65816
Oct 3, 2010
North of England
I know it's relatively new, but as a university student (studying geology with planetary science), I can say that the textbook feature in iBooks is useless (for me anyway).

There are no serious textbooks on the iBooks store at all (at least none of the 25+ recommended texts for my course this year). Seems like just a gimmick at the present...


macrumors 65816
Apr 5, 2012
Adrift in a sea of possibilities
Doesn't Apple see how little sense it makes to buy anything in iBooks? Buy once, read on . . . iOS.

If I want to read anything on my Mac, I buy on Amazon and use their free kindle software. That automatically tells my iPhone, iPad, and PC at work what page I was on when I stopped reading . . .


macrumors 68030
Sep 22, 2009
Why would anyone buy something in iBooks? You can only read them on iOS but you still get the same price point as on kindle which is on every tablet, pc or phone. .
Maybe iBooks 3.0 will support a Mac Application too?


macrumors 603
IT in education is currently institutional buying. Some day education may drift back to family centric or civic organization centric, which will drastically lower the cost of it as well as greatly improve the efficacy. It's just an iPad, but it is also every textbook and learning method right in the hand of the student. That could be a thing.



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macrumors G5
Jul 16, 2002
If anyone buys it at that price point..............:p
At what price point? Apple hasn't announced any yet. Also no school or business that buys in bulk pays retail. Prices are negotiated, and often 20-40% below retail. Most companies think of Edu sales as a "loss leader," because students then go home and ask the parents for their own.


macrumors 68020
May 10, 2005
Shropshire, UK
Why would anyone buy something in iBooks? You can only read them on iOS but you still get the same price point as on kindle which is on every tablet, pc or phone....
Agree. Every time I come to buy a new e-book, I find myself wanting to buy it on iBooks to 'enjoy the Apple experience', but then common sense asks me why, when I can buy it from Amazon at the same price, still read it on my iPad but also be able to read it on my Kindle (or any other device with a Kindle app)?

Not everyone's got a Kindle of course, but you're still looking at the issue of: all other things being equal, why would you buy an ebook only readable on your iOS device when you could buy a version also readable on a raft of other devices? Is the iBooks reading experience really any better than the iOS Kindle app?

Sadly, the only iBooks I own are freebies, any e-books I've paid for paid for are from Amazon.


macrumors 65816
Apr 5, 2012
Adrift in a sea of possibilities
Rumor has it that iBooks 3.0 might also include cbr/cbz support which will increase possibilities on the reading front. And some happy news in that direction will be good to dampen all the DOJ stuff. So that will get a mention.
Okay, cool. But how the foxtrot do you get the files into the iPad? If I have a few dozen scanned comics in cbr/cbz format, will they create a conduit of sorts so I can get them into my iPad without repurchasing them? Man, I really hope so.

I tried ages ago when I bought my first gen iPod Touch. There was an app called 'Pull Lists' which started off buggy and fairly useless and went . . . nowhere. It stayed buggy and useless.
Sep 10, 2012
You know what ... the more I think about this iPad Mini the more I can see how useful it would be.

I love my "new" iPad and we have become quite close during the past few weeks since my iMac died; my iPad has been my only (apart from my iPhone) device.

However, as much as I love my iPad it is just too big for me to take out & about with me ... it is purely an "indoor device" with me.

But ... an iPad Mini would be a nice size for taking out & about.

The only thing is it would have to have a retina display otherwise I wouldn't consider it. I had to pass on the first two iPads as the text was too fuzzy for me. I now that millions got on well with it but I just didn't like it.

Roll on tomorrow!

And I hope we manage to get a few iMac rumours in before then!


macrumors 604
May 4, 2002
Go Vegan
I for one would be very happy if iBooks 3.0 allowed at least some compatibility to view 'iPad only' books on say an iPhone 5.

I created a book using iBooks Author, but it's only available on the iPad. :( Yes it may be a bit small to read on an iPhone, but I think it's doable. Especially since mine is mostly a picture book. I would at least like to have the option available, even if it needs to be enabled by the author. For example, the free 'Yellow Submarine' book works with iPads and iPhones. Why not give this option to iBooks Author users?


macrumors 6502a
Oct 9, 2007
I agree that I do not see Apple being able to sell textbooks in their ibook format. Too many people want the freedom of owning a physical textbook. With this ibooks thing you are stuck with Apple with little flexibility.

However I am literally studying Macroeconomics on my iPad this very semester. I bought a digital copy of my textbook from and it works great! Seems they designed their online ebook system to work well with the iPad. I really do enjoy it reading my material on the iPad. Ebooks have some nice features such as a search bar too. With course smart I still have flexibility as it will work on ANY web browser. The fact it works on the iPad is an unplanned bonus.

If anything apple would be wisest to buy out this course smart company. Or copy exactly what they are doing. They even have an offline system!


macrumors newbie
Oct 21, 2012
The screen is the key for the iPad mini. How could It compete against a device like the Kindle, without a reflective screen using something similar to e-ink. I think the mini is going to have a COLOR reflective screen.


macrumors 6502a
Jan 14, 2009
Maybe iBooks 3.0 will support a Mac Application too?
I agree with this. A major overhaul in iTunes may be the beginning of this all as well, since everyone already has iTunes on nearly every computer and a redesign would be needed for this to take effect.

Eddy Cue has been a major push behind the iPad, iBooks in schools, and he is also a major person behind iTunes. Makes total sense if he is trying to merge it all into one seamless experience.


macrumors 68000
Jun 23, 2003
So. Cal.
Obviously Apple wants to sell iPads. But many out there in education already have Macs. Unless Apple starts supporting iBooks on Mac OS X as well as iOS, I don't see iBooks taking off.

You can buy any of the other media content (videos, music) and use it on any device in the Apple ecosystem. Buy an iBook right from iTunes ON YOUR MAC, and you have no way to view it. Very poor strategy.

Buy a book from Amazon - read it on iPhone, iPad, Mac, a PC, a Kindle, an Android phone, Windows Phone, any web browser - even a >gasp< Blackberry!
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