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Apple's iPhone 16 Was the Best Selling Smartphone in Q1 2025
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The Steve Balmer interview after Steve dropped the iPhone on the world has become a cult classic. He absolutely dismissed it as too expensive and it did not have a physical keyboard so it wouldn’t be a good business device.
Can you provide us with the name of a phone that has “genuinely new, useful features” that Apple does not have.
Apple could, would, might fail any day now, right? How long has this meme been around? More than forty years now.
Like windows? 😂😂😂😂 I use windows daily at work and it’s no where as close to be as reliable as Mac. While Mac isn’t perfect it’s way better that windows.
I use Windows (10) for work, as well, and I can't tell any difference in reliability...Windows and MacOS are both stable and do what I ask them to do.
No idea about Windows 11. Wife has it on her Microsoft Surface, but doesn't say much about it.
Oh sure I can believe whst you say about people in the valley - ‘don’t get high on your own supply’ as drug dealers say (or so I’ve heard!).
And an abundance of caution is sensible as really what we have with Genai is a huge public alpha test.
But the wave is coming and it’s going to be exciting when it all gets to ‘1.0’.
And umm hopefully we all don’t lose our jobs. Which will be less exciting !
Windows 11 is far better than Windows 10...but, it's no Windows 7.
Windows 11 has been awesome in my case. Never any issues and super responsive on even Surface Laptop GoWindows 11 is far better than Windows 10...but, it's no Windows 7.
Agreed. I haven't had any issues at all so far. 11 has been rock solid.
That sounds like a work problem, which I run into as well and I'm an admin. I don't run into any issues on my personal Windows 11 machine.
...because of impending tariffs. I considered going ahead and upgrading myself, but I'm going to gamble and wait.
Just to be clear....Apple is not doomed in the least but.....Isn't Apple in the same position that Blackberry once was with evolving technologies like AI? Apple ignored AI and now they have egg on their face so to speak for their failures in the AI space. They demoed AI features last year for IOS 18 that STILL are not available in IOS and maybe not till 2026.
There is a lot going on in the AI space and its not just ChatGPT.
My fear is Apple is getting so far behind that they will never catch up.
For all the "doom" and "failed to innovate" talk, nothing has changed as Apple is still far and away dominating with the iPhone as usual.
Several interesting things can be inferred from these data:
1. There remains a big percentage of users who are concerned with price over all else.
2. There is an even bigger percentage of users who see the Pro models as better value.
3. The Pro Max outselling the Pro tells us either screen size or battery life are paramount to those spending the most.
4. The Pro outselling the Plus indicates that battery life is beating screen size, as a larger phone could be had for less money. There is of course more to it, such as the camera suite and ProMotion display, but it's interesting to see bigger battery outsell bigger display.
It will be interesting to see how the iPhone Air (2026) does by comparison to iPhone 16 Plus. It is definitely expected to do better based on the intensity of the tech media's coverage of this model's development. But it is likely to compromise on battery to achieve its size and weight goals. Even if that means it achieves the same battery life as iPhone 16, it will definitely be the lowest in terms of actual battery life across the lineup. The sales figures indicate battery life being possibly the single biggest driving factor of users choosing models.
1. There remains a big percentage of users who are concerned with price over all else.
2. There is an even bigger percentage of users who see the Pro models as better value.
3. The Pro Max outselling the Pro tells us either screen size or battery life are paramount to those spending the most.
4. The Pro outselling the Plus indicates that battery life is beating screen size, as a larger phone could be had for less money. There is of course more to it, such as the camera suite and ProMotion display, but it's interesting to see bigger battery outsell bigger display.
It will be interesting to see how the iPhone Air (2026) does by comparison to iPhone 16 Plus. It is definitely expected to do better based on the intensity of the tech media's coverage of this model's development. But it is likely to compromise on battery to achieve its size and weight goals. Even if that means it achieves the same battery life as iPhone 16, it will definitely be the lowest in terms of actual battery life across the lineup. The sales figures indicate battery life being possibly the single biggest driving factor of users choosing models.
I never said Apple is going to fail, that’s your straw man, not my point. What I actually said is that Apple faces a real challenge: consumers now expect flagship level performance in the base models, which means it’s harder to “wow” users with upgrades unless the features are genuinely meaningful.
I agree with you that Apple has a history of long term strength, no argument there. But that doesn’t change the reality: iterative upgrades feel less compelling now, especially for high end users who already have excellent devices.
This isn’t about doom. It’s about recognizing the plateau of innovation and what it takes to break through it.
Everyone’s an expert aren’t they? lol. The problem is windows can’t even play nice with its own software like office 365. Try opening and closing spread sheets all day and not having it crash at least once.
I said combined. Look again, the Pro and Pro Max combined sold twice as many units as the 16 and 16 Plus.
hold on there skippy...lets not get too carried away....
The iphone is a great device and has great worldwide sales.....but...
Have used numerous Windows laptops and find the business lines to be much better. However, Mac to me, still gives wayyy less headaches.
yeah but with screens getting larger Im glad i got the pro and not 16 regular as even the 17 regular will be 6.3"!
Lmao no. The thing is $1000 man ($930+tax), for $300 more you can just get a Pro Max with double the storage, bigger, better screen, better chipset, better cameras, same battery life. No wonder it sold like an iPhone mini lol. It's just straight up a bad deal and a bad phone.