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If it's anything like what Microsoft uses, there's an ultraviolet light that shines in your face. You won't see it, but the camera can pick up on it.
It's said to use infrared - which raises the question how it will work in the desert at > 37 deg Celsius...
 
In all of this leaking and rumoring about the 8 I have seen plenty about the face recognition feature, but nothing about how the phone will receive the face data. Is this going to have a separate recognition sensor hidden somewhere on the front of the phone, or will it simply use the front camera?
 
I know it will be an awesome announcement overall. I was just saying how all these little features would’ve made the announcement even better if we didn’t know them a month ahead.
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If it's anything like what Microsoft uses, there's an ultraviolet light that shines in your face. You won't see it, but the camera can pick up on it.
It's infrared, not ultraviolet.
 
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Will it therefore require a warning about skin cancer?

I expect not. Not all UV light is associated with cancer so careful selection of wavelength could avoid this. California would be the most likely to require inclusion of this language and I suspect Apple is aware enough to avoid developing tech that would require such notifications.
 
I know it will be an awesome announcement overall. I was just saying how all these little features would’ve made the announcement even better if we didn’t know them a month ahead.

True, but there are still going to be things we haven't seen or heard about I'm sure. It'll be all over soon haha.
 
Re: power usage. Reminds me that years back, Apple filed for patents on low power recognition of a face coming into view.

The basic idea was to slowly scan in low resolution for an orange blob (apparently humans are all shades of orange, not pink or brown or yellow) and when one appears, THEN wake up a higher resolution camera to actually attempt the recognition.

Pretty clever.
 
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"This is why Apple always waits until they have perfected something before adding it to the iPhone."

....just like the Maps app...
 
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Apple couldn't get Touch ID baked into the screen to work and they had to fall back on a face scanning system. They will of course sell "FaceID" as the greatest thing ever and pretend it's not a back-up plan they had no choice but to use.

And people will eat it up. How do I know this? Just by reading many of the comments here on Macrumor.

Apple's PR and Marketing is 2nd to none.
 
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Just like the HomePod leak that it would adapt sound automatically based on its surroundings, i'd say this is essentially confirmed. It's something very Apple
 
Let's wait and see when it's there. I want to see how this "Touch ID successor" works, with Sunglasses, Hats, Helmets , Skiing. etc.

Then we will know if it made life easier or more difficult.

Simple, don't ski and text. ;)
 
No they didn't. They JUST bought the finished product (FaceID) in February.

The company was called RealFace and they developed the tech and showed it off here.

And here is their website with more details archived in the Wayback Machine. Apple took it offline.

That's just a single piece of software. Apple has been working on Face ID for over three years, and has acquired not one but several companies for it, including an advanced module that uses mutiple IR sensors to render a 3D depiction of what's in front of it.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/17...ial-recognition-solution-for-at-least-3-years
 
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They didn't get anywhere, that's why the literally bought a finished product including SDK.

Do you really think Apple bought this company, in February, and then decided in the timespan of >1y to integrate that technology, and only that technology, into the next flagship iPhone? Where does Apple's hardware development come into this process - many pieces seem to be coming from PrimeSense, too - so it much be just luck they were able to throw these things together to create a new authentication system?

"Well crap, let's scrap these last few years of R&D, investment, and development into iOS related to facial identification and AI. We'll purchase and only utilize this other solution because, you know, they provide an SDK and we can't get ours to work" was probably not a conversation that was had this year...
 
This is really a smart feature. i am really amazed how much information we have got from this single homepod firmware.

Am I the only one who wants an option to mute all notifications when playing music or, even better, play the notification in between songs?
 
Pretty neat feature, but it's gonna feel weird knowing my iPhone is always watching me. Many apps tend to suppress notification sounds if you have their app open and vibrate lightly instead, but this seems to take it a step further if it's going to be used how I think it is.

Also, I wonder if Apple will implement other face tracking features similar to what Samsung do in their Samsung Galaxy phones with Smart Pause which briefly pauses videos when you're not looking at the device and resumes when you are and their Smart Stay and Smart Scroll features.

Yup and We'll likely see this technology on the watch soon too. Maybe not the Series 3, but likely the next model.

People may be uncomfortable with the idea of a camera watching them all the time, but the trade offs are worth it. I've been arguing for a camera on the watch for just this reason -- auto unlock, knowing when to keep the backlight on and turn it off, etc. if it can also take pictures, even better. And that's likely since adding LTE to the watch will only increase the need to incorporate all of the iPhone features as well.
 
I can't get the classic Steve Jobs line, "Bag O' Hurt" out of my mind.

This is like giving you a completely different TV remote control right before a show and not knowing what channel it's on.

I can see people driving off the road trying to simply unlock their iPhone when only 1 finger and hardly a glance would have sufficed. I cannot see how this is simpler than 1 finger, but I'll wait and see.

To me this is a feature in search of a need. Prediction: Touch ID will be back in the iPhone 9.
 
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