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So basically, Apple is once again bragging with decades old technology. 50 milliseconds is not impressive at all. Also, calling a quartz clock "temperature-controlled crystal oscillator" is the oldest trick in the marketing book.
 
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Apple's Kevin Lynch Explains Method Behind Apple Watch's Precise Timekeeping

hahahahahahahahaha it's a digital watch hahahahahahahaha

marketing at its best.
indeed, the funny part is how this pseudo-magazine plays along with it, apple's employee just explained how NTP works, nothing to do with apple, even chinese $25 smartwatches have the same accuracy.
 
I'd rather hear an explanation of why the MacPro and most of Apple's laptops are technologically outdated and when they will be updated.

I'm going to try to be as brief as possible, because what I'm going to say is more or less just my opinion/observations.

I used to work in a computer store, and we sold a lot of HP Elitebooks. Back then I noticed the hardware in those computers was often similar to Apples offerings in some ways that might explain why Apple doesn't rush to put the latest stuff in their computers.

I think the reason is reliability.

Apple wants to make the most reliable computers they can (within reason) and so they choose to use hardware that has been proven to be reliable. That seems to me what the idea is behind Elitebooks as well.
 
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This is the bit that's interesting to me. I find that my iPhone becomes nearly useless in very low temperatures. When I go skiing or backpacking and it's 10 degrees Fahrenheit or lower, even with 100% charge, within an hour or two the battery goes dead and that's with it inside my coat where there's body heat. I learned a long time ago that even a relatively cheap Timex Ironman watch will fare better than my iPhone in these conditions.

Does anyone with an apple watch know how long the battery lasts in very low temps?

Sad that knowing that it's 10:25:55.005 and not 10:25:55.065 is considered more important than longer battery life in the cold.
 
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Kevin Lynch was a really bad hire for Apple. Over many years at different companies bad things always happen with the product he was working on. They tend to dry up and go away. How many use ColdFusion on their web servers? How many remember how he killed most every product when Macromedia brought him on? And then Adobe. Ugh. I truly fear for the Apple Watch just because of him. I'll of course buy v2 and try to forget he is in charge.
Many large companies (AT&T, Home Depot, Lowes,etc.) various colleges and government agencies, intranets, etc. use ColdFusion. Since the launch of Ralio/Lucee (free CFML engine for running ColdFusion applications) and the launch of powerful SFML CMS tools like Mura, ColdFusion is gaining popularity. It had been a great J2EE-based rapid application development environment for years but suffered adoption due to the cost of the ColdFusion server from Adobe (go figure - expensive Adobe software) and a lack of a good CMS/framework akin to Wordpress for self-managed sites. Now if Adobe would get their act together and release FrameMaker for the Mac again...

I'm going to try to be as brief as possible, because what I'm going to say is more or less just my opinion/observations.

I used to work in a computer store, and we sold a lot of HP Elitebooks. Back then I noticed the hardware in those computers was often similar to Apples offerings in some ways that might explain why Apple doesn't rush to put the latest stuff in their computers.

I think the reason is reliability.

Apple wants to make the most reliable computers they can (within reason) and so they choose to use hardware that has been proven to be reliable. That seems to me what the idea is behind Elitebooks as well.
Apple isn't about technology - it is about lifestyle and improving your lifestyle through the use of technology. Generally when Apple does innovate on the technology side (e.g. x64 A series chips) it is for a specific reason. Bleeding-edge technology (hardware or software) is often buggy, suffers interoperability issues, and results in poor/limited adoption, which means it isn't contributing positively to people's lifestyle. Lets face it, Apple could have had NFC payments years ago - but it took the time to work with banks, merchants, and the card networks to create a holistic solution that would actually see adoption and usefulness.
 
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All I know in the Army Signal Corp we used Cesium Clocks to clock data. Everyone in my company would use that display to set their watches! That clock was solid and will keep time long after we all turn to dust!
 
So you are catching a plane at 10 pm after a long day of work, your Apple Watch is the perfect time keeper, you check the watch, oh! the battery died. How accurate is that? As others have said, who really cares about how precise the watch is in milliseconds. A watch needs to be there when you need it most. Smartwatches in general are marginal in this aspect.
 
It's so precise that their digital watch face does not even show seconds (and no way to turn it on)!!!!
That's something that drives me nuts!

There are more Faces that don't have a seconds option than those that do, and you can't even add seconds as a complication. So anyone that uses one of the more advanced faces can typically be up to 59 seconds off, depending on when they look at it.
 
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First off, you can get an Apple Watch with no fanfare for $349, that is that accurate. The others you mention, I'm guessing would set you back at least ten times that much if not considerably more (and you'd have to find somewhere to get them, deciding where on the reputability vs. cost scale you feel comfortable). Second, it's what Apple is really good at: taking advanced tech and making it simple enough to use that non-techies will want to use it. Apple didn't invent smart phones, or touch screens, but they made them work together in a consumer product in a way that was extremely compelling.

(Apple also did consumers a huge service by breaking the carrier's death grip on the cellphone experience - before Apple, the phone was plastered with the carrier name and got updated ... maybe once, if they found a problem too big to ignore. You weren't the customer, Verizon/AT&T/etc was, and you got what they felt like "giving" you - remember $3 midi ringtones? With Apple, now, I'm the customer for the phone and Apple has to make _me_ happy. Better all around, unless you're a carrier CEO.)

Firstly, as other have mentioned, there is nothing so advanced or special about the underlying NTP tech -- most mid to large-size tech firms have several of these installed, as do almost all telecomm companies, as it's very important to keep clocks synchronized -- or Apple's implementation of it. In fact you could get very accurate stratum servers for mere thousands of dollars for your entire enterprise. As Adams who is quoted in the article says Apple Watch is just as accurate as any iPhone [or any smartphone] -- meaning not very accurate as the article makes it out to be. You are just as well off with your iPhone [or any other smartphone]. Secondly, Adams then ends by saying that Apple Watch is an impressive product -- which speaks more about Apple's product development than the actual underlying tech.

Sure, I'm not denying that Apple hasn't change the wireless industry, but their main contribution is in marketing and distribution, not in the underlying tech. Having been in the industry almost two decades now, it's simply laughable how some of you are trying to repackage this as a new breakthrough in tech or product development. (the same feature has also been in your Mac OS for well over a decade now).
 
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Apple isn't about technology - it is about lifestyle and improving your lifestyle through the use of technology. Generally when Apple does innovate on the technology side (e.g. x64 A series chips) it is for a specific reason. Bleeding-edge technology (hardware or software) is often buggy, suffers interoperability issues, and results in poor/limited adoption, which means it isn't contributing positively to people's lifestyle. Lets face it, Apple could have had NFC payments years ago - but it took the time to work with banks, merchants, and the card networks to create a holistic solution that would actually see adoption and usefulness.

Thank you for putting it into better words than I could. :)
 
Where did anyone claim that it is? You did not accurately read the story and are making incorrect inferences.

Hey, I think I figured out where MacRumors sourced the mistake about Watches being within microseconds of Stratum Zero devices from: This UK Telegraph article.

My guess is the Apple watch and iPhone must stay on the same time and the iPhone is just as accurate.

In the source article, Kevin Lynch comments that the iPhone is four times less accurate.

Confused about the crystal that is inside the Watch for timekeeping. If it's calibrated based on GPS and bluetooth from the phone, what's the point for the crystal?

As someone else noted, it would chew up the battery to constantly update its time from the NTP server via the host iPhone. Therefore it's good to have as accurate a crystal as possible, so that time syncs will be required less often. Which brings up:

I love the way an inaccurate device is now said to be accurate as it gets it's time constantly corrected from some outside source. Funny. If it constantly needs an accurate clock to "beam" a signal to it, then it's not much of an accurate timepiece is it?

True, any clock can be accurate if it's constantly updating from a good outside source!

It would be more informative to know how accurate a watch stayed when it could NOT contact the NTP servers, like when on a long flight, or deep in the back country, or even simply away from its host phone.

For example, it'd be more impressive to hear, "Even at places where people are not allowed to take their phones into work with them, all the watches will still be in perfect sync at the end of a ten hour work day, even without contacting an NTP server during that offline period."
 
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I've never had a microwave that keeps decent time!)

Power line connected products like microwaves, digital alarm clocks and old AC motor driven clocks should be extremely accurate in the US. The 60Hz line frequency is synced to the same atomic standards as the Apple Watch.
 
True, any clock can be accurate if it's constantly updating from a good outside source!

It would be more informative to know how accurate a watch stayed when it could NOT contact the NTP servers, like when on a long flight, or deep in the back country, or even simply away from its host phone.

For example, it'd be more impressive to hear, "Even at places where people are not allowed to take their phones into work with them, all the watches will still be in perfect sync at the end of a ten hour work day, even without contacting an NTP server during that offline period."

Exactly and I would like to announce to the world that "I" am an extremely accurate timekeeping device.
I look at the screen which displays the atomic time, then shout out loud.

"20, 21, 22, 23, 24"

Everyone is stunned and amazed at how accurate a time keeper I am :)

You have to laugh at how apple twists things to make them sound good!
 
So you are catching a plane at 10 pm after a long day of work, your Apple Watch is the perfect time keeper, you check the watch, oh! the battery died. How accurate is that? As others have said, who really cares about how precise the watch is in milliseconds. A watch needs to be there when you need it most. Smartwatches in general are marginal in this aspect.

Or when you have a mechanical watch and you forget to set it to the correct time zone your in. The apple watch has you covered there it does it auto magically.

there are benefits to each device one is not better than the other. This need for the apple watch to be better than all other watches is kinda funny.

If i am dressed up i am not wearing my apple watch. I am wearing my polished up Omega.
 
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