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Originally posted by allpar
First, I think you meant "two percentage points" not "2%." An increase of 2% would be from 5.1% to, um, about 5.1%.

Second, not surprising since we were all waiting for the G5 to buy the big machines!

Seeing as it was already quoted as a percentage, it is totally appropriate for him to say up 2%. It can get confusing, though.
 
This doesn't make to much sense to me. With the large sales of the g5 should the laptop sales be lower?

G5 sales aren't in direct competition with laptop sales as there are quite a few people who *need* a laptop for portability
 
Those execs...

I just hope those execs has as close an eye on quality issues and service as they do on the bottom line. :rolleyes:

I thought about upgrading my Ti to a new Al Book but I've seen too many posts about quality issues. I'll hold onto the Ti for a while longer...
 
Originally posted by dho
This doesn't make to much sense to me. With the large sales of the g5 should the laptop sales be lower?

There might be few people that might have delayed iBook or PowerBook purchases to get a G5 desktop instead, but that number is probably relatively small. Besides, you could also say that a lot of people realized that G5 PowerBooks weren't imminent so that actually pushed PowerBook sales higher since people figured they may as well buy the PowerBook now and enjoy it, rather than wait a year or more for the G5s.
 
Originally posted by rhpenguin
I am a Linux geek who just switched to the iBook... This is certantly exciting.

Apple is moving forward in the market!

Shouldn't you be changing that sig to "Macs are for coding" then ;)

Even a year after switching it sometimes hits me how miraculous an achievement Apple pulled off. They made a user-friendly Unix, which every other vendor (including every Linux vendor) has by and large failed to do. Can't wait to see Panther. With Expose and the new iTunes-like Finder, OS X will be the clear champ in terms of ease of use.
 
regarding "unix geeks"

This is all good news I think..
our Network admin recently purchased a 15in powerbook to sit next to his linux workstation.. then a few weeks later bought a Dual G4 tower to replace his workstation.
and
what with more stories coming out about schools purchasing large quantities of Apple laptops. all sounds good.
 
I'd really like a better break-down of market shares to begin with. For instance, wouldnt homes buy pc's more often than macs since they break down faster? So could you factor the "age" of the computer into the market share, instead of shear sales?
 
Originally posted by Mudbug
that's very good news indeed!

So - who got replaced in the #5 spot?

my guess:

1. Dell
2. HP
3. IBM
4. Toshiba
5. Apple
6. Sony
7. Gateway

for reference, Apple was 8th in Q4 2000. Now if they can only put the G5 into the current formfactor, I can see Apple pushing for the #3 spot. Next 5 years should see some solid market growth for the Mac platform.
 
Maybe this will make them see that if they keep updating their products on a regular basis, more people would buy them. Or maybe it will make them see that if they hold out long enough, people will buy whatever they finally update.
 
Originally posted by lmalave
Shouldn't you be changing that sig to "Macs are for coding" then ;)

Yes, but it would be messing with a classic quote.. And i gotta give the Linux the props..

I have Yellow Dog on here too, and i use it strictly for coding.. OS X is for work and play which i do the most of. I just end up getting frustrated when i code becuse i suck at it and cant type or accomplish what i want to do.
 
Originally posted by dongmin
my guess:

1. Dell
2. HP
3. IBM
4. Toshiba
5. Apple
6. Sony
7. Gateway

for reference, Apple was 8th in Q4 2000. Now if they can only put the G5 into the current formfactor, I can see Apple pushing for the #3 spot. Next 5 years should see some solid market growth for the Mac platform.

That is an astounding and historically significant statement.

Also if UNIX admins are buying Macs (G4 and G5) then multiuser workstations are next. Welcome to the machine. Referrals matter.

Rocketman
 
Re: that survey

Originally posted by aaronvegh
i assume you're referencing the recent survey that showed this high IE usage. That's based on User Agent settings in browsers. Who knows how accurate that is? I can make Safari look like MSIE 6 right now if I want. And I would, if some nasty Web sites demanded IE. Ergo, these numbers are invalid.

What percentage of users actually know how to do that? Of that, what percentage actually do that? I'd say it's insignificant...

I don't know how to do that with Safari. I could have used it today at the Dell website. They block safari (I'm sure it's not the only one) from accessing parts of their customer service website. I got a new monitor at work and wanted to reset my X configuration (this is a linux box) for the machine for the new monitor. I needed to verify the amount of video ram on the machine, so I went to the dell website on my iBook and was denied access to part of their system because my OS and browser were "unsupported". That's absolutely pathetic.
 
agreed

Originally posted by lmalave
Besides, you could also say that a lot of people realized that G5 PowerBooks weren't imminent so that actually pushed PowerBook sales higher since people figured they may as well buy the PowerBook now and enjoy it, rather than wait a year or more for the G5s.

I totally agree.. I wanted a laptop and I can't wait until next year when the G5 Powerbooks come out. My new15" G4 AL is wonderful and will last me a long time until the G5 Powerbook goes through a few revisions.
 
Re: Re: that survey

Originally posted by orb
What percentage of users actually know how to do that? Of that, what percentage actually do that? I'd say it's insignificant...

I don't know how to do that with Safari. I could have used it today at the Dell website. They block safari (I'm sure it's not the only one) from accessing parts of their customer service website. I got a new monitor at work and wanted to reset my X configuration (this is a linux box) for the machine for the new monitor. I needed to verify the amount of video ram on the machine, so I went to the dell website on my iBook and was denied access to part of their system because my OS and browser were "unsupported". That's absolutely pathetic.

Anyway I just checked at http://www.doctor-html.com/agent_stats/

and I only see ~84% on IE, many of whom are macs. Where did this 98% number come from?
 
Am I the only one who is wondering what the hell this has to do with 'MacRumors'? Or 'Thinking Secret'. I don't think this is breaking news at all and it seems to be presented in a lack of real inside news. Anyone can obtain this knowledge publically, if you know when and where to look for it.

Also, I'm new to these new mac publications (took some years off, bought pc, then switched back). But can someone tell me What the hell is 'Think Secret' mean? How the heck do you 'Think Secret'? And is it true the person who writes the thinking secret secrets is only a 14 year old boy who is still in high school?

Also, what happened to www.macosrumors.com? Back in the day it used to be ok. I realized that the author of that site started drinking heavily and doing large quantities of ellicite drugs by his early twenties and would update the news very high and messed up and eventyually lost credibility. But now the site is not even accessible!

so what has happened in my absense? we have raging drug addict who is so ripped on drugs he hasnt noticed his site went down in weeks and a 13 year old boy who titles his website after a phrase that sounds so juviniel it isnt even funny.... or maybe i just didnt sleep enough last night!

whatever.

www.appleturns.com NOW THAT IS A GOOD SITE!

DOGMIN! what up broda! Long time no see

#Punky Brewster
 
Originally posted by dho
This doesn't make to much sense to me. With the large sales of the g5 should the laptop sales be lower?

This is proof that releasing a product x won't effect sales of product y like everybody seems to suggest everytime Apple is rumoured to be releasing something.

"Apple won't release x, not when its so close to the release of the G5. It would effect sales"

C R A P.
 
This is proof that releasing a product x won't effect sales of product y like everybody seems to suggest everytime Apple is rumoured to be releasing something.

"Apple won't release x, not when its so close to the release of the G5. It would effect sales"

C R A P.

Um, guys.....laptop sales and desktop sales are to different market segments who are looking for different things from different products. Think about it.
 
Originally posted by kristianm
Come on, 10% are way to high. Just check the latest browser ratings, IE for windows has something like 98%. Please try to moderate yourself.

But I think 10% would be a great place for apple to be.


Apple's installed users base is between 10 and 11 percent. There used to be a link at Ambitiouslemon.com w/stats on market share and installed user base but the site is gone. By now the starts are probably 8+ months old but I don't think they would have changed too much.


Lethal
 
Just wait until Apple releases

this...
 

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