They didn’t, they just discontinued the D300 and changed the prices.1. They have updated the Mac Pro at least once with (IIRC) a GPU upgrade.
They didn’t, they just discontinued the D300 and changed the prices.1. They have updated the Mac Pro at least once with (IIRC) a GPU upgrade.
2012 i7 quad core
Thanks, I was already corrected on that mistake.They didn’t, they just discontinued the D300 and changed the prices.
Sorry, didn’t see that.Thanks, I was already corrected on that mistake.
Why does it matter to you how or where I spend my money? If you think 4 years is an acceptable refresh model (possibly, no guarantee just yet), then by all means, continue to wait. I don’t think that is reasonable so I purchased something else. Simple as that. I like apple products, but I surely don’t worship them.Then why are you here? Regretting that decision?
Not surprised.
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No it's not.
Other than the Mac mini and Mac Pro (both of which are (finally) being updated), Apple's hardware is solidly "in the herd" with other OEMs, and in some metrics (WiFi speed, SSD Speed come to mind), are generally ahead of the pack.
There's not going to be an October event. It's the 17th now, if there was going to be an event, the press invites would have already been sent out by now.
I absolutely love macOS and would never consider switching to Windows or Linux but I have to say it's very hard to stay a loyal customer of Apple desktop hardware. Hackintosh sounds great but every update is a gamble, don't tell me it's not, I've been running one for 4.5 years, did every update and upgrade possible and spent hours fixing stuff. Sure it runs macOS but it's nowhere near a proper Mac experience. Sad times.
My basic premise is the same as my arguments, which you didn’t follow:While you're arguments is fine, your basic premise is flawed.
If *YOU* were buying a new machine TODAY, would you really not mind paying full price for 4 year old technology?
If that's the case, I've got a beautiful 50" plasma TV I'll sell you for only $5000.
See... real people like to spend their hard-earned money on current technology. THAT is why the 4 year old Mac Mini is a problem.
My basic premise is the same as my arguments, which you didn’t follow:
1. Most casual computer users (shopping, browsing, photos, music, Facebook) don’t know, don’t care, and/or aren’t affected by technology that’s 4 years old. A dual-core i5 does those things perfectly fine. Try to understand that. Your outrage doesn’t apply to those users.
2. Since this is true, those users are getting a perfectly fine computer for $499. You obviously care about the most current CPUs etc, so you think this is a bad deal. But unlike you, I think $499 for a Mini is fine. That’s about the same price as a Dell tower, also with an i5 in it, btw. And if that’s Adell comes with a little more RAM, or a faster-spinning hard drive, fine. Grandma will never know it, just as she’s never going to know how fast a sports car can go if she drove one.
So I think the flawed premise is yours: “real” people like to spend their hard earned money on a computer that suits their needs, not necessarily on the sexiest components. They. Don’t. Care. For casual users looking for an entry level desktop, the Mini fits the bill just fine. You really believe grandma is thinking, “If only that Mac Mini had a darn quad core processor! And a faster platter speed!” ??
Don’t get me wrong; an update is overdue. I personally do care about faster CPUs because my use case needs lots of brute force math. I think the users who should be annoyed are the pros who have been left behind by the aging Mac Pro. Those people do tend to need the latest, most powerful tech, and they’re not getting it in that device. As of today, they must either buy an iMac Pro (serious kit, btw) or leave the macOS ecosystem. And that’s a shame.
I'm so glad I was wrong. All I have to do is hope that they don't hike the prices of the new iPads like they've done with the iPhones.
Yes, I'm getting ready to do the same.
I made a conscientious decision to make 2018 thru 2019 be a T&E phase for transitioning away from the Apple ecosystem.
With Microsoft's latest offerings, I may go total windows and Android. Or less likely some combination of Linux, Windows, and Android. Basically, the set up that I had before switching entirely to Apple for work and home back in 2005.
How is this progress?
The only thing holding me back from tearing the band aid completely off is an emotional connection to the brand that it was between 2000 and 2012.
That’s what my tattoo says! LolIt's all about perspective.
Well, now I have no idea what to recommend. I don't feel like Apple gives Macs the love it used to. Apple has to be careful that it doesn't begin a 10-year transition away from macOS to Windows simply because the nerds have been alienated.
Will no due respect, that's a crock.
100% of it.
Not even worthy of a rebuttal; I've got better things to do.
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Will no due respect, that's a crock.
100% of it.
Not even worthy of a rebuttal; I've got better things to do.
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On the other hand, is $1000 an insane price for a device almost half of people use for more than five hours every day? And if the lifecycle for a smartphone is three years, that’s less than a dollar a day for the most used item in people’s lives except for a house and clothes (and you don’t wear the same clothes every day). Your phone bill probably costs at least twice that with far less outrage, in spite of the fact that cellular usage is a fraction of what one does with a smartphone. I really wouldn’t use your lucky $60 expenditure as a standard against which to judge prices.Haha man agreed, the new iPhones are so ridiculously overpriced. Honestly a joke.
I was lucky to get a deal on my iPhone 7 for $60 and no contract through a friend who works for a carrier. So seeing the latest iPhones starting at $1000 is absolute madness.
If everyone could just boycott buying brand new iPhones for 3 measly months we could take the power back and force them sell for a fair market price.
But I sense these prices will bite them in the ass in the long run. You have new customers everyday, kids are always being born, so the teenagers getting their first phone will be hesitant with these dumb prices from Apple. So they buy something else and never get into the Apple ecosystem, thus setting themselves up as a lifelong customer with another brand.
I do like apple products but their prices aren't competitive enough for me to be loyal, iPhone is the only apple product I own. And that's on thin ice with the dumb **** they're doing with the iPhone. I don't like face ID, I want my home button. Headphone jack was annoying but not a huge deal (still annoying though) and the costs are just laughable.
They didn’t, they just discontinued the D300 and changed the prices.
I'm so glad I was wrong. All I have to do is hope that they don't hike the prices of the new iPads like they've done with the iPhones.
Well, repeating unfounded arguments doesn't make them more valid, does it ?
There always seems to be one tireless, mass-posting defender of all things Apple in every main page discussion thread - are you guys taking turns to spread the workload, and do you have a party line toeing award or something ?
I said the same thing. But our team waited a year+ for MacPro updates, nada. AMD? We can't do complex 3D animation with AMD like we can NVIDIA. So the 6 of us just ordered fully decked out custom built PC's for about half the cost of our maxed out 2014 trash cans. Sorry Apple, you lost us.
I did run a Hackintosh with NVIDIA for years and yes, I know what you mean!!
It is Apple, unfortunately they will hike the prices on the new iPad Pros and Macs. They raised the price of the 2017 iPPs by $50 a few months in.
I have the money for new Apple tech, but for iDevices, not paying full price again after my experiences.
Out of sheer curiosity, I priced out a Dell XPS tower and for around $2300, you can get a VERY well equipped computer, with 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD, AND 4 expansion slots. Dell charges $750 for a 2TB SSD, Apple charges $1,400... WHY?? It's the same thing! For 32GB of RAM Dell charges $200... Apple charges $600; is the more and more degraded MacOS ecosphere worth triple? NO.
I understand. If they did that, I’d wait until retailers mark them down drastically, which is something I will do anyway since I spent that much on the 2017 and sadly no longer have it.A minor jump in price I can live with but I have visions of them raising the Pro models to $1200 - $1300 minimum. If they did something like that, I'd be out. It would be the last reason I need to ditch the Apple ecosystem all together.