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I think that's a bit much. Did it "stink of desperation" that they turned on, say, StandBy without asking people if they wanted it on? What about CarPlay playing enabled by default? It's a big new feature, and honestly it's a little surprising to me that it wasn't enabled to begin with on 18.1. Most users aren't going to go through settings to see what's new. My guess is they were being conservative with 18.1 and 18.2, but given they see it as part of the OS moving forward, it makes sense to default to it being on. That's not to say that if someone has intentionally turned it off the a software update should turn it back on, but I think people's distrust/dislike of AI in general is leading people to assume ill intentions here.

Again my suspicion isn't that it's some great big conspiracy because not enough people are using Apple Intelligence, but rather a bug related to the fact that 18.3 was the version that "turned it on" by default for everyone. Still not a good look for Apple, but I don't see a reason we should assume malfeasance.
They didn't try and sell a whole generation of phone based on StandBy.

They don't have to tell shareholders that StandBy is used by % percent of the customer base to convince them everything is great.

Completely different playing field. As I said earlier, I use 'useful' AI briefly on a daily basis, and it can be used for good, but by god Apples implementation, maybe even interpretation of what might be useful to its users, has been poor. Having said that, maybe the majority of Apples users are teenagers these days.
 
They didn't try and sell a whole generation of phone based on StandBy.

They don't have to tell shareholders that StandBy is used by % percent of the customer base to convince them everything is great.

Completely different playing field. As I said earlier, I use 'useful' AI briefly on a daily basis, and it can be used for good, but by god Apples implementation, maybe even interpretation of what might be useful to its users, has been poor. Having said that, maybe the majority of Apples users are teenagers these days.
I use AI constantly too, so much so that my Action Button launches ChatGPT. So I get it. But I also don't think Apple is trying to be ChatGPT - whether or not that turns into a good decision or not we'll see.

I just think there's a stereotype on MacRumors that anything Apple does that a poster doesn't like is because "beancounter Tim Cook is being evil and all he cares about is money" and that is silly.

Maybe I am naive, but "bug in a point update to the version of iOS that turned Apple Intelligence on by default accidentally turned Apple Intelligence on for those who turned it off" makes a lot more sense than "Tim Cook wanted to juice Apple Intelligence install numbers and so forced Apple engineers to turn Apple Intelligence on for those who had turned it off".
 
I just think there's a stereotype on MacRumors that anything Apple does that a poster doesn't like is because "beancounter Tim Cook is being evil and all he cares about is money" and that is silly.
Maybe I am naive

I’m gonna stop way short of calling you naïve because you’re very thoughtful and intelligent as indicated by so many of your posts

I do think, however, that Apple Intelligence is really really really important to them and I don’t think it’s an accident that they’re enabling it over and over again

I’ll stop hammering this topic, but I maintain that the default from the OS vendor should be ensuring that existing system preferences that have been set a certain way stay that way

Lucky for me, since I’m mostly uninterested in AI, I only have one device they can even do it!
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I’m gonna stop way short of calling you naïve because you’re very thoughtful and intelligent as indicated by so many of your posts

I do think, however, that Apple Intelligence is really really really important to them and I don’t think it’s an accident that they’re enabling it over and over again

I’ll stop hammering this topic, but I maintain that the default from the OS vendor should be ensuring that existing system preferences that have been set a certain way stay that way

Lucky for me, since I’m mostly uninterested in AI, I only have one device they can even do it!
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Good point that Apple Intelligence is really important to them. I still lean incompetence vs. malice, but it is worth watching.

That said, if Apple releases a point update that turns Apple Intelligence back on a week or two before the next shareholder call or product announcement, and Tim comes out and says "Apple Intelligence is enabled on 95% of eligible devices" then I'll happily join team conspiracy theory!
 
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Good point that Apple Intelligence is really important to them. I still lean incompetence vs. malice, but it is worth watching.

That said, if Apple releases a point update that turns Apple Intelligence back on a week or two before the next shareholder call or product announcement, and Tim comes out and says "Apple Intelligence is enabled on 95% of eligible devices" then I'll happily join team conspiracy theory!

Noted!

I know where I’m putting my money
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(Hoping to be wrong honestly as I’d like apple intelligence to get so good that people actually do want to use it and are actively choosing to)
 
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That said, if Apple releases a point update that turns Apple Intelligence back on a week or two before the next shareholder call or product announcement, and Tim comes out and says "Apple Intelligence is enabled on 95% of eligible devices" then I'll happily join team conspiracy theory!
Here you go:


Said Cook: “we did see that the markets where we had rolled out Apple Intelligence that the year over year performance on the iPhone 16 family was stronger than those where Apple Intelligence was not available. In terms of the features that people are using, they're using all of the ones that I'd referenced (…)

And so, we see all of those being used.”



Sure, you could argue, as a matter of technically, that he didn’t give an exact percentage figure or that they did not turn it on a week or two before the call. They did it a week or two after the earning call. Makes perfect business sense though: First, raise anticipation. Then “deliver”.

Welcome to the team.
 
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Here you go - and welcome to the team:


As a matter of technically, they did not turn it on a week or two before the call - they did it a week or two after the earning call.

Makes perfect business sense though: Announce. Anticipate. Then “deliver”.

Not sure how that's related. Saying "iPhone sold better in countries where Apple Intelligence was available, so we expect sales to rebound in places where it isn't available yet once it is available" doesn't have anything to do with turning it on for people in places where it is available.

FWIW I am not sure I buy Apple's spin there - I seriously doubt AI features are making a meaningful difference in most people's purchasing decisions. While I don't doubt sales are higher in places where Apple Intelligence is available, correlation does not imply causation.
 
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Not sure how that's related
The narrative is crystal clear:

AI feature will drives sales for their keystone product - if and when become available and used:

“we did see better results in the markets that we had rolled out in than markets we hadn't rolled out in”



“I think you can conclude from that that there are compelling reasons to upgrade. And in the markets where we had launched Apple Intelligence, they outperformed the markets that we did not.”



And that argument eventually needs to be backed up by activations and/or usage numbers (in viee of expansion to other markets).

You won’t be arguing “It’s available so we sold more - even though people dob’t use orhaven’t even enabled it” with a straight face. That would be akin to selling snake oil.
 
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The narrative is crystal clear:

AI feature will drives sales for their keystone product - if and when become available and used.

Availability and the argument needs to be backed up by activations and/or usage numbers.

You won’t be arguing “It’s available so we sold more - even though people dob’t use orhaven’t even enabled it” with a straight face.
Again, I don't particularly buy Apple's argument there, but the key is going to be phone sales, not Apple Intelligence usage. If the sales go up in China and the EU when Apple Intelligence is released in those areas, then Apple will have something to say. If sales don't go up when it's released, whether or not it's activated on x% of phones in the US isn't going to matter. Of course they want people to be using it, but once it's available, their argument that "sales will rebound in those markets once it is available" isn't really applicable anymore.

This is a side note, I also highly suspect that the percentage of users turning it off is much, much lower than most people on MacRumors would believe, which is another reason I believe this issue was a bug and not an intentional "turn it back on" edict from Tim or Craig. Most people don't go into settings to turn features off.

I also suspect more people are using it than most people on MacRumors would believe. Totally anecdotal, but all the "normal" people I know who have access to Apple Intelligence use it daily, including two people in their 70s. Believe it or not, the number one use case among my friends/family using it is Image Playground. Small sample size here, but they love it. Would have never guessed that in a million years - I have zero use case for that.
 
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On both iPhone and iPad, I got the "hello" upgrade screen, complete with the Apple Intelligence (BETA) "you will use it and like it" screen and turned itself back on. On Mac, it didn't show the upgrade screen and it stayed off.

For the people saying Apple has been doing this with Siri for years: Yes, and it's annoying. But they still ask if you want to enable Siri, even if they still beg you to enable Siri with the "Finish Setting up Your iPhone!!!!!!" notification if you decline. Even on this upgrade, after the mandatory Apple Intelligence (BETA) screen, it asked if I wanted to enable Siri--which I declined.
 
I realize this will be countered with "but what company/product is better!?" ... and it's an accurate and fair point

That said, I still have to say that not respecting user preferences makes Apple products objectively worse and less enjoyable.

Is it a huge thing? No

But it's part of a broader swath of niggles, bugs, issues, irritations and the like that further sand away the smooth edges of pleasure that at one time got each of us to be fans in the first place
 
I wonder if BT stays "off" (if you turned it off) if you are also not participating in FindMy on that device?
Don’t think so.
Although turning off Bluetooth would be good from a privacy perspective - and have moderate power savings.

Then again: when did they make Bluetooth undisableable in control center?
I’d have to look it up - but pretty much about the time they started selling AirTags, if I remember correctly.

Edit: OK, seems the control center behaviour was changed with iOS 11
 
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Don’t think so.
Although turning off Bluetooth would be good from a privacy perspective - and have moderate power savings.

Then again: when did they make Bluetooth undisableable in control center?
I’d have to look it up - but pretty much about the time they started selling AirTags, if I remember correctly.
Huh? I just turned off Bluetooth in control center. And then turned it back on. Am I missing something?
 
Huh? I just turned off Bluetooth in control center. And then turned it back on. Am I missing something?
Yes. Apple is yet again (anticompetitively ;) ) preferencing their own accessories:

“Open Control Center on your iPhone or iPod touch, or iPad and tap the Bluetooth button. The icon dims and your device disconnects from any accessory it's connected to, except for Apple Watch, Instant Hotspot, Apple Pencil, and Continuity features, like Handoff.”

https://support.apple.com/en-us/102412
 
Yes. Apple is yet again (anticompetitively ;) ) preferencing their own accessories:

“Open Control Center on your iPhone or iPod touch, or iPad and tap the Bluetooth button. The icon dims and your device disconnects from any accessory it's connected to, except for Apple Watch, Instant Hotspot, Apple Pencil, and Continuity features, like Handoff.”

https://support.apple.com/en-us/102412
Learn something new every day. I’ll happily agree with you that if you turn off Bluetooth in control center it should turn completely turn it off.
 
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