The point is that every other laptop on planet earth in this price range has at least 16 GB of RAM or more. There is no defending this. It’s Apple greed of the highest order.
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Have you looked at RAM prices? There is no discernible price difference for Apple to use 16 gb vice 8. Apple could buy 16 gb of RAM for $15, meaning their cost to move from 8 gb to 16 gb is probably $8.
I am not defending anyone. I am asking what not "pro" in my professional work on 8GB of RAM?
It is not $8, it is $192. Resulting from the income reduction from losing the $200 RAM upgrade sale. It is still a financial decision to maximize profit, I’m just pointing out the magnitude of Apple’s decision.
You can do that work on a toaster. That's not a workflow that requires a Pro laptop. 8 GB is not Pro. That is the point.
Just because Apple put a sticker that says “Pro” next to the nameplate doesn’t make the hardware any more Professional. It’s just a sales gimmick for gullible customers. That is the point.
If 8GB is insufficient, then it doesn’t matter what the sticker on the nameplate says.
No, the point is Apple needs to stop putting 8 GB of RAM in machines that are in this price range. There is no argument here.
Absolutely, but this close to an imminent M4 launch. You would get serious M3 discounts arriving quickly after to move stock.
Accessing additional discounts is my point.
I can't see anyone has suggested that. I'm not sure what you are trying to argue. That is, unless you are saying that a "Pro" machine is needed to do professional work, and the fact you can achieve your professional work on an 8GB "Pro" demonstrates that 8GB is reasonable for a "Pro" machine? Did you get a "Pro" iPhone specifically to make any work-related calls?
How about the fact you could do that on a Chromebook or any base model Mac? That’s not a “pro” required work.
I have an old MacBook Pro 13 from early 2015, and that base model has 8 GB Ram.
That was over 9 years ago.
That Apple still does this in 2024 and have the stomach to call it a “Pro” it’s just total greed.
Apple should be ashamed.
This is false. It's also myopic to focus on one spec and ignore everything else that plays a part in price--but regardless, if you're referring to the $1600 - $1800 price range of 8GB M3 Macbook Pros, there are non-Apple 8GB laptops in the same price range or slightly more or slightly less:
- Lenovo $1850 (sale price)
Lenovo ThinkPad P16 Gen 2 (16″ Intel) | Power-packed mobile workstation | 21FACTO1WWUS1
ThinkPad P16 Gen 2 (16” Intel) mobile workstation gives you on-the-go power & performance. Includes choice of 14th Gen Intel® Core™ HX-Series processors or 13th Gen Intel® Core™ HX-processors with Intel vPro® & optional NVIDIA® discrete graphics.
www.lenovo.com
- Dell $1470
Dell Precision 3591 Workstation
Shop the Dell Precision 3591 15" Workstation with Intel core ultra processors & up to NVIDIA RTX 2000 Ada professional graphics.
www.dell.com
(Dell also has a special rugged series that costs upwards of $3000 and comes with 8GB.)
All the examples also come with inferior processors and less storage than Apple's offering.
Black is/was there but member sale over now..grabbed the black although rather have silver lol
That’s why they are discounted.
Every year there is an upgrade, every years there are discounts.
If you know the actual machine is right for you and you don’t have FOMO, you get the discounted one and save money.
Every device from iPad to Mac Mini to Macbook is now more or less the same thing in a different box. Must have become fairly cheap for Apple to make them.
The fact that you need to claim writing prosessional reports is hilarious. I can do the same thing on an oldschool blackberry. And it’s not even my job. Writing “professional” reports isn’t pro nor professional. It’s just writing a report lol.
The pace is afoot for even-smaller (≤2nm), power-sipping processors across the industry and Cupertino "will not be denied". Global per-capita energy consumption needs reversing ASAP and those players providing those low-energy/high-performance products will have the market-edge for that environment. No time for any computer/processor company to be resting on its laurels.
The base M3 Macbook Pro 14 should have been given the same RAM modules as the M3 Pro model e.g.
M3 Pro - 18 GB (3 x 6 GB RAM modules)
Base M3 - 12 GB (2 x 6 GB RAM modules)
Why they decided to give it the same 8 GB RAM as the Macbook Air is probably due to maximise profits and upsell to the M3 Pro chip models as we all know they love doing this.
M3 Pro - 18 GB (3 x 6 GB RAM modules)
Base M3 - 12 GB (2 x 6 GB RAM modules)
Why they decided to give it the same 8 GB RAM as the Macbook Air is probably due to maximise profits and upsell to the M3 Pro chip models as we all know they love doing this.
I was kind of thinking the same thing. If we get a Mac mini with M4 and it comes with 12GB RAM as standard, even with a 256GB SSD if it started at $699 I would seriously entertain getting one to replace my iMac 4K as I already have a Magic Keyboard and Trackpad so all I'd need to do is get a good monitor and I'd be set to replace it.
Keeping my fingers crossed! 🤞
They sell the 8 gb “pro” machines to bulk purchasers who demand a machine with “pro” in the name.
Not everything is about regular, retail purchasers. Apple sells several markets, and we almost never consider that on these forms.