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Apple's Mac Shipments Down in Q3 2017 Amid Continuing PC Market Decline
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I just upgraded my mid-2012 rMBP to a new 2017 model. I wouldn't have if it weren't for the battery, which was dying. Apple decided to gift me a new system for $200, so I couldn't say No to that. But other than the battery, the system was running just fine, and there was nothing in the new systems which was so compelling that I felt I had to upgrade.
But with sales down, inventory should be up, and that could mean that prices should be coming down some. I'd like to see the 13 inch MBPs have a great sale over the holidays, if not sooner.
But with sales down, inventory should be up, and that could mean that prices should be coming down some. I'd like to see the 13 inch MBPs have a great sale over the holidays, if not sooner.
100% agree, I certainly take issue with the 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD in the 13" Models, my rMBP from 2013 has that and was $500 cheaper when I purchased. Apple really needs to evaluate its line up and pricing.
I have zero issue paying more, but when I do I expect to get more, not the same.
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How did you get the new system for $200?
I really want to upgrade my 2011 mbp but unfortunately the current prices are a total ripoff.
As for PCs - buying an branded off the shelf pc isn’t worth it. You get better value by building a PC yourself.
As for PCs - buying an branded off the shelf pc isn’t worth it. You get better value by building a PC yourself.
Apple had a program not long ago for the mid-2012s which had dying batteries. They happened to be out of parts, so they were giving people new systems instead until they could rebuild their parts supply up. I just had to pay the equivalent of a new battery. The program has been over for a while now, but the threads dealing with it are still around here. Mine was a 2017 with i7, 16GB RAM, and a 256GB SSD, in silver.
I'm just wondering who bought 4.6 million Macs in the last 3 months despite all their recent flaws. That's all.
Still 1 million less than they used to. So a lot of people having to, because the old one doesn’t cut it any more?
This is really gets more interesting considering that Black Friday sale is just around the corner. I used to remember when people lined up that limited cheapo PC laptop at Walmart. Last year people are no longer interested on those piece of junk. This to show that laptops and desktops computers are not that popular anymore. Almost everything can be on smatphones and tablets. The only reason why I still open my 27” iMac is because of Photoshop and Lightroom and I’m just a photography hobbyist. Eventually this task can easily be done on tablets soon.
Yup. I was really surprised Apple did this. It's been rare for them to replace an entire system (or product, like iPods) like this. I am NOT complaining. The new system is terrific. (15 inch, not 13.)Shame the 2013 model didn't have that problem...
I know of three missed sales of Mac Minis, due to their OLD innards.
But Tim doesn't want to lose the sale of one iMac nor MBP to a Mac Mini. But because of that, three missed mac sales total, because these people did NOT buy an iMac nor MBP.
But keep on turning your back on the Mac, Tim.
But Tim doesn't want to lose the sale of one iMac nor MBP to a Mac Mini. But because of that, three missed mac sales total, because these people did NOT buy an iMac nor MBP.
But keep on turning your back on the Mac, Tim.
Yep. As others have said... these charts only talk about retail pre-built machines.
We know the home-built market is a whole other beast.
But I'd be curious to know how component sales stack up to these retail PC numbers.
According to these charts... there were 67 million computers sold last quarter that likely had an Intel processor inside. But how many processors did Intel sell directly to home-builders like me? Through Newegg, Amazon, etc? Is it 5 million? 20 million?
Or how many Ryzen processors were sold since March? Or NVidia GPUs sold in the last year?
Another discussion point: these components allow you to build amazing desktop workstations or gaming PCs.
But most computers sold today are laptops, right?
So there's clearly a disconnect between the home-built desktop CPU/GPU/motherboard market.... and the retail "mostly laptop" market. It really is two separate markets with two different use-cases.
For instance... as amazing as a Threadripper CPU is... it doesn't help someone if they need a portable laptop.
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I'm holding out with my 2.3Ghz Quad Mac Mini's for an updated model with at least a quadcore. With the announced new 8th gen CPU's I'm really looking for a quad to hex core now. I'm in the market for at least two for home use and more at work.
I was at a corporate meeting yesterday where various different areas around the table were all calling for updated Mac Mini's for various purposes. In almost every case they were running older quad core mini's due to the performance and interchangeable parts, and holding out for suitable replacements. It's pretty crazy to be holding out for this long when the average PC turnover in this environment is every 3 years. We're just lucky they've been reliable.
No an iMac or a laptop isn't suitable for headless systems and an expensive Mac Pro is overkill. I can see Nuc's in the future and a move away from MacOS when there simply isn't the appropriate hardware to buy!
The envy series is also much better. I have a mac but I got a 15" envy that's aluminum, fanless, 7th gen i7, 640 iris pro, 1tb ssd, 12gb memory, 4k screen. Memory and ssd are upgradable. So far it's a very well built thin and light laptop at under 1000.00. A mbp even close to it is 2500 and still less ssd and memory. I once would not have owned an hp but it's a whole new ballpark. It boots up in a few seconds, I did a clean windows install without the hp crap.
Have built windows box's since the 80's and this is the 2nd windows laptop I have owned. Again, whole new ballpark. Was looking at spectre's but like the aluminum envy's and the price.
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Naaaaah, I think Apple should just make a single unit of each Mac and price them at a few billion each. Then, report massive volume drops but gigantinormous profit gains when certain people here sell their entire bloodline into slavery because they MUST have the latest from Apple.
The rest of us can proudly chime in with "...but who has the most profitable computers." And so on.
Just saying, I'm available for adoption.
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But if they said Mac sales increased the numbers would be credible, right?
Lucky for you. I was trying to wait it out until Coffee Lake i5s (so it can be quad core). But nope. My mid 2012 rMBP died. So I'm forced to buy a new one.
Oh well, at least I get a fancy new touchbar!
If you need a new computer right now, you have no choice. If you want a Mac that is. Also, the 2015 Mac Book Pro is still available for purchase on Apple's website. It would be nice to see a breakdown of every model being sold.You can say how bad the new Macbooks are... you won't be alone.
But clearly someone bought 4,613,000 Macintosh computers in the last 3 months... and I'd imagine most of them were laptops. (but I doubt many of them were old 2015 refurbs)
So are people purposely buying these terrible computers?
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I've been reading about DRAM shortages for over 10 years. What are these damn idiots doing? Build another manufacturing plant, idiots.