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Apple's Mac Shipments Increase in Q2 2018 as PC Market Sees First Growth in 6 Years [Updated]
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I took it up with you. If you don’t know what your posting stay out of the topic.
No surprises here. Apple is telling its fans that iPad is a perfect replacement for a laptop. It appears that many people believe in that (and for some it is a reasonable replacement). The sad part is that despite all the hype about the Macs, Apple's PC market share increase is the last two decades is rather insignificant. Macs remain a niche product.
You make absolutely no sense ou get called out on it, you don’t explain why your adding figures together, blame another poster, feign ignorance then play the victim.
Another Apple suxx narrative that doesn’t amount to anything more than an incoherent mess.
Great addition to the thread.
Which implies those who buy Macs do so more for macOS rather than the hardware itself.
You are mixing up profit with turnover!
For your first example: If you sold 10 machines that cost $100,000 each to make, then it will cost you $1 million to make them all, and since you never declared any consumer price, we can't work out what profit would be made.
For your second example: If you sold 1 million machines that cost you $10 each to make, then it will cost you $10 million to make them all, but again because no consumer price is mentioned, we can't work out any profit. Same if they only cost $5 to produce.....
This why I am not an economist.
As I have noted, in Q1 2018 HP had to sell 270% more PCs than Apple sold Macs to make 27% more profit. It was even worse in Q4 2017 for HP in terms of units sold versus profit compared to Apple.
So clearly Apple's strategy is working for them in terms of making money and I doubt reducing price would spur sales because history shows Apple sells Macs due to macOS and not the hardware itself.
Just three more percent to go and Macs will be as relevant to worldwide PC sales as Windows Phone was in the worldwide mobile market. In total quarterly sales they would have to sell an additional 5 million Macs to match just Nokia's sales in 1Q 2015.
Kind of brings into focus why satisfying Mac users isn't a huge concern for Apple anymore. Even if they killed off the product line and every Mac user jumped ship exchanging their Macs and iPhones for Windows and Android it would barely register a blip. Heck they sell about as many watches as Macs these days.
Kind of sad. I remember when Apple was the nearly undisputed king of home, and educational computing.
Kind of brings into focus why satisfying Mac users isn't a huge concern for Apple anymore. Even if they killed off the product line and every Mac user jumped ship exchanging their Macs and iPhones for Windows and Android it would barely register a blip. Heck they sell about as many watches as Macs these days.
Kind of sad. I remember when Apple was the nearly undisputed king of home, and educational computing.
Can't wait for the new Lenovo P52 to get configurable options.
So much better than the trash Apple is putting out now days. Congrats on hitting 32GB of ram 6+ years after Thinkpads were able to do that (you can do 64GB ECC or 128GB Standard now).
I miss Apple Computer. RIP.
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-p/ThinkPad-P52/p/22WS2WPWP52
So much better than the trash Apple is putting out now days. Congrats on hitting 32GB of ram 6+ years after Thinkpads were able to do that (you can do 64GB ECC or 128GB Standard now).
I miss Apple Computer. RIP.
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-p/ThinkPad-P52/p/22WS2WPWP52
While the revenues are a shadow of what iOS brings in, Mac is still a Fortune 500 company (maybe even 400) on it's own.
This forum focuses on the negative, but there is still a fair bit of positive to be had for Apple and the Mac which is why they have not - and will not - kill it.
hopefully all the people who keep pushing iPads and iPhones down our throats (Tim Cook first)
by saying that the PC is dying will stop saying this nonsense
people want to work looking at bigger screens and with faster expandable/upgradable computers
not iPad and iPhones with tiny screens
by saying that the PC is dying will stop saying this nonsense
people want to work looking at bigger screens and with faster expandable/upgradable computers
not iPad and iPhones with tiny screens
No the comps keyboards just crap out all by themselves.
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Wasn't it Jobs himself who said we are in the post PC era.
Let's see. For 2017 sources report that the Macs accounted for... $25.850 Billion which would slot the Mac division in at number... 424 on the list.
Well played. Bravo. I cede the point to you.
Probably, thought now its only the Macbook Pro that is ok currently, which is extremely expensive much because of features nobody asked for very few prefer. Touch Bar, the slim fancy keyboard, the only USB-C ports. I have not read a single thread or seen a single you tube review telling that those features made their professional life better. If you are going to slap out 3-7k $ for a laptop, you should be able to choose Nvidia cards over a touchbar...and the Macbook pro is now 2 years old ? Its still dongle hell, the industry hasn't adopted - but apple are stubborn as always. But yeah, it's the only thing they got going currently in the Mac lineup, I agree.
Per Apple's own statements, laptops make up 80% of all Mac sales with the current generation MacBook Pros being the most popular laptop model sold. Desktops make up the remaining 20% with iMacs over 90% of that, then Mac Pros and the Mac Mini coming in last (both of the latter in the low single digits).
Making the iMac around a 1.1 billion dollar rounding error then. We’re rounding to a trillion dollars. Anything less than that = 0
Then why on earth are we only being offered MacBook Pros and iMacs ? Where is my Mac Pro ?
A laptop will never replace my workstation. That doesn't mean I wouldn't like to upgrade my ageing and failing MacBook Air. Sadly, MacBook Pro 15 is too big/heavy for me, MacBook Pro 13 is too limited again (no 32GB RAM option), plus I don't like the Touch Bar nor the butterfly keyboard. Summing up, I don't even live in USA to justify overpaying the Apple Tax for something that is not good enough for me. I guess it's yet another year staying with what I have, while dreaming that Apple will one day build what I need and want.
So what? I never get the argument by Apple fans consider about revenue. Apple makes decent revenue, that is good. But what does that have to do with end users?
If you actually wanted a Mac Pro you would surely know they’re coming in 2019.
I think the “where’s my Mac Pro” phrase is quickly becoming the “are we there yet?” equivalent on Macrumours.
You have to look at these numbers over a longer period of times.
Lets take a look at Dell:
Q2 2011: 10.57 millions
Q2 2012: 9.63 millions
Q2 2013: 8.97 millions
Q2 2014: 10.08 millions
Q2 2015: 9.49 millions
Q2 2016: 9.42 milions
Q2 2017: 9.56 millions
Q2 2018: 10.46 millions (Gartner)
I am pretty sure if you look at Lenovo, HP and Apple you will see pretty much the same lack of growth from all the vendors.