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Boom. Beauty and brawn. Every nanometer is accounted for in this remarkable work of man-made design. The materials and the way they are carefully crafted and sculpted into sensuous yet masculine lines suggests a profound level of power and boldness. Which also allows me to experience great works of art like Diablo, Mass Effect, GTA V.

That thing is ugly. Sorry completely missed the mark with that one. Looks like something that was designed back in 2007.
 
Pedestrian law ruined the modern car designs. Other than higher hood line and upright nose, I think the regulation is responsible for busy front end and bland rear design.

That's what I believe too. It's why you never see a wild 'concept car' look like the concept car once it hits the road, because then they have to abide with laws and regulations.
 
Yes car makers are behind and lacking progress but so is Apple... Releasing iPhones and iPad with only 16 Gb of space in 2014-2015 is really behind the times and so is releasing an iPhone with 500 mb to 1 gig of ram. So it cuts both ways.
What makes you think every phone sold needs more than 16 GB? Like it or not, most people don't use their phones for much more than texting, email, some web browsing, and the occasional phone call. Those people don't (and will not ever) need more than 16 GB. Same goes for RAM, with the added issue of power consumption going up as you add more!

Apple isn't behind on this, you are! You're falling victim to competitors marketing specs in place of value.
 
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I could say the exact same thing about the computer and electronics industry. Apple's designs have hit a trough too.

I don't know. There isn't much more you can do to a computer or car. I mean, what design could they make the a MacBook or iMac? All they can really do is add colors. There's only so much you can do to a thin rectangular prism with ports, keyboard, and a screen. Same with Automobiles. Unless a car becomes something else than 4 wheels, an interior cab, and windows there's nothing much more you can do to a car design. Most companies saved their most luxurious and cooler designs for super/luxury cars anyway.
 
I also think car designers are lazy. I picked up a 2016 Mazda6 a month ago and I do enjoy it. However, look at the rear ends of some cars and SUVs. They all look very similar. Just lazy. I don't know what's wrong with Toyota to add a big plastic open mouth at the bottom of their Corolla and Camry.

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The reason for this is not that the designers are uncreative, but much rather that the potential customers are extremely conservative regarding their cars. Once a car design deviates too much from what is considered standard, it's basically ignored (or laughed at). Cars are expensive, and many men are very insecure about whether their car is expressing their masculinity appropriately. Very unfortunately, many car purchases are made by men who apparently are very specific about what a girl's car looks like and what a man's car looks like. It's silly, yes, but I think that's one of the reasons why car design evolves so slowly.
 
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OMG. You beat me to the punch. Newson, like everyone else, can have an opinion about car design. But when you design the Ford 021C, you don't have a lot of room to talk about design. Although from 1999, this thing looks like something a 6 year old drew with crayons. I personally think he's wrong about today's automotive design. There are numerous beautifully designed cars on the road today.

The 021C did exactly what it was intended to do. Jay Mays the head designer at Ford had just come on board and he found a lack of inspiration in the design team. He hired Newson to do a car, secretly, that would then be presented to the team to get them to "think different". I will also say that I truly love the 021C in that it disregards most of the stupid stuff we find in car design and did quite a bit of alternate thinking. I actually like the way it looks for a lot of reasons, mostly that it is much more utilitarian and not trying to be macho or sexy which is stupid for a transportation tool such as a car. The swivel seats are a great idea. The trunk drawer also good, but in practice would need some refinement. I believe the interior was designed to be hosed out when it got dirty - brilliant. Just keep in mind what the car was for - it is only a design exercise, not a prototype for production.

Newson tends to design from a basis of anger. When he see things that anger him design wise, he get inspired to do something about it. I think Jobs and Ive were/are the same way. The knew everyone "hated their cell phones", I.E. anger, and they did something about it. I think Apple, Ive and Newson are getting ready to do something about cars.
 
I'm worried that Ive thinks a Bentley is a good looking car. The Apple Watch looks a lot like the Bentley and the original iPhone. They are in love with rounded corner rectangles. It's really not hard to imagine what an Apple Car might look like. The lines will all flow very nicely but it'll be ugly as can be. It will be an Apple Watch Just like that piece of crap Ford 021C but rounder.

Don't get me wrong, Apple computers are nicely designed and look decent but there's nothing special about the designs. Flat as possible rounded rectangles, that's all it is. They look good because every other computer manufacturer really does make complete crap from a design standpoint.

Would like to see your idea of a "special design" computer, one that is currently being sold on the consumer market.
 
What makes you think every phone sold needs more than 16 GB? Like it or not, most people don't use their phones for much more than texting, email, some web browsing, and the occasional phone call. Those people don't (and will not ever) need more than 16 GB. Same goes for RAM, with the added issue of power consumption going up as you add more!

Apple isn't behind on this, you are! You're falling victim to competitors marketing specs in place of value.

Taking tons of photos and shooting lots of HD video........ oh and installing tons of games.. More RAM does not mean worst power consumption either.
 



The Wall Street Journal has published an in-depth profile of industrial designer Marc Newson, a longtime friend of Apple design chief Jonathan Ive who joined the Cupertino-based company in September 2014. The interview touches upon a number of topics, ranging from Newson's creative process and design philosophies to his favorite artists and fashion designers.

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Apple designers Marc Newson (left) and Jonathan Ive (right) via Vanity Fair

Just months after reports claimed Apple is actively researching and developing an electric and possibly self-driving vehicle, Newson added fuel to those rumors by referring to the automotive industry as one of his design pet-peeves. The designer said that while cars used to encapsulate "everything that was good about progress," the industry is now "at the bottom of a trough."Newson's comments certainly do not imply that Apple is working on a vehicle, but it is clear that multiple executives at the Cupertino-based company are car enthusiasts. Apple's SVP of Internet Software and Services Eddy Cue joined Ferrari's Board of Directors in November 2012, while Ive has owned several luxury vehicles ranging from Aston Martins and Fiats to Bentleys and Land Rovers.

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Jonathan Ive's previous Aston Martin DB9 supercar

The New Yorker also reflected on how Newson and Ive are "car guys" in February:It was reported in February that Apple has hundreds of employees, including former Tesla, Ford and GM engineers, working on an electric vehicle at a top-secret research lab possibly located in the Sunnyvale area. The much-rumored initiative, known internally as "Project Titan," likely remains in the early stages of research and development, with Bloomberg reporting that Apple hopes to begin production in 2020.

Article Link: Apple's Marc Newson Believes Automotive Design is Lacking Progress
 
Stop it. It's not funny anymore.

Every freaking thread:
"Herp derp, but does it bend?"
"Hurr Durr, you're bending it wrong!"
"Hopefully it doesn't bend! Amirite guys? You know, like the iPhone 6 did? Are you getting my extremely subtle reference? ...Guys?"

It might seem annoying but it's suggestive of something much more appalling and that is myth of Apple's industrial design, or the lack thereof. Apple really isn't great at aesthetics nor building robust designs that can withstand the elements. First, Apple suggested, nay, commanded us to believe 3.5 inches is the perfect screen size for an Internet-connected mobile device, and boy did the Apple groupthink buy into it. Until Apple decided 4 inches is ideal. Loved seeing everyone backpedal when the iPhone 5 was announced. But then last year Apple released the iPhone 6 at 4.7 and 5.5 inches. Not only did apologists work overtime that day rationalizing the new 4.7 inches, but they now had to explain why it's marvelous that Apple gave us a CHOICE between two screen sizes when for years they declared that only one was perfect for all.

If 4.7 and 5.5 inches are indeed perfect (currently) and if Ive is such a design genius and if Jobs was such a Renaissance man, why didn't Apple start with the iPhone 6? Then of course there is the matter of the ugly antenna bands and protruding camera ring.

I could seriously go on and dissect nearly all of Apple's product line but for my last example I'll use the Apple Watch. WHERE DO I EVEN BEGIN WITH THIS MONSTROSITY? Never mind that it's absolutely every bit as ugly as the iPhone 6 and John Gruber, the level of craftsmanship does not reflect the marketing materials. Many users are complaining about scratches and dings despite Apple's special and magical cold forging process. Unlike Android-based smartwatches. Those are built like tanks to withstand day-to-day use. Apple's 316L steel is about as hard as a stick of butter.

There's lots more to ridicule about the Apple Watch but my favorite flaw that makes me weep with joy and laughter every time a user encounters this is the back plate coming off. Scratches and dings are one thing—they're just cosmetic flaws—but having the heart rate sensor/charging plate lop off because the GLUE used was of Apple legendary quality, that's gold. About $17,000 worth.

"If it isn't an iPhone, it isn't an iPhone." Thank God for that.
 
Gut reaction is that I don't want Apple to get in the automotive industry. But I said the same thing when the Apple Watch rumors started and I ended up buying the Space Black Link Bracelet and I'm loving it. But I'm still skeptical of the car.
 
Unless a car becomes something else than 4 wheels, an interior cab, and windows there's nothing much more you can do to a car design.
Really? Think 4 wheels, each with its own electric motor, and each independently steerable and able to adjust height. Combined with autonomous driving you can have awesome off road capabilities and the ability to easily park in the city with inches to spare both front and back. Don't think that will lead to new designs? Think again.
 
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Would like to see your idea of a "special design" computer, one that is currently being sold on the consumer market.

I have one:

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And as for car's.

This is a cool futuristic design:

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but is totally illegal for the road! It's a racetrack car only.

But then we have a futuristic looking Ferrari that is fully road legal:

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Modern day car design is anything but in a trough......
 
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This is rich coming from the man who designed one of the blandest watches in existence.

Certainly, most modern cars are ugly. I suspect this is in large part due to modern day regulations.

Cars that are truly beautiful were made a hundred years ago. Classic cars are in a different league to modern ones. It's sad that we've lost that beauty.

I like some modern cars: the Jaguar XK, the Beetle, the Mini, the Morgan. I love the Ferrari Testarossa of the 80s. The Ford used in Supernatural.

Sadly, I'm pretty sure that an Apple Car will have insipid looks. It will be minimalist and characterless. Oh for the days when houses, music and cars were beautiful.

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Stop it. It's not funny anymore.

Every freaking thread:
"Herp derp, but does it bend?"
"Hurr Durr, you're bending it wrong!"
"Hopefully it doesn't bend! Amirite guys? You know, like the iPhone 6 did? Are you getting my extremely subtle reference? ...Guys?"

Calm down.
 
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I do wonder if he's aware of funny little issues like:
  • Crash regulations
  • Aerodynamics and their impact on vehicle design/looks
  • Human ergonomics
Ive and his crew have done some crap work on the OS, putting style over function. If you look at cutting edge British design, you'll actually see a lot of that, which may be a harbinger if he keeps hiring friends/brits.

Obviously, I'm wary yet still intrigued. Could be something clearly awesome, or it could be Apple backing up the car to jump the shark.
 
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Would like to see your idea of a "special design" computer, one that is currently being sold on the consumer market.
I think you didn't read my entire post. So I'll shorten it.
... every other computer manufacturer really does make complete crap from a design standpoint.
 
Aston Martin are the worlds laziest designers. Their cars have looked almost identical for ages.
New designs come out for Toyota, Honda, Nissan and Mazda every few years. None of them are particularly interesting. And they all look alike.

Aston Martin on the other hand is iconic, stunning, and unique (probably thanks to James Bond). There is no mistaking an Aston Martin when you see one.
 
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