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I wonder if that "market share" numbers are Q2 shipments or the whole user base percentages.

Don't wonder - "market share" refers to shipments. "User base" is much harder to guesstimate.

Look at http://www.apple.com/macosx/upgrade/requirements.html - many PowerPC G3 systems aren't even supported by OX 10.4. Do you include these in the "user base" or not?

"Marketshare" numbers reflect what people are buying today, not history. It doesn't matter how long Apple computers were useful in the '90s - today, they're going obsolete at the same rate as the PCs. Apple is making sure of that - each version of OSX has tighter hardware requirements that push older systems into the "unsupported" category.

Since Apple has a hardware/software monopoly - this makes perfect sense. Add features to the software that the older hardware can't support. You don't get to sell an OSX upgrade license - you get to sell a new Apple! Rejoice!!
 
Great news for Apple, progress is on a upward swing. Nothing scientific, but after 5 years on a local technology board for a public school, I had the experience today of showing my iPhone to a few members..... If anyone has had the opportunity to do this you know what my experience was.... Pure Amazement. They are purchasing some iMacs to create podcasts. Previously, they were everything Dell and nothing else. The move is incremental but momentum is on Apple's side. It is truly an exciting time!!! Can't wait for the new iMac and an ultra-light notebook!!!!
 
Did anyone notice Xray in Leopard???

That Xray feature in leopard alone is enough for me to switch from windows .... buy a PowerMac .... and Leopard!!! DAMN.... and Leopard comes with the Message Passing Interface.... so make that 5 PowerMacs connected together with an Xserve Raid under my bed.
 
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Good numbers. That should boost stock price tomorrow. I wonder what the stock will do once we learn what Apple is getting each month from ATT on their billing? That hasn't been released yet has it? Any idea what Apple's take will be?
 
Before you slam my math, realize that Apple Inc.'s earnings are up year over year at a rate of 139.6%, so a 104% Mac sales increase would seem reasonable. The halo effect from the iPhone could accelerate Mac sales this fall, not to mention the upcoming release of Leopard, OS X.

At some point the momentum in market share growth will accelerate as Mac sales reach a tipping point. Maybe it's when PC users compare Leopard to Vista and realize that Leopard wins hands down.

It's going to be a great Christmas!

Sorry guys the math is quite wrong. You cannot add 4 lot of 26 to get the whole year's growth. Apple's growth in unit sales will probably average around 30 % for the whole year. Hopefully it will be more but this quarter's trend is probably consistent for the year.

If this doesn't make sense to you then consider that from a year ago Mac US sales increased 26% from 750K to almost 1000K. If each quarter had increased 25% from the previous then this quarter's numbers should have been more like 2000K.

Still if Apple sell 1.6M this quarter total then it will be very good.
 
so is there any point buying apple shares now? :confused:

You bet. In two years $138 will seem cheap when aapl hits 300+.

At the rate that Apple is growing and taking into account extra earnings from the iPhone. EPS will be 8-9 by end of 2009.:)
 
You bet. In two years $138 will seem cheap when aapl hits 300+.

At the rate that Apple is growing and taking into account extra earnings from the iPhone. EPS will be 8-9 by end of 2009.:)

Oh man I hope so...I've got some options for Jan '09 at $100. If AAPL goes to $300, I'll be golden.
 
I seem to be missing something in all of this discussion of how to compound the 26.2% growth rate out to a year's time. 26.2% is already year-over-year growth...Q206 to Q207.
 
Why do i remember Apple having 10% market share in the U.S? 5.6% seem little to be in the top 5 computer vendors in the U.S. :confused:
 
It is nice to see Apple's marketshare up to 5.6% in the US, however what is Apple's worldwide marketshare? It is a world economy especially when it comes to technology products. I know it is going to be less, but are they making as much progress worldwide as they are in the US?
 
Why do i remember Apple having 10% market share in the U.S? 5.6% seem little to be in the top 5 computer vendors in the U.S. :confused:

Apple held it's highest market-share in 1990 with 11.73% of the market (this includes numbers from both the Macintosh and Apple II). This share declined until 2004 with a paltry 1.84%.

What this shows is two things:
  1. Apple is coming back
  2. The PC market is fragmented between manufacturers

It is nice to see Apple's marketshare up to 5.6% in the US, however what is Apple's worldwide marketshare? It is a world economy especially when it comes to technology products. I know it is going to be less, but are they making as much progress worldwide as they are in the US?

Well, they're not in the top 5, so it appears that Apple has some serious work to do internationally. Without numbers from IDC, we can extrapolate based on Apple's own quarterly report on sales.
 
Look at http://www.apple.com/macosx/upgrade/requirements.html - many PowerPC G3 systems aren't even supported by OX 10.4. Do you include these in the "user base" or not?

the Beige G3 or some iMac G3's might not be supported by 10.4 but they sure run it good (a upgraded Beige G3 that is) with the help of xpostfacto, i know cause i am running 10.4.10 on my Beige G3 AIO (freebee) in my sig. i bought the cd's and not the dvd which put money into Apples hands.

if i had the money i would have bought a new Mac, but i cant

i am glad to see Apple moving up in the world
 
My contributions

I will join the parade here, and toot my horn, too. Two Mac Minis purchased, one in May 2007, one in June 2007. Looking for a notebook in the fall. Go Apple!!!
 
i personally know ~10people who waited for a high res MBP. most have and some will buy on in Q3. and i know a lot who wait for leopard.

bootcamp+parallel is a big switcher.
 
Apple is making sure of that - each version of OSX has tighter hardware requirements that push older systems into the "unsupported" category.

That's nonsense.

I own a 5+ year old iBook G3 (blazing along at a whopping 600 Mhz :rolleyes:) and it has had Jaguar, Panther and Tiger installed. Each of those got progressively more stable and faster. Tiger is amazing on it. There are no noticeable lags during usage. There's no bizarre behavior. It's solid and very responsive. Obviously, I'm not doing any rigorous production work on this thing, but for a casual-use laptop, my iBook is hard to beat. Likewise, I have installed various versions of OS X on older hardware where I work and have witnessed similar performances bumps each time so I know this is not just a fluke in my case.

Where do you get this idea that Apple is gearing OS X so it pushes older systems into the unsupported category? From what I can tell, they're doing a fantastic job retaining compatibility with older hardware--certainly better than what I've seen with Windows XP.
 
is this the highest market share apple's ever had?

For some historical perspective, see the Ars Technica article
http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/total-share.ars/1

in particular:

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Just for fun

Mac OSX has only market share to take (from Windows). Just for fun I ran the two companies stock for the last 5 years...
 

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Apple held it's highest market-share in 1990 with 11.73% of the market (this includes numbers from both the Macintosh and Apple II). This share declined until 2004 with a paltry 1.84%.

What this shows is two things:
  1. Apple is coming back
  2. The PC market is fragmented between manufacturers

It also shows that they can disappear overnight and no one will notice ;)
 
It is nice to see Apple's marketshare up to 5.6% in the US, however what is Apple's worldwide marketshare? It is a world economy especially when it comes to technology products. I know it is going to be less, but are they making as much progress worldwide as they are in the US?

Some parts of the world like Asia tend to pirate software more. And it is probably easier for people to pirate Windows apps and also people that pirate are probably the same ones that look for super cheap machines. Integrated graphics, budget AMD processors, and floppy drives.

In Latin America, they probably look for a good deal on hardware too.

Anyways, even if people wanted to purchase a Mac, so much dependency with Windows even with websites that it will be difficult for them.
 
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