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Apple's Media Event to See Introduction of iPad 2, Cloud-Based MobileMe?

i kinda doubt apple will have some kind of premium version of the ipad. it works for computers, but they haven't done anything like that with their mobile devices, the iphone and ipod touch, they just have different memory.

the ipad still isn't a laptop replacement yet, so i don't know if it'd be wise for them to make such a better ipad in comparison to less powerful ipads. the ipad 1 sold so many more than anyone would have thought, so i'm sure they're thinking they can sell a lot more of just a nice upgrade with more features and better software coming, compared to that, and a premium one with retina and better hardware. i just don't see it.

i can see them holding off on retina display until next year, but i don't see new ipads coming this fall. just doesn't fit with apple, who are very consistent with product launches.
 
chris975d said:
Ah...there's another example of my "if the external design changes, but the guts remain relatively the same...it's considered a huge upgrade" idea that I totally forgot about. Those two phones were EXACTLY the same, except for the addition of 3G capabilities and the GPS, like you said. But it was typically considered a "huge upgrade" as well. Yet, when the 3GS more than doubled the "horsepower" of the phone (the GPU upgrade alone was probably 10 times better than the GPU of the 3G), it was hardly even considered an upgrade by the masses, just because it "looked the same" as the 3G.
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Yup. I wonder if we will see more yearly physical changes because of that perception.
 
The #1 thing i'm looking forward to the most from this announcement is the number of complainers that come out of the woodwork. It's white, it's black, it's too heavy, it's too light, the camera is in the wrong place, no flash, it won't cure world peace, it doesn't give me the numbers to the next lottery drawing, etc.
 
diamond.g said:
Yup. I wonder if we will see more yearly physical changes because of that perception.
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Well, so far, the upgrade cycle has had a consistent pattern:

-original iPhone to iPhone 3G = major external redesign, minor internal hardware upgrade

-iPhone 3G to 3GS = little/no external redesign, MAJOR internal hardware upgrade

-iPhone 3GS to iPhone 4 = major external redesign, relatively minor internal hardware upgrade (added "bells and whistles", but not much that upgraded actual computational power) *like the 3G to 3GS was

So, at least so far, they've had a staggered pattern of major change to external one year, major change to internal architecture the next year. If they follow this again with the iPhone 5, it would be a minor tweak to the external design, and a relatively major internal hardware change. And, funny enough, the rumors so far about iPhone 5's upgrades follow just that...not much change externally (maybe a tweak of the antenna), yet a dual core CPU and a MAJOR upgrade to the GPU. These two things would make a major difference in performance, but if the external design doesn't change much, I'll guarantee you that the average person won't think of it as a big change. Just like most didn't think there was a big change from 3G to 3GS, when in actuality there was.
 
Hey guys, I am fairly new to Apple and their products, so I really can't say what and how Apple used to update their products, but would they really do such a "huge" event, inviting the press and so on and give the iPad just a small specification update? :cool:
 
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asfoorh said:
Hey guys, I am fairly new to Apple and their products, so I really can't say what and how Apple used to update their products, but would they really do such a "huge" event, inviting the press and so on and give the iPad just a spec bump? :cool:
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They've had one for each iPhone update, even when relatively minor. And since Apple holds the iPad in similar high regard as the iPhone, they will probably always have an "iPad event". Same thing they do with iPods in September, even when it's not much of an upgrade.
 
will the media event be streamed on apple site like last time and before?

as the title because i really want to watch the event
and it is in html for mac users right?
 
looks like it won't be live streamed this time :(

so disappointing. but i'll follow a couple live blogs and HOPE that apple posts a video of the event later today. i HAVE to see this.
 
gr8whtd0pe said:
I still don't understand why people would think that Apple is going to release another iPad later this year. That is not like them, or any company really...
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I agree. They've never done multiple revisions of any of their devices in the same year before. Just as we customers would feel cheated buying a new device only to have it made obsolete by the next version only 5 months later, so Apple would be wasting their resources producing tons of iPad2's if they new that they would be superseded by iPad3's in 5 months.
 
chris975d said:
Well, so far, the upgrade cycle has had a consistent pattern:

-original iPhone to iPhone 3G = major external redesign, minor internal hardware upgrade

-iPhone 3G to 3GS = little/no external redesign, MAJOR internal hardware upgrade

-iPhone 3GS to iPhone 4 = major external redesign, relatively minor internal hardware upgrade (added "bells and whistles", but not much that upgraded actual computational power) *like the 3G to 3GS was
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I don't agree with this characterization at all. The iPhone 4 had a completely re-designed camera system with the ability to take HD video, a camera flash, the higher-res display, and a front-facing camera for facetime. The 3GS had none of those things. You call that a "relatively minor internal hardware upgrade"?

Also, iPhone to iPhone 3G: the 3G had 3G connectivity and a GPS chip, neither of which the iPhone had. Again, you call the addition of two more hardware capabilities to be a "minor internal hardware upgrade"?
 
asfoorh said:
Hey guys, I am fairly new to Apple and their products, so I really can't say what and how Apple used to update their products, but would they really do such a "huge" event, inviting the press and so on and give the iPad just a spec bump? :cool:
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Depends on your perception on "huge".

If it gets a spec upgrade, brand new connectivity via Thunderb, and a new speaker design (and potentially tinkered external design), that will be pretty big for a 1 year old successful product.
 
dgalvan123 said:
I don't agree with this characterization at all. The iPhone 4 had a completely re-designed camera system with the ability to take HD video, a camera flash, the higher-res display, and a front-facing camera for facetime. The 3GS had none of those things. You call that a "relatively minor internal hardware upgrade"?

Also, iPhone to iPhone 3G: the 3G had 3G connectivity and a GPS chip, neither of which the iPhone had. Again, you call the addition of two more hardware capabilities to be a "minor internal hardware upgrade"?
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Again, I'm talking about the actual hardware architecture of the device. Not the secondary hardware like cameras, screens, etc. The parts that determine the "speed" and how powerful the apps can be..things like CPU, GPU, and RAM. Not unlike buying a laptop or desktop computer. If I took a laptop without a webcam, and then kept more or less the same internals (CPU, GPU, motherboard, etc), but added a webcam...would you consider that a "significant upgrade"? It would have zero bearing on how fast applications could run, or how powerful said apps could be. Things like the megapixel count of a camera, camera flash, front facing camera don't determine how fast apps can run, or how much computational power a device has. But a CPU that's twice as powerful as the previous generation (such as the case of the 3G to 3GS upgrade) makes a huge difference to how powerful apps/games can be.

Back to the example of the original iPhone to iPhone 3G upgrade... it kept the exact same CPU, exact same weak GPU, same amount of RAM...that means that apps will/would run exactly the same on both devices, and apps had to be written to the limitations of those components.
 
Like some others - I am holding off until I see an improved MM.

Sounds like it is just not ready yet or they did not want to shift the focus on iPad2.
 
63dot said:
iPad2 is far better than I expected and it kind of overshadows MBP refresh
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That's because Apples working on gradually transitioning their OS X powered computers to iOS gadgets. There's far more profit and less technical requirements. Cheaper to build driving up profits and making them more like an iPad with a keyboard.
 
ozred said:
That's because Apples working on gradually transitioning their OS X powered computers to iOS gadgets. There's far more profit and less technical requirements. Cheaper to build driving up profits and making them more like an iPad with a keyboard.
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So true. There's this one older gentleman, like me, who works at the Apple store and he's one of the big fans of Apple IIe when it came out because it really changed the way people saw computers because they could actually afford one.

This doesn't change the fact that some kid walked into the store and asked his mom if he could go to the iPod store. Since the store near me is a very small Apple Store, unlike the larger ones in bigger cities, they have their focus on the devices. Sometimes there's no Mac mini there, or no Macbook, or no Mac Pro on the floor. However, half of the floor space is dedicated to iPod and iPad, their cases, cables, and cool docks where you can put your iPod to fill a small room with sound all the way up to a high school gymnasium. They seem to think the devices are what is the thing to push. Apple knows where their bread is buttered on.

I wouldn't be surprised if Macs were an afterthought in a few years. It already looks like they have diminished a number of their really great looking displays. The line between computer and device is starting to blur and we have only seen the beginning.
 
63dot said:
So true. There's this one older gentleman, like me, who works at the Apple store and he's one of the big fans of Apple IIe when it came out because it really changed the way people saw computers because they could actually afford one.

This doesn't change the fact that some kid walked into the store and asked his mom if he could go to the iPod store. Since the store near me is a very small Apple Store, unlike the larger ones in bigger cities, they have their focus on the devices. Sometimes there's no Mac mini there, or no Macbook, or no Mac Pro on the floor. However, half of the floor space is dedicated to iPod and iPad, their cases, cables, and cool docks where you can put your iPod to fill a small room with sound all the way up to a high school gymnasium. They seem to think the devices are what is the thing to push. Apple knows where their bread is buttered on.

I wouldn't be surprised if Macs were an afterthought in a few years. It already looks like they have diminished a number of their really great looking displays. The line between computer and device is starting to blur and we have only seen the beginning.
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Steve said as much in the keynote. They know that they have to get iDevices right.
 
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