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When you wipe out a Mac or get a new one, you pulls down everything in minute? Do you mean your documents and desktop? Because it's currently not possible to backup up a whole Mac system using iCloud. I wish that would be possible, like on iOS and iPadOS.
Yes but also I keep my common files in “my docs” folder. Files for my emulators and other stuff. So all my email, music, docs, files, photos/videos are all in the Apple Orchard. So I can resume from where I was with. New system or wipe.
 
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I’ve always found photo stream hit and miss.
Sometimes photos are available on all devices, sometimes not.
It’d be a shame to see shared albums go the same way at some future point.
 
Yes but also I keep my common files in “my docs” folder. Files for my emulators and other stuff. So all my email, music, docs, files, photos/videos are all in the Apple Orchard. So I can resume from where I was with. New system or wipe.
There are a host of file types in your Libraries that iCloud ignores. I also wondered how you can get back up to speed quickly when your system and app prefs need to be set to your preferences. Not to mention there are size limits on eligible data files (media) and, from personal experience, iCloud doesn’t like disk images and is known to corrupt them.

Can you please provide more specifics as to what you can restore when your Mac is wiped or you move to a new system.
 
There are a host of file types in your Libraries that iCloud ignores. I also wondered how you can get back up to speed quickly when your system and app prefs need to be set to your preferences. Not to mention there are size limits on eligible data files (media) and, from personal experience, iCloud doesn’t like disk images and is known to corrupt them.

Can you please provide more specifics as to what you can restore when your Mac is wiped or you move to a new system.
Doesn't TimeMachine handle all of that?
 
There are a host of file types in your Libraries that iCloud ignores. I also wondered how you can get back up to speed quickly when your system and app prefs need to be set to your preferences. Not to mention there are size limits on eligible data files (media) and, from personal experience, iCloud doesn’t like disk images and is known to corrupt them.

Can you please provide more specifics as to what you can restore when your Mac is wiped or you move to a new system.
App prefs don’t take long to set again. For me theres not much to reinstall or set. As for more specifics, ehhh, it works great for what I need. I have around 400gb in assorted files in my Docs folder it restores.

I’m not making some written in stone proclamation atop the mountain man. Just saying it backs up all the stuff I need and gets me back up in a short amount of time. I won’t be itemizing everything here today, for you, sorry.
 
Apple turning into more and more like the rest of the tech industry, all about profits.

Photo Stream is great, temporary, doesn't use iCloud storage and was free.
I used it all the time, I don't need to store all my photos or have access to them on all my devices all the time. Plus in todays fast pace world with constant barrage of content who goes back and looks at old photos. Once and done.
 
I’m very disappointed by this. Photo Stream has been a really good backup when I go on trips. I always know that I won’t lose anything. The problem with iCloud Photos is that they just keep piling up, whereas Photo Stream would simply replace the oldest one when you exceeded 1000 photos. I thought it was a good implementation for backup purposes. I have over 1.8 tb of Photos on my Mac. I absolutely don’t want those syncing to iCloud (and could never afford that much storage).

I hope Apple doesn’t continue a crusade of removing useful features.
I'm quite frustrated by this change tbh. I don't even have that many in terms of GB storage, and it would comfortably fit within my current icloud subscription, but I simply dont want to store all my photos in the cloud. I love that any new ones would appear on my mac/ipad etc, but I like to keep things stored locally where possible. Im hoping there will be a way to replicate this via some clever shortcut or something
 
My library is in the terabytes, and being able to show off any recent photo on any device I grab is an automatic, simple, free and convenient feature that Jobs loved.
  • Forcing users off that without an equivalent or better and still-free replacement,
  • Forcing the user to manually do what the free feature did,
  • and suggesting the user pay more if they want the convenience of the free feature again…
  • And executing that pure greed move during a holiday weekend…
Steve Jobs is yelling in his grave.
 
My Photo Stream was awesome in that it only stored the latest photos which would get transferred over, and then it would no longer have to store them since they were now saved on every device, no need to store them online forever.

this doesn't make sense to me. you mean *you* are transferring them over if you wanted to keep it. also you need to manually manage your videos. you're doing a ton of work to which plenty of alternative services exist that don't involve the cloud.
 
My library is in the terabytes, and being able to show off any recent photo on any device I grab is an automatic, simple, free and convenient feature that Jobs loved.
  • Forcing users off that without an equivalent or better and still-free replacement,
  • Forcing the user to manually do what the free feature did,
  • and suggesting the user pay more if they want the convenience of the free feature again…
  • And executing that pure greed move during a holiday weekend…
Steve Jobs is yelling in his grave.

I'm pretty sure if Steve saw iCloud photo library, he would have turned off photostream a long time ago.

Photostream doesn't even work with video and if you took a sensitive photo that you didn't mean to take, you'd have to delete in 2 places which confuses a lot of people. It's not so simple and not so convenient. If you edited a photo, the edits don't sync either.
 
5GB is paid for by the price of the device. 10GB would only increase the price of the device. Since I already pay for 2TB, I rather not increase the free storage. 10GB doesn't even change anything for most people. 5GB is more than enough for metadata and was never meant to host all of your photos or do full iPhone backups.

Hey maybe I’m wrong but check it out, Tidbits agrees with me: https://tidbits.com/2023/05/29/apple-to-shut-down-my-photo-stream-on-26-july-2023/
 
Bit of a bummer seeing this (pouring one out for the somewhat glitchy but very useful service). I was always expecting it to happen - as they get people to pay them for iCloud Photo library for anything but small amount of photos.

The issue for me with a 1.x terabyte photo library, is iCloud was free (it auto shared photo, not video, library updates to multiple devices) and the other is a ongoing $120 a year subscription for something I don't want to spend $120 a year on. Probably off to manual syncing at the time and considering options.

Too bad Apple didn't offer a paid ongoing version (i.e. synched photo library updates between devices, for alot less than $120 a year of course) but I probably would have gone for that.
 
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Apple turning into more and more like the rest of the tech industry, all about profits.
What do you mean like Apple is a for-profit company with shareholders and things like that? When did that start?? Seriously though this isn’t a new thing for Apple. I think longtime Apple fans even like myself have a nostalgia for Apple that makes them feel that back in the good ole days Apple was this wonderful thing. You know like we remember everything back in the good ole days was.

But you need to pay for it.



What? No! That's the point, just shoot a photo and it on your Mac.
Apple has to pay for the cloud infrastructure to store the photo, so yes you have to pay for it. You have to pay for the Mac that you're using to back it up as well. Hardware costs money.

For many people the $.99 a month plan has plenty of storage. I have over 11,000 and photos and I am under the 50 GB limit. I only have about 200 videos, and most of those are just short ones. The biggest advantage for using iCloud is knowing everything is backed up without having to do something. Many people aren't going to be disciplined enough to back up the phone every day so for, however many days, the phone it's not backed up that's how many days of potential loss of data.


I imagine if you're using taking a lot of videos, especially longer movie type videos it would be easier to fill up even 2 TB. I think for that the best solution would be to move those on an external drive and back them up on another external drive. With 4K and soon to be 8K videos I can imagine it would be possible to use hundreds of terabytes of storage.
 
But you need to pay for it.

And? You said " It can’t get any easier than that.". It absolutely can.

What? No!

What do you mean no? Your photos do expire after 30 days. It's been like that since the beginning.

That's the point, just shoot a photo and it on your Mac.

If you're only using photostream for photos you'll never save long term and you refuse to pay for iCloud, it's quite a niche function.
 
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What do you mean like Apple is a for-profit company with shareholders and things like that? When did that start?? Seriously though this isn’t a new thing for Apple. I think longtime Apple fans even like myself have a nostalgia for Apple that makes them feel that back in the good ole days Apple was this wonderful thing. You know like we remember everything back in the good ole days was.
I know, I should have maybe said that more sarcastically. They like to think of themselves as the standout, the rouge, pirate, etc.. (and a lot people eat that stuff up) All that is just Marketing, but sometimes they do things like Photo Stream which make their tech great.

Then again they are also masters at Apple give, Apple take away.
 
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I know, I should have maybe said that more sarcastically. They like to think of themselves as the standout, the rouge, pirate, etc.. (and a lot people eat that stuff up) All that is just Marketing, but sometimes they do things like Photo Stream which make their tech great.

Then again they are also masters at Apple give, Apple take away.
I guess it's a balance, but any corporation's number one proper priority is survival. If you have a choice between two jobs and one pays twice as much and the other one is working for a charity what one will you pick? There's a good chance you're going to pick the one that pays twice as much. Not everyone will do that make that choice, but most people just because they want to do well.

Remember in order for us to have Apple products the corporation has to do well and make a profit. You might think they're indestructible because of how high of a market share they have right now, but look at BlackBerry for example. Many people under 20 years old don't even know that name. In ten years that could be Apple. I hope not, but who knows. A few bad decisions at high level could make that happen. Before everyone says it, no not decisions like ending support for a service only a small percentage of customers use. Yes, the people who use that apparently loved it but unfortunately that wasn't many people.
 
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