if the press event is at 10 am....why is the store closed until 4pm? what do they plan to do in all that time?
You know what's missing from this thread?
Lots of totally speculative quotes of potential handset prices and tariffs. I think more people definitely need to weigh in with a bunch of total guesswork that doesn't actually add anything whatsoever to the discussion.
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Because you won't be there.Why don't you head over to forums.macfacts.com?
You know what's missing from this thread?
Lots of totally speculative quotes of potential handset prices and tariffs. I think more people definitely need to weigh in with a bunch of total guesswork that doesn't actually add anything whatsoever to the discussion.
Going with o2 in the UK is an absolute scandal. Apple is a company that prides itself on standing out from the crowd; devices that are a thing of beauty, technology to covet.
So choosing o2 is a bit of a contradiction. Of course o2 would agree to the terms - they are losing customers hand over fist since being taken over by Telefonica. Inflexible upgrades (some times you cannot upgrade, they force you into a lesser yet more expensive contract), date plans stuck in the 1980's, Indian call centres manned by people they have dug out of the nearest mental asylum and UK customer services so bad that they make Virgin Media look like a beacon of achievement.
Apple should have been less stringent and used a more reputable provider that is on the rise rather than one who is finished. Seriously, it just makes sense to have Apple working with Vodafone or t-mobile.
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I agree, when I was in Ireland last week I saw billboards and ads for very inexpensive long distance cell rates. But my travel abroad is tax deductible, so @ $.99 a minute plus long distance when I talk to the U.S. (and $20 for 20 megs of data) is not unreasonable. Is that the only reason??If you do a lot of foreign travel then unlocking will be very very useful - cutting down a lot of expense on roaming charges.
Visual voice mail is the only service other providers can't provide
( oh, other than EDGE.. if iPhone uses EDGE instead of 3G ).
Never before have more true words been spoken. O2 is the worst carrier in the UK. The rip you off for everything, and are simply not competitive. (I couldnt believe just how much more expensive they were.. until I looked), My wife couldnt even cancel with them without them writing to us demanding money that we didnt owe, claiming they never received the cancellation letter (3 phone calls and 2 letters later.... Jesus!)
way to go apple. O2 sucks donkey balls, and I wouldnt want to be associated with them in the slightest.
What a disappointment.
Good points.Its not insane. Its Apple and Apple alone who are bringing the customers in. Apple handles support for the phone. Apple handles marketing for the phone. And the network does not need to subsidise a penny. So you are essentially saying the networks should be getting new customers for free?
Supply, demand, and exclusivity. Apple has the hot product and that seems to be worth something to the phone companies. Great for Apple and the bit of Apple stock I own.I agree with Project. Apple comes to a carrier and says, "How would you like to make a lot of money without spending any. And get more press than you ever have in your history?" Seems like winning the lottery to me.
am i being thick or something? because i don't understand why revenue sharing would make it more likely that the phone is to be subsidised. i would have thought it was the opposite. presumably these people subsidise the handset to induce people to sign up to a contract and the recover the cost of the subsidy from the monthly charges. so if they have a lower amount to keep from the monthly charges surely they are considerably less likely to be able to afford the subsidise the handset.