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Apple's New 8-Core Mac Pro Shows Up in Benchmarks
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my render farm's servers run 1.5 TB of ram each, this thing looks like a joke
good luck with your youtube movies...
good luck with your youtube movies...
I guess pricing will be a interesting detail (since the 12 core Mac Pro's were stratospheric in prices), but overall my reaction is - eh, okay.
This new one isn't quite as fast as the top of line old one and you can't change out CPU's or add video cards and HD's internally etc. like you could before (where all the cables were kept inside a neat looking aluminum box) - but the new one looks really cool though.
Okay Mac Pro Cube...lets see what your pricing is.
croooow
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Whenever I saw a silver Mac Pro (or the older yet similarly designed G5 Power Mac) it usually had a bunch of devices attached to it...
nutmac
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E5-2697 costs $2614 and E5-1680 costs $1723 (Apple no doubt gets heavier discount). No a tremendous price difference, so if E5-1680 will be on the low-end configuration, I expect Mac Pro to start at around $4000 (since Mac Pros will have dual AMD FirePros).
WardC
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I am excited about the new Mac Pro and cannot wait long enough until it comes out.
One thing...those benchmark numbers are 32-bit numbers and not 64-bit numbers. They are also Geekbench 3, which scores lower on average than Geekbench 2. Also, the new Mac Pro is using 1867MHz RAM which factors into the score. The current Mac Pro uses 1333MHz RAM.
I do not think the "new" 8-core system is all faster than a current 2.93GHz or 3.06GHz 12-core machine, but I do think that the new 1-processor 8-core Mac Pro is faster than the older 8-core machines. No telling how fast the new 12-core will be, but Geekbench scores should be over 30,000.
One thing...those benchmark numbers are 32-bit numbers and not 64-bit numbers. They are also Geekbench 3, which scores lower on average than Geekbench 2. Also, the new Mac Pro is using 1867MHz RAM which factors into the score. The current Mac Pro uses 1333MHz RAM.
I do not think the "new" 8-core system is all faster than a current 2.93GHz or 3.06GHz 12-core machine, but I do think that the new 1-processor 8-core Mac Pro is faster than the older 8-core machines. No telling how fast the new 12-core will be, but Geekbench scores should be over 30,000.
Mom and dad might have good jobs. You never know.
Frankly, gamers whining about needing higher end GPUs and what not annoy the heck out of me. I would be embarrassed if the main driver for my computer purchase was my gaming needs.
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I'm also wondering about the updated Display that will come out for the new Mac Pro. New spec bump on iMacs in the past few days. Didn't get an updated screen in a higher res, but I know it's not neeeed for the mass majority. Yet if they do release this on there next coming event with a revamped display all recent iMac buyers will be complaining. Anywho those specs are a great deal of computing power. I'm waiting on price details before I make up my mind by the end of this year.
I'm also wondering about the updated Display that will come out for the new Mac Pro. New spec bump on iMacs in the past few days. Didn't get an updated screen in a higher res, but I know it's not neeeed for the mass majority. Yet if they do release this on there next coming event with a revamped display all recent iMac buyers will be complaining. Anywho those specs are a great deal of computing power. I'm waiting on price details before I make up my mind by the end of this year.
puckhead193
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remember how excited we all got but it turned out to be nothing 🙄
Just release the dam thing already. Each day i'm getting more fed up
Fairly in line with what to expect. Loses slightly to socket 1155 quad cores in single threaded performance, but performs about twice as good in multi-threaded jobs.
sulpfiction
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When more then 3/4 of your companies revenue is from "iCrap", it doesn't take a genius to figure out why it's front page news.
It's a beautiful, G4 Cube like design - but this Mac Pro user doesn't want a beautiful (non user replaceable?) CPU/GPU stack where I have to plug in external HD's etc. and the associated wires.
So no I'm not happy with the design as a replacement for my Mac Pro. To Replace an iMac with a beast of a machine it might be great - and maybe that's the market its targeted at (high-end home users that can spring for more than an iMac).
I may still get one of these (sure as heck wait for them to be out and see if there are hardware issues that need resolving during the first couple of months, since its so different), but I may just get a used later model Mac Pro Aluminum model instead where I can put my HD's in nice and neat and no extra cables & externalities (got enough already). JMHO...
Good point here, this would be the ideal market area (very high end) to bring retina resolution displays to the desktop (non laptop) and I'm sure they'll be expensive. ;-)
This could be the very last generation for the ol' Mac Pro as a standalone desktop device. As internet bandwidth improves expect to see uber-thin clients off-shoring cpu work to data centers.
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On topic, care to guess-timate entry level costs? Unless Apple has an arsenal of discounted parts, known specs alone suggest entry level prices beyond current systems.
- Dual AMD Fire Pro 6GB Graphics
- PCIe 3.0
- PCIe SSD Boot Volume
Add the expense of placing internal drives in expensive Thunderbolt 2.0 chassises:
- 4 x SATA II HDD's
- 1x LG Blu-Ray Burner
- 1x 256GB Mercury EXTREME Pro 6G
I'm guess-timating $3K+ for basic systems.
Main concern: "With configurations offering up to 12 cores of processing power"
Evidence points to one processor, offering only 4 DIMM slots and a heavy reliance on its GPU's. Three 4K displays are impressive, yet 4K is jumping the gun a bit: expensive, ISP's can't support the large data w/o developed compression, adoption [rate] still questionable ( re: Blu-Ray vs HD battle).
Pro's are split on external storage; increased wired devices negate point of a small platform, built-in components lack GPU and PCIe expandability, 1 processor.
On topic, care to guess-timate entry level costs? Unless Apple has an arsenal of discounted parts, known specs alone suggest entry level prices beyond current systems.
- Dual AMD Fire Pro 6GB Graphics
- PCIe 3.0
- PCIe SSD Boot Volume
Add the expense of placing internal drives in expensive Thunderbolt 2.0 chassises:
- 4 x SATA II HDD's
- 1x LG Blu-Ray Burner
- 1x 256GB Mercury EXTREME Pro 6G
I'm guess-timating $3K+ for basic systems.
Main concern: "With configurations offering up to 12 cores of processing power"
Evidence points to one processor, offering only 4 DIMM slots and a heavy reliance on its GPU's. Three 4K displays are impressive, yet 4K is jumping the gun a bit: expensive, ISP's can't support the large data w/o developed compression, adoption [rate] still questionable ( re: Blu-Ray vs HD battle).
Pro's are split on external storage; increased wired devices negate point of a small platform, built-in components lack GPU and PCIe expandability, 1 processor.
Apart from boasting rights it seems to me that the need for one of these machines is minimal considering the cost will likely be for base entry probably 2.5k-3k.
So at this point I am sure you are calling me an idiot and know nothing about the needs of developers, gamers etc etc. BTW I am a developer with 20+ years now.
I have one of the old Mac Pro's 2008 and I love it. A good desktop machine now 5 years old which I have 4TB storage in and 16 MB memory. I use as a server. However the Mac Mini with external storage is a much cheaper way to go these days if you want a desktop. It has enough memory for most people and can support two monitors.
I have two Macbook pros that although their storage is limited I can hook up an external drive and my new one can support three external monitors. A 4 TB drive is now on Amazon for $200 or less.
If you roll out the argument about gaming then go and buy a console. Much cheaper option and if that is your thing then why not buy the dedicated hardware.
If you run a server farm then these things can't be racked and most people don't run server farms anymore.
So at this point I am sure you are calling me an idiot and know nothing about the needs of developers, gamers etc etc. BTW I am a developer with 20+ years now.
I have one of the old Mac Pro's 2008 and I love it. A good desktop machine now 5 years old which I have 4TB storage in and 16 MB memory. I use as a server. However the Mac Mini with external storage is a much cheaper way to go these days if you want a desktop. It has enough memory for most people and can support two monitors.
I have two Macbook pros that although their storage is limited I can hook up an external drive and my new one can support three external monitors. A 4 TB drive is now on Amazon for $200 or less.
If you roll out the argument about gaming then go and buy a console. Much cheaper option and if that is your thing then why not buy the dedicated hardware.
If you run a server farm then these things can't be racked and most people don't run server farms anymore.
They wouldn't have bothered with this radical redesign if it was the last generation.