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Apple's New Dock Connector Even Smaller Than Originally Thought
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i might help you out with this one... i just made a quick comparison shot with my not so highly sophisticated but definitely evenly sized block of post-its... it was slavishly slized through in the name of science and i put one half of it about 1/3 of an inch adrift of the other one before i took that pic:
now which one is wider?
still - what some already pointed out... build quality seems quite poor, there are dents at the left corner and the holes of the speaker grill to the right even look like they are a bit off level... could also mean that the parts just didn't match the quality criteria and someone smuggled them out...
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i might help you out with this one... i just made a quick comparison shot with my not so highly sophisticated but definitely evenly sized block of post-its... it was slavishly slized through in the name of science and i put one half of it about 1/3 of an inch adrift of the other one before i took that pic:
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now which one is wider?
The one on top.
Or...
One could assume the OP was talking about the amount of Volts / amps put out by a laptop MagSafe adapter. Provided the internals were built to handle the current, it would likely charge an iPhone / iPad faster if it was built to accept it.
I guess I am giving the OP the benefit of the doubt before jumping on their back
But the USB standard would only output the USB standard...irrespective of what the cable and connector on the other end will support, your output to phone will only be the same as your input from the USB port.
The mag-safe is not limited by the power output from the USB port , its pumping its power directly via the mains transformer, its a mains charger, the limit is not the connection, its the power source. As the power source for the new "dock" connector will be a USB port which has an output limit the same as it has now, then the connection on the other end to the iphone/ipad/ipod will have EXACTLY the same charging rate it has now.
The PORT type in this case has NO BEARING on speed of charging, its just a connection type.
Its not the number of pins, type of connection, or anything else that effects rate of charging, its the amount of power being outputted by the charging source, and in this case, its a USB port, which is limited to 500ma/1000ma on most standard ports, apple patched the macs ports up to 1500ma to support the iPads power hungry nature, but that's the limit on the port now. The mag safe adapters output around 4.6amps (i think, haven't got one to hand at the moment, but it will be in the Amps range rather than the milliamps range)
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Well, I'd say considering you can have much better wireless charging on the Galaxy S3 and the fact no one has copied MagSafe for computers for several years now I would say their is not much chance.
I am going to hope? that the screw holes at the bottom as the same as the current design and hold the, in this case, front on? So it locks into some slide catches on the side and the two screws prevent it from sliding up and unlocking.
i might help you out with this one... i just made a quick comparison shot with my not so highly sophisticated but definitely evenly sized block of post-its... it was slavishly slized through in the name of science and i put one half of it about 1/3 of an inch adrift of the other one before i took that pic:
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now which one is wider?
still - what some already pointed out... build quality seems quite poor, there are dents at the left corner and the holes of the speaker grill to the right even look like they are a bit off level... could also mean that the parts just didn't match the quality criteria and someone smuggled them out...
that still isnt the correct angle of the phones. shows way too much of the bottom.
Hehe! To be honest I was being mildly antagonistic myself
I guess the only question is whether they've squeezed a little more screen width in via a thinner edge bezel. Which looks equally unlikely seeing the pictures of the supposed new front glass.
Shame phones are proving so tardy with their edge-to edge tech! TV's have in the last year or so gone utterly mental in how thin their borders are...
This whole "the screen should go all the way to the edges with as little bezel as possible" thing leaves me a little stumped. I'll try to explain why.
First up, you don't interact physically with your flat screen TV. That means you don't have to consider the ergonomics that you need to think about with a phone. I think, therefore, the comparison of a phone and a TV is invalid. But you can compare the iPhone with things like the GS3 which has far less bezel and ask why.
With regards to the iPhone, there is a very small bezel on the left and right of the screen when held in portrait mode. There are far larger areas above and below the screen. I think it’s clear that Apple could get rid of pretty much all of this space if it chose to – Samsung and HTC have done that so it’s clearly not an issue of the technology not being up to it. This raises the question of why the space is there. I think the answer is in how the iPhone is intended to be used.
No matter what some may claim, it’s simply not true that phones with 4.4” or 4.8” screens can be used with one hand. I see people using the GS3 and they are pretty much always using two hands – one to hold the device and one to interact with their fingers at the screen. Sometimes they hold the device so that one thumb accesses the lower part of the screen and one access the upper part. Most people’s thumbs are probably, what, 2 inches long? Even if you measure from the lower part, where the padded area of the hand adjoins the wrist, there’s no way you can reach across a 4.8” diagonal screen and touch the top far corner with your thumb. It just isn’t possible for the vast majority of people without repositioning the hand which leads to the lower half being unreachable. Remember you have to arch over because, otherwise, you’d end up pressing the lower part of the screen with your palm. If your screen is over a certain size you are clearly designing the device to be held with two hands. If that’s the case there is no need for a bezel area since one hand can cup the device while the other interacts.
If you’re designing a device with a smaller screen to be held with only one hand then you have a different problem – the thumb has a limit to how far it can bend down, towards the wrist. Unless you’re extremely flexible, you can probably only reach almost half way down your palm with your thumb (go ahead and try), and even this is uncomfortable. So, any device intended to be used in one hand needs all the interactive elements that are intended to be used for the main inputs to be held a distance above the palm – you need space below the screen in order to hold the touch screen high enough that you can reach the bottom without having to pull your thumb out of its socket.
This is why the iPhone screen doesn’t go from top to bottom on the device. If it did you would be unable to hold the device in a natural position (the near bottom corner pressed into the centre of your palm, for instance) and still reach the lower edge of the touch screen with your thumb. As an experiment, if you have an iPhone, try holding it in a natural position such as I’ve described and then try touching the bottom centre. You can probably just about do it but then you certainly couldn’t swipe or tap accurately with your thumb curled round so tightly.
There is almost certainly nothing arbitrary about the design of the iPhone. That space above and below the screen is there for a reason and that’s to ensure that the phone is comfortable to use. Designers have to think of these things and, at Apple, they don’t have someone from the marketing team telling them that customers love edge to edge screens so they have to have an edge to edge screen. They allow the form to follow the function. I, for one, am glad of that.
If that pic is indeed legit, then I think the new iPhone is a hair bit wider.. I know the old iPhone in the pic is sitting a little farther from the cam and the tiny bit of angle may make it look much smaller, but notice that you can actually see the bottom of the old iphone resting on the new one and look more closely around that area.... I for one really appreciate the screen browning both directions rather than just height.
For all the folks talking about magsafe like magnets in the connector, I doubt if that will happen. And even the articles that suggested this (as a rumor?) were merely mentioning the idea that the cable can be plugged in either direction as apposed to current connector or other micro usb cables.... also, didn't apple agree to the global micro usb standard not long ago? This new connector will support micro usb if it not outright a micro usb in itself.
All that said, gimme the new iphone already.. this iphone 4 is just too old to keep up and I'm really growing impatient now that I sold my GS2 as well (couldnt stand the wait for software updates.. even with xda devs helping out).
For all the folks talking about magsafe like magnets in the connector, I doubt if that will happen. And even the articles that suggested this (as a rumor?) were merely mentioning the idea that the cable can be plugged in either direction as apposed to current connector or other micro usb cables.... also, didn't apple agree to the global micro usb standard not long ago? This new connector will support micro usb if it not outright a micro usb in itself.
All that said, gimme the new iphone already.. this iphone 4 is just too old to keep up and I'm really growing impatient now that I sold my GS2 as well (couldnt stand the wait for software updates.. even with xda devs helping out).
What is it about wireless charging you find to be "much better"? The fact it's inefficient and wastes a lot of electricity? The fact that you need a flat surface to put the charging mat on? The fact that you can't pick up the device and use it without having to stop charging?
Inductive charging is a gimmick. No, real wireless charging - a phone that can be charging up while in my jacket pocket if a charg point is close enough - that's something I'd like to see.
(un)natural way
The only natural way? I put mine in a shirt pocket - this way it's upside down... bad design is what it is.
The only natural way? I put mine in a shirt pocket - this way it's upside down... bad design is what it is.
Fake
This is obviously a fake. while I like the idea of the dock connector getting smaller (despite the fact that it means I'll have to change my cables, speakers, car radio, etc.), I don't know how anyone could possibly think that Apple (the most usability-obsessed company on the face of the Earth) could ever place the headphone connector on the bottom of the phone (the most impractical location EVER). It was a mistake on the nano and one that I'm sure Apple would never repeat.
This is obviously a fake. while I like the idea of the dock connector getting smaller (despite the fact that it means I'll have to change my cables, speakers, car radio, etc.), I don't know how anyone could possibly think that Apple (the most usability-obsessed company on the face of the Earth) could ever place the headphone connector on the bottom of the phone (the most impractical location EVER). It was a mistake on the nano and one that I'm sure Apple would never repeat.
Makes sense. It doesn't take much to hold a virtually weightless cable in the phone... even while using it.
They can offer a charger for the wall that works like a macbook charger in addition to the low powered USB. Either way you are still ridiculously rude.
One could only hope but for years they have been giving us the dock connector and now they want to change it. I don't call that keeping up with usability. I'll have a good half dozen chargers that will be useless if I were to upgrade.
Or to commit the most annoying grammatical/punctuation error on the internet while demonstrating your superiority.
It's not a gimmick, electric toothbrushes have been using it successfully for several years now. It IS also much better, I would much rather just place the device in a stand or on a mat to charge up with plugging anything in, seriously what is the point of MagSafe on a phone? What? If you trip over the wire the phone is going to be far too light to provide enough weight so the MagSafe disconnects. It won't work.
And if your on about using the phone whilst charging then we may as well just stick to plugging a cable in end off, no MagSafe and no wireless charging.
Aside from saving one or two seconds when putting the phone on charge, what advantage does inductive charging have?
On the iPhone picture, you can still see the white part on the bottom of the 4S on top, in contact with the supposed new design. Would you be able to see it if it was much shorter, given the perspective?
and still from the same site: http://www.nowhereelse.fr/nouvel-iphone-5-video-photos-69127/iphone5-1-3/
Am I wrong? The green area shows a width growth
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They have repeated it on all the iPods, including the touch, for quite a few years now.
The ring appears to be separated from the antenna body with a thin bit of plastic or rubber. One flaw I noticed in iPhone 4 is that if you use the Griffin audio connector which has a metal sheath along with a car charger setup, the antenna can carry the current from the power jack into the audio feed. So an insulated power jack makes more sense.
Convenience, as Palm proved with it's Pre system, place it on the stand, it will charge and automatically change to special modes like hands free etc so you can use it without taking it off a dock.
But as no one has bothered to come up with it's own MagSafe for computers, I can't see them doing the same if Apple does it for the iPhone, which it won't. If anything it will be a USB connector.