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This is a good solid 1.0 release. Remember Google Maps has been going for several years and more. Google won't be laughing today. They know they are about to be eclipsed by Apple.

Yes this is true. Until they actually saw the app running.
 
I don't think Apple servers being "bogged up" are the reason why Apple Maps can't find basic addresses in New York City.

True that. Unless they have something up their sleeve for a very fast response to errors, this was a strategic mistake, IMO.

One of the reasons that Apple wants the Map app to be theirs instead of Google's is long term advertising dollars. If a premature release tarnishes the brand of the app, and Google gives a good alternative that people can use instead, the native Apple Maps app may never recover. So those advertising dollars will be lost forever, rather than delayed.
 
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damn shame...im jumping ship from android to iOS tomorrow, and I rely a lot on gmaps for traffic info. the maps implementation iOS blows compared to gmaps...hope iOS maps gets better
 
The people who cry "Steve would never have allowed this" are funny. Steve probably was one of the ones who pushed this given they had to have decided more than a year ago if they were going to build a brand new maps app from the group up.
Remember his MobileMe explosion? I believe it went something along the lines of "Well, why the F### doesn't it do that, then!?"

Someone at Apple needs to have that same conversation with the Mapping team.
 
This has nothing to do with Apple going thermonuclear on Google and everything to do with Google hindering Apple's ability to move forward and innovate.

Apple's approach to collaboration cooperation in the last couple years: Act like an angry rabies invested mental patient.

Can't blame google for throwing a few punches back.
 
Phone, safari, text and then maps followed by email are my most used functions on the iPhone. If I wanted to search for a place I would pull it up in maps. If I needed a phone number for a place I would search it in maps.

I like the turn by turn function & concept of 3D mapping. So far it's def a mixed bag with Apple Maps.

I already miss the street view!

I do agree with previous posts that Steve Jobs never would have let such a prominent app / function of the iPhone to be release unless it were more polished.

I only hope that Apple will be quick to release updates as mistakes are found and filler data is added.

I do think that Apple should separate themselves from competing companies such as Google and Samsung.

Take that 1 billion dollar check from Samsung and sink right into iOS upgrades and start with the maps! :)
 
As the saying goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Sorry but this was a purely dumb move by Apple. Google maps were fine and worked as needed. If it needed more functionality, hand it to google instead of writing your own app. The amount of time and money spent just to move to your own map platform is beyond stupid.

The question for me isnt whether google will release a maps app. its whether apple will accept it. Apple never accepted google search. and I dont see them accepting another vastly superior google product either.
 
I'm appalled at how bad the new Maps app is, and I'm actually thinking of canceling my iPhone 5 purchase for that reason. The serious errors are inexcusable. But for me, as a resident of NYC, the absence of Subway stops and routes is flat-out insane. It's almost a constant NYC ritual to use Maps to plot out Subway routes and to locate stops near points of interest. It's one of the main things I use a phone for.
 
Wow. Everyone is criticising an app they didn't use much before iOS 6...

it wasnt used much because it had no live turn by turn directions and therefore didnt really function as a navigation system. people will use it now, and will want to end up in the right place.
 
Mark my word, Google will release a Maps app for iOS. Google needs the revenue from the ads/sponsored POIs in Maps, and they need the millions of iOS users around the world to tap on them.

Sure they will make and submit a Maps app. The question is, will Apple approve it? It would not be the first rejection based on "duplicated functionality", would it?
 
When Apple removed the youtube app from iOS, Google released its own.
I hope Google will do the same for Maps.
 
I've been using the beta for a while now and the maps functionality for where I am based in the uk (cheshire/manchester/liverpool) has been very good. I love the cartography and I have found positions of addresses more accurate and journey durations more realistic as well. Traffic is much better than google. I did miss public transport at first but the timetables included in the google implementation were never correct anyway. Sure there's going to be teething trouble (I feel sorry for anyone who lives in Birmingham the mapping certainly looks poor there) but in the longterm apple's implemation looks like a very promising solution.

In terms of POI's sure theres less than google at this moment in time but the service has gone into widespread use only yesterday. Please remember that apple uses yelp for points of interest. IF THERE ARE POINTS OF INTEREST MISSING DO EVERYONE A FAVOUR AND ADD THEM ON YELP. If everyone adds a couple of POI then this functionality will be on par with googles in no time! Remember google also relied on crowd sourcing for many of their POI's.

Simarly if there is a problem with the map rather than complain on hear use the report a problem feature built into the app.

Dude,

When searching for Pub in Guildford map - only comes with handful (literally a less than dozen). YELP has tons more (50+). So integration with YELP not functional.

Plus satellite quality in SE England, although good in places, Brighton absolutely awful.
 
I used the old map all the time. It didn't take long for me to realize the shortfalls of this apple version.

I searched for my doctor by name yesterday with the iOS 6 version of the map, "Dr _____ Forrester" in atlanta, something that worked flawlessly every time is Google Maps. iOS 6 took me to Forrester street in Mauritius... not cool.
 
Apples maps makes me scared to upgrade to ios6

I'm waiting for the jailbreak first, but this is the first time parts of an update are a downgrade from the previous version.

At least my blobs are saved, so I can always go back. Tinyumbrella and redsnow for the win.
 
Remember his MobileMe explosion? I believe it went something along the lines of "Well, why the F### doesn't it do that, then!?"

Someone at Apple needs to have that same conversation with the Mapping team.

TBH, I don't know anything about MobileMe. Never used it and couldn't care less about it.

All I'm saying was this was a calculated decision Apple had to make. They couldn't stay confined and limited by Google anymore. It'll start off worse, but will be better in the end.
 
The new map data is bad.

I just checked a site I've viewed before and what was a well developed business center has reverted back to undeveloped desert. That data has to be several years old.

Allowed this would not have been . . .
 
Google Maps SUCK TOO

Seriously?

Google has been doing this for how many years AND YET . . .

Our business has an ACTUAL LOG-IN to keep Google correct -- BUT -- they continuously over the past 5 years randomly move our location, get it mixed up with a competitor IN ANOTHER COUNTY and mix up our addresses, our "pin" locations, our phone numbers, etc. They are literally the NUMBER ONE guest complaint at our Marriott hotel -- and they do not respond to ANY INPUT -- even the actual login that they give us (which is still correct, yet ignored).

THEN -- we are on a U.S. Highway that goes all the way from Maine to Florida -- YET -- for two months the name changed from U.S. Highway 1 to Local Road West in all Google directions??? There is NO "Local Road West" to begin with!

I type in the name of our business or the address to our business and APPLE MAPS has it correct -- and they haven't even been told my me DOZENS OF TIMES (like I have Google) what our address is.

So, again seriously, Google has had 9 years and millions of users to get this right AND HAVE NOT. Apple has had like 9 months in comparison WHILE IN BETA.

Nothing like people being critical just to hear themselves TYPE.
 
I'm really excited Apple has stuck two fingers up to the naysayers and rolled out the new Maps app to the entire iOS universe. They need to start from somewhere, and this innovative mapping technology will improve the more we use it, and help improve it.

This is a good solid 1.0 release. Remember Google Maps has been going for several years and more. Google won't be laughing today. They know they are about to be eclipsed by Apple.

I believe it when I see a special car with "Apple" sign driving past my house. Until this happen, the chance of what you are predicting happening is zero.
 
It's ok guys. I created a new iPhone maps app. It's only beta but it appears to be on par with Apple Maps after only 5 minutes. A few more days and street view should be ok. Give me time please.

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Apple has over 100 billion dollars. Why don't they just buy Google Maps and overlay their UI on top of it? Why buy mapping data that is years old?

I think you are looking for the word "license"

Which is exactly what they were doing. Paid Google boatloads of money and in the end had absolutely no control, thus Google could keep the iOS offering less sophisticated than the Android offering giving Android the advantage (as they should do).

Apple in turn does what they should also do - that is create their own offering they can advance and innovate.
 
Here's how I think things went:

Apple goes to Google and wants to add turn-by-turn or make other changes/innovations to the mapping app. Google, of course, says no (don't fault them for that) as they have Apple at their mercy. At some point Apple looks at it and says, "Man we're paying Google a boatload of money for a mapping app we have no control over and can't advance." They weigh the pros and cons of creating their own app. Pros: Complete innovative control, CHEAPER, and yes it spites Google. Cons: polish, TIME and effort.

In the end Apple said pros outweigh the cons, got together a bunch of partners and went to work. The timing of their releases is relatively set and they decided to go ahead and release the maps app as soon as they felt they could as to cut ties with Google, and introduce new features as soon as possible.

It will take time. But Google Maps, aside from the data, hasn't been updated in forever. The loading mechanisms are slow and sometimes rendered the app useless. Apple decided to create their own vector-rendering system thereby giving the app a better base to build on. The data will come with time. It's taken Google AT LEAST 7 years (since that's only how long it's been out in the marketplace) to compile the data they have. Apple's app is in its infancy, but at least they are able to advance it on their own terms as opposed to being stuck under Google's thumb - unable to update the app as Google wanted to keep it an Android advantage.

I don't fault either company in any of this.

It's amazing how people just invent fairy stories to defend Apple here. We know *know* Google make a considerable amount of money from iOS apps. If Google were withholding features it's likely it's because they had changes of their own they wanted making in exchange that Apple wouldn't honour. It's notable that changes Google could do without Apple's assistance, such as adding transit navigation in London, have happened relatively recently. This is odd if Google were trying to withhold features.

Instead we get people coming up with reasons less plausible than "this isn't Apple's fault, as the new maps were sabotaged... by the EVIL SKELETOR!"
 
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