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So instead of making the Beats streaming service part iTunes Match Apple will keep on annoying us with ads when we purchase music from iTunes to sign up to Beats. Apple it is okay you got a long way until you get all of Spotify or Amazon Prime Music customers.

They haven't announced it yet and already people think it's not good enough.
 
10 bucks no way I'm lucky if i spend 1.29 per month on music ill listen to the radio for free first give me add supported i would rather that

Same here. I don't mind an advertising supported service for Free, thats how I use spotify and the ads are not obtrusive.
 
I think they said they would be offering the service free with ads (through iTunes Radio...Just like pandora and spotify.
Spotify isn't free for radio listeners only. It's free if you want to make your own choices as well. That's one of many reasons why Apple's offering can't compete.
 
As well as robbing the Artists that take the time to make the music.

And where do you think the revenue from ad goes? It's used to pay the artists. In fact, if you are a heavy "free" listener, you might indirectly "pay" more than $10 through ads.
 
I'm going to wait to see what sort of cut Apple will pay musicians. I already know Spotify pays micro-peanuts, which is why I refuse to support that service. Hopefully Apple will take the high road and pay a decent per-play royalty.

If it is $10 per month how much do you think they will pay?

By the way, 70% of revenue is peanuts?
 
Context is king - that argument becomes a non-starter once you realize that "going up" equates to the (estimated) 1.2million figure.

Vinyl is a fun little niche market, but even with dramatic sales increases over the past few years that is where it will always remain. It is sort of fun seeing a format like the LP which was released in 1948 refuse to die, but it will never be anything more then just a small speciality format going forward. With that said, the LP could outlive the CD. Who would have ever though that?
 
I'm going to wait to see what sort of cut Apple will pay musicians. I already know Spotify pays micro-peanuts, which is why I refuse to support that service. Hopefully Apple will take the high road and pay a decent per-play royalty.

uhm ... Spotify makes barely any money cuz they pay like 70 or 80% to the labels so the artists have to knock on their doors but of course they wont unless you are a huge artist who got the upper hand ... yes like Taylor Swift
 
Mostly interested in the revamped iOS 9 version of iTunes—seeing that that's what I mostly use these days.

And would it kill Apple to add native cross-fade funtionality to iOS iTunes?
 
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I'm sure many other Spotify users will too. It's a good service.

But Spotify only has 60 million users (and of those... only 15 million who actually pay for the service)

So perhaps Apple is targeting the 500+ million people who have never used any streaming service at all. The market for new streaming customers is ripe for the picking.

You're not alone... there are lots of people saying "I'm not gonna switch"

Well maybe this announcement isn't about you :)

And maybe people will switch. After all, how many Mac users used to be frustrated Windows users? If Apple can deliver a genuinely better product, so that people put aside their biases and pick it because it's so good, people will switch. :)
 
I know it's unofficial; I wonder where this leaves Music Match subscribers. I've only used it for storing my music offsite, but lately I've started to use their radio station(s). I will not be amused if Match is scrapped or gutted to a shell of its current functionality just to push Beats.
 
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uhm ... Spotify makes barely any money cuz they pay like 70 or 80% to the labels so the artists have to knock on their doors but of course they wont unless you are a huge artist who got the upper hand ... yes like Taylor Swift

I'm still trying to wrap my head around how and why she is successful.
 
Spotify's version of "Free" Sucks! The audio quality is reduced, plus you have ads.
The audio quality is fine. And the single ad plays for 15 seconds every 5 or 6 songs. I'll take that hardship for free. There's also no ads if you know how to install adblocker on your browser.
 
Nope. I prefer to buy once and be done with it. No connectivity required once you have the music downloaded.

theres no connectivity required to listen to spotify ;) also buying music makes no sense to me. i can barely listen to a whole album more than once nowadays and Spotify helps me to discover artists and songs i would have never heard of otherwise
 
I'm constantly surprised by iTunes Radio. For the most part the station I made based off Surgeon [1] (well known Techno producer/dj) has been pretty much exactly what I expect. Also made another stations off Rank 1 [2] (older well known Trance producer/dj) and has also been pretty good with only needing to tweak it a little bit. iTunes Radio solves the "I just want to listen to (genre) but don't want to pick out what songs". Also with a 16gb iphone the amount of songs on there slowly goes down because apps keep getting bigger and bigger.

As for actual purchases, I still either buy CDs or bandcamp since I can download the FLAC version so in 10 years when some new audio format comes out I can just reencode everything and not have to ensure compatibility with the now ancient MP3 format.

1: https://itunes.apple.com/us/station/surgeon-radio/idst.459659338
2: https://itunes.apple.com/us/station/rank-1-radio/idst.330511919
 
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And maybe people will switch. After all, how many Mac users used to be frustrated Windows users? If Apple can deliver a genuinely better product, so that people put aside their biases and pick it because it's so good, people will switch. :)

Oh I'm sure there will be some Spotify customers who will switch.

But Spotify is supposedly the biggest and best music streaming service... yet 60 million users sounds small.

I was just thinking Apple might be better off trying to convince more non-Spotify users to sign up for Apple Music. There are a lot more of them!
 
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I was just thinking Apple might be better off trying to convince more non-Spotify users to sign up for Apple Music. There are a lot more of them!

To me spotify is a different service. Spotify lets you pick an album and listen to just that album. Similar to (up until recently) Amazon Prime Music. iTunes Radio does the "play music related to (genre, artist, song)" which is how Pandora is setup (and recently Amazon Prime Music added streaming stations). It would be better if Apple went after the Pandora users and left the Spotify people alone, unless this new service will let you pick songs/albums you want to listen to.
 
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