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Apple's Notebook Sales Drop to Estimated 2.5M as Buyers Await New MacBook Pro
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Stop being negative mate, I read only this afternoon that Apple doesn't sell hardware, it sells experiences... oh yes!!!!
Riding the crest of the wave of the most successful company of recent times is not always rewarded as a user when the basis of success is highly dependent on popularity in a niche sandbox.
Apple products have never been cheap for many reasons but non more so than it's consumer base
Apple exploited a desperate market in the US due to it's more unique set-up of restrictive practices of it's telco providers
Apples clever marketing in the US was echoed around the world via the internet due to a US dominance of presence in the English speaking community
Apples success steamrolled other products over it's competition
Apple ECO is a double edged sword
Apples US based model is not as easily transcribed across the world
Apple fashion status is victim of it's own successes
Apple core foundation is neglected as diversity increases and shifts
Apple innovation is hard to continuously repeat
What ever had drawn you to OSX/MACS, 5/10/15 years past, be it the underdog with unique and boutique appeal or a fresh style/appeal to consumer comms and laptops of recent times cannot keep pace with the ability of others to catch up and surpass in a market where the latest has a lifespan of <12 months
Of cause this is all PHD in stating the obviousand many are happy all be it possibly with indifference or ignorance
I think what is different about Apple is the polices between devices and services that includes upgrades and new releases are cleverly constructed to increase yields with less perceive value to it's consumer or have catches and induced restraints to propagate purchases and worst still to those that feel they supported Apple over the years and had a connection now feel detached to the new Apple monster driven by other factors than it's once more true values led by one man.
Straight up, IMHO the Mac & OS X will remain to be mediocre as long as it remains to play "second fiddle" to iToys.
IOS devices are Apple`s centre of focus, cheaper to design, cheaper to produce, easier to extract excessive margin, simple as that, Apple`s greed is simply staggering...
Very much agree the original soul of Apple is virtually extinct, with the current execs serving solely AAPL, rather than the customer, which neatly brings us back to declining sales, as said before no surprise here...
Right now, we are "shifting gears" to Widows based hardware; my wife`s company & my brother in-law`s have switched to Lenovo as all concerned parties concluded that Apple is no longer relevant. For my own consulting needs Apple may prevail, with the rMB, rMBP - remains to be seen.
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Cheaper as in not the latest or same parts for the last 8 years, I presume ? unless you want a new logic board of course for your 4 year old laptop
One demographic we also have no feel for is all the recycled 1-2 year old IPhone's what do the US Teleco's do with these or their agents ?
I've noticed a lot of tech companies have left certain product lines in the dust the last few years, many of them their core products in years past. Maybe sales are good for those new products, but they are alienating their longtime customers. Not a good way to do business in my opinion. Short term greed will ultimately cause them to fail. I think maybe it is time for new management.
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15" MBP is getting kinda long in the tooth, if I could upgrade past 8 GB of RAM it would be sooooo much more livable
The current lineup is vastly superior to your old 2011 MBP. You seem like you're trying to justify the fact that you're outdated.
It's the people with newer models who shouldn't update, but when your laptop is 5 years old you're not the topic of any of this.
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Tim Cook has done a great job, frankly. Falling apart? Do you call being the most valuable company in the world as of a few months ago, and occasionally switching with Google in that position, as "falling apart"? Lol, you are delusional.
What do you expect? A brand new MBP every 6 months even though Skylake was delayed to hell and back? Even if they were to refresh them that often it would be a waste of money to buy them.
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Ok. So my buddy was ranting about these Dell XPS's to me for ages and my reaction was pretty much...- pffftt...Delll.
But then I saw them in the flesh.......stunning machines. And cutting edge spec - especially compared to current MBP
The price difference is nothing to sneeze at. Ive been interested in something new and I'm just starting to test keyboards and trackpads on laptops. I hate buying something unseen.
They both have their pros nod cons. I personally prefer the specs of the MBP for my personal needs even though it might be an older architecture.
Thing is the experience fades lol. IMO this ties to their shortage of company software. yes I am a bitter aperture owner. It was nice to have the apple os, the apple pic picture editor mesh just right (look and feel). the whole mac experience....and a competent editor to boot. Not as powerful for say batching..but I never had to batch 100+ photos so all good.
Apple is pawning us off to 3rd party slowly and by an large mac software is just ported windows stuff. SSDS (same stuff different system). As the software experience is now generic....well OS experience can become a non factor. My take on it. When I open up say DxO (what I went to after aperture) its all I see in full screen mode. I don't see the OS screens. Windows is ugly (the usual qualitative hit made)...open up application full screen you won't even see it.
Could people here please give me a guess about the price of macbook pro in next release with max option? I'm interesting about the big screen size now...
I hope the MBP specs will be not reduced...by the thinest design!!!!
I hope the MBP specs will be not reduced...by the thinest design!!!!
Yep, that's my feeling, I think we also have design changes in OS X, that were came from iOS as well. I think Apple enjoyed a halo affect of people getting interested in Macs because of the iPhones, but now that the competition has caught up with some stunning designs and high quality computers, Apple doesn't have it as easy. throw in the fact that their update cycle has been behind the curve and we see these numbers.
Not just Dell, the HP Spectre looks absolutely gorgeous. I'm so tempted for that machine, even though I don't need a new laptop
As I stated no surprises here, Windows OEM`s are really starting to produce some very compelling hardware, and Microsoft is also commited to providing a solid platform. Personally I am very impressed with W10, it`s far from perfect, equally to coin a phrase "it just works" and in many respects outperforms OS X significantly.
On the other hand it`s clear that Apple is no longer deeply invested in the Mac, with updates simply not being meaningful, even the upcoming 2016 models I am only expecting what adds up to be more or less a cosmetic makeover, with the only additional feature being TB3 if we are lucky. Add in OS X`s being in near permeant Beta state, really makes Apple a far harder sell than previous.
Tim Cook`s stance regarding the Mac is abundantly clear, with this style of leadership, we should not be surprised that the Mac is the neglected child of Apple, nor will things improve until the management changes. I do question myself, why support a company that does not place the computer first or equal, as they are only likely to offer mediocre, dull, unexciting products. Mac`s right now only make sense if they are heavily discounted...
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Unfortunately, I agree with you.
Another concern which has crossed my mind is that it has been the success of Apple with their hardware and software design which has pushed competitors to up their game (ie Microsoft with Windows, and HP, Dell etc. with their hardware). We need Apple to remain competitive so that Microsoft, HP, Dell... aren't able to rest on their laurels any time in the future.
Competition within an industry is generally a very healthy thing for consumers as it improves quality and pushes down prices more effectively than one company having a monopoly.
One of the major problems is that Apple holds a monopoly on OS X hardware, so they just serve up what works best for Apple, rather than the consumer, as Apple has no real incentive. Thankfully Microsoft responded to it`s customers with W10 being a decent platform, albeit still young. This may hopefully give some incentive for Apple to fix the tragedy that OS X currently is for many of it`s users.
Certainly after 10.10 & 10.11 I am now far less invested in Apple & OS X. From my own observations, usage & workflow I am see a reversal where Windows is becoming fast & stable, while OS X is becoming slow & bloated, with numerous stability/connectivity issues.
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Fair enough - each to their own. Recently thinking about iOS development for the first time so I'm swinging back twoards a new MB - it will depend on whether they reveal something great or not at WWDC !
Don't know it but will check in out. Though.....ugh.....HP.....
Wait until you see the current HP machines in the flesh. My wife has this HP laptop and it is lovely: lightweight, fast, near silent, good keyboard.
I bought an All in One for the wife and she's happy with the computer. Solid, fast computer. I have no complaints over the quality of the computer.
Where?! The only sales I've seen are for *last* year's models, which is not unexpected. It'd be great to find out where one can get the 2016 MacBook at a sales price...
From what I can tell, people are buying them-- they certainly are among the most appealing, elegant laptops Apple's ever designed. The 2 lb. lightweight device is wonderful to hold and carry, it has a beautiful screen, innovative keyboard, gorgeous colors, high RAM and SSD (8gb, 256 gb base are new for Apple) and it all makes for an attractive package. We'd buy one in a heartbeat if they were on sale or if the palm rest weren't so small. I'll wager that a 13-14" version with a 2nd port and a higher spec'd FaceTime camera are in the works.
There were a bunch this weekend. The usual suspects are MacMall and B&N, but I've seen Best Buy drop prices 50-100 bucks a couple times in the last month. As you point out though, make sure it's the 2016 model, not the 2015, which can be found for as little as 899 right now.
Yes, it's a beautiful little laptop with a gorgeous screen. It's also woefully underpowered for anything besides web surfing and word processing. Basically it's the 2015-16 version of my much loved and missed Samsung NC10 netbook, only for more than three times the price tag. I tried one out for a month and while I really wanted to like it given it's size and sexiness, the lack of power for anything but iPhone/iPad-level photo and video editing combined with the single USB/charging port ruined it for me. Actually all of that, plus a horrible (you called it "innovative," yeah not so much) keyboard and a ridiculous price point (1,299-1,599 retail) are the reason why there are so many 2015 units on sale, which you pointed out above without realizing it proves my point about these things *not* selling. Even after deep discounts, most 3rd party sellers are still flush with 2015 stock, and that's not a good sign as to the popularity and demand of the Macbook. In years past, you usually had a couple weeks tops to pick up a discounted previous model from Best Buy before they were gone, but as of this weekend, my local BB has just as many 15's in the cage as 16's.