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Except the manner Apple used to do so is actually illegal under US antitrust laws for companies deemed to have a monopoly position in their market. Also, companies aren't allowed to leverage a monopoly position in one market to impede competition in another. These emails clearly reveal Apple did this for their music app and service.
That’s your interpretation. Until they are convicted without any appeal recourse we cannot clearly say that they have done this or that illegal. Unless you presume guilt until proven innocent?
 
Except the manner Apple used to do so is actually illegal under US antitrust laws for companies deemed to have a monopoly position in their market. Also, companies aren't allowed to leverage a monopoly position in one market to impede competition in another. These emails clearly reveal Apple did this for their music app and service.
Please describe the monopolistic actions that were taken. Having specific quotes from a discussion does not show what the actual actions were.
Go to any brainstorming session and lots of bizarre ideas get floated. Most of them end up in the waste bin. Not sure if there is anything to see here.
 
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Lock in with gift cards!!! Oh noes!

Epic tries to lock you in to Fortnite by only allowing me to use their characters and not allowing alternative pay systems in their game. Epic…locking everyone in.
 
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One small thing to remember, the talk of side loading was before the advent of side channel attacks.

"Don't try to sandbox your application; That is impossible. Only remember the truth."

"What is that?"

"There is no sandbox."
 
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They are doing the job that they should do, so not surprised. On the other hand what is not nice is that depending on their needs/worries, they can adjust the App Store commission depending on the developer :(. Also, this makes clear what more or less everyone knows, App Store is full of crap.

I expend last 4 months working on my first App Store game, maybe not the best time to read this docs :D
 
Internal discussions may reveal planning and scheming behind what later was implemented and the key actions, products and processes of the legal action. So not dirty laundry but proof that what later transpired was not an accident. Normal business stuff that happens every day that becomes potentially key evidence when things go to court.
Wonder when we will be to see all these internal documents from Epics …

when businesses need to start being careful what is being discussed internally, growth plans, new products etc etc …
 
Except the manner Apple used to do so is actually illegal under US antitrust laws for companies deemed to have a monopoly position in their market. Also, companies aren't allowed to leverage a monopoly position in one market to impede competition in another. These emails clearly reveal Apple did this for their music app and service.
Let the court decide, if it even comes to that point, or are you a antitrust lawyer?
 
This is extremely interesting and revealing. Keep it coming. Squirm Cook squirm...
I don't think Cook is squirming. In fact, I can't think of one business under the sun, where the company would not want to get more business from it's customers. In fact, everything that was "revealed" seemed to me to be basic let's do what we can to expand our business.
 
What does billionaire have to do with anything? Please provide your proof that people aren't going to give up their Apple devices.
People do give up their apple devices, they also give up their samsung devices, lg devices, sony devices, etc. IMO, this testimony amounts to a hill of beans except for the entertainment value.
 
Wow! Atleast with this legal battle we’re getting to see the dirt.

I recall watching the app ratings for Yosemite hovering in the 1.5 range for a long time, with pretty strong critiques on the minimalist UI aesthetics that were a large leap from Mavericks…only to see the ratings slowly morph up closer to 4… How likely was that a natural occurrence without Apple interjecting into the ratings system…
 
Except the manner Apple used to do so is actually illegal under US antitrust laws for companies deemed to have a monopoly position in their market. Also, companies aren't allowed to leverage a monopoly position in one market to impede competition in another. These emails clearly reveal Apple did this for their music app and service.
But it's not. And to keep saying that shows how much you don't understand or are willfully ignorant of US Antitrust laws. Apple has not been "deemed" to have a "monopoly" in any market and probably won't be under any of the current laws. Which is why congress has their knickers in a wad trying to narrowly tailor new laws to ensnare them.
 
I don't think Cook is squirming. In fact, I can't think of one business under the sun, where the company would not want to get more business from it's customers. In fact, everything that was "revealed" seemed to me to be basic let's do what we can to expand our business.

For the most part, I can’t help but agree.

What gets squirrelly to me is when it seems like Apple prioritizes revenue over truly great products and customer satisfaction. How long will it take them to combine iPad/Macs into a dual-boot ipad with magic keyboard, for instance, even if in Mac/OS mode, the screen is not touchable? The new iMac is practically an oversize iPad Pro on a stick with external keyboard already.
 
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Except the manner Apple used to do so is actually illegal under US antitrust laws for companies deemed to have a monopoly position in their market. Also, companies aren't allowed to leverage a monopoly position in one market to impede competition in another. These emails clearly reveal Apple did this for their music app and service.
And this is where I get lost on this. A company earns a monopoly position by being the best, right? So then they are supposed to allow others who don't do the *whatever* as well a space on their platform the orginal company created to then try and takeover their spot? If Epic built a phone and people bought it and played fortnight there, would this be a thing?
 
What does billionaire have to do with anything? Please provide your proof that people aren't going to give up their Apple devices.
Because they are not going to dump their Apple products and go with what Android? and have no ecosystem or have to use a Windows piece of crap...Isn't that what "PC" stands for? What else is there? After all of the people "dump" their Apple products there will be nobody here except the Apple haters.
 
This is extremely interesting and revealing. Keep it coming. Squirm Cook squirm...
Come on, this is the same S**T that goes one in every corporate boardroom and C suite meeting. I have worked in major finance corporations over 35 years and major Ad agency's for almost 10 years and this is normal business..."BAU" business as usual.
 
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Except the manner Apple used to do so is actually illegal under US antitrust laws for companies deemed to have a monopoly position in their market. Also, companies aren't allowed to leverage a monopoly position in one market to impede competition in another. These emails clearly reveal Apple did this for their music app and service.
Except that hasn't been the case, which is why there is this pending legislation. The legal eagles will have to sort out the question of the app store being a monopoly. And whether or not anything is clearly revealed will be at the discretion of the legal system.
 
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But it's not. And to keep saying that shows how much you don't understand or are willfully ignorant of US Antitrust laws. Apple has not been "deemed" to have a "monopoly" in any market and probably won't be under any of the current laws.
"Apple has significant and durable market power in the market for mobile operating systems and mobile app stores, both of which are highly concentrated. Apple’s iOS mobile operating system is one of two dominant mobile operating systems, along with Google’s Android, in the U.S. and globally. Apple installs iOS on all Apple mobile devices and does not license iOS to other mobile device manufacturers. More than half of mobile devices in the U.S. run on iOS or iPadOS, an iOS derivation for tablets introduced in 2019. Apple’s market power is durable due to high switching costs, ecosystem lock-in, and brand loyalty. It is unlikely that there will be successful market entry to contest the dominance of iOS and Android.

As a result, Apples control over iOS provides it with gatekeeper power over software distribution on iOS devices. Consequently, it has a dominant position in the mobile app store market and monopoly power over distribution of software applications on iOS devices."

Source: Investigation of Competition in Digital Markets, Congressional Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial, and Administrative Law
 
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