In the end, all of Big Tech is coming under increasing coercion from the surveillance state to undermine their users' 'human right' to privacy. They can try all the spin in the world but, when pushed, every single one of them, Apple included, will buckle. Probably already have. In 2024 I trust Apple no more or no less than anyone else.
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Apple's Privacy Team Does Deep Dive Into iOS 18 Privacy Features
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That is exactly what is wrong with Apple now.
With enough money, they even sold their soul to the devil.
It is the principle of being flexible with our privacy.
Do we want to find out what else are they selling?
Integrity is something that I value greatly and shall not be for sale.
So apple makes billions to make google the default which literally doesn’t affect you because you cAn change it.
I hate google but even I’m not this…..fanatical. Integrity. It’s a phone manufacturer. It literally is not that the deep.
You literally can change the default search.
I really find it hard to understand when people are soooo concerned about something that they have 100% control of. Regardless if Apple do some things on a way that they can PR themselves out of, an OS manufacturer who are actually making money off of searching through every single email or track where you are at any or every given time are given a complete pass. The funniest of them all is when someone says "Android allow this particular security feature". Do they not see the irony?
Yeah, not sure we believe you with the whole privacy is a right jargon, just more of a sales pitch which just is not true. More secure, yes. Doesn't mean you have it ALL shut down. Tim get botox recently? That pic, reminds me he and Ellen are looking more and more like twins daily. Maybe it's just me 
Tim Apple can prove that what he says is true. First step - ditch everything Google, all infrastructure + API Apple is utilizing. Allow full functionality of iDevices without log-in to iCloud like many, many years ago.
Until then it's just PR bollock$. Apple is still the best at limiting snooping thingy, but everybody does it.
Until then it's just PR bollock$. Apple is still the best at limiting snooping thingy, but everybody does it.
Apple has admitted to eavesdropping on our Siri conversations, and they announced about two years ago that they would be scanning all of our photos on iCloud to find certain illegal content. The process would even include Apple employees reviewing user photos. At some point, they even attempted to launch their own social media platform (anyone remember Ping?), which would inherently be based on collecting user data. Also, recently, a bug caused the recovery of supposedly deleted photos on iCloud. They also rent cloud space from companies like Google since they don't have enough data centers themselves, so a lot of our unencrypted data is stored on the premises of non-privacy-forward companies. I mean, sure, do I slightly rank Apple higher when it comes to privacy compared to other tech companies? Yes. Do I buy into the hype of how privacy-forward they are? Hell no.
That doesn't mean you lose it. Disregarding that a lot of privacy is/should be built into the OS and sandboxing what apps can access, alternate app stores is an option. E.g. I'm hoping for apps for streaming games (e.g. from MS Gamepass and Nvidia GeForce Now) - apps that Apple didn't allow because they could hurt app store sales.
Interesting take.
Siri recordings were NOT attached to your ID and were used to determine false activations, and it has improved. Also Apple FIXED that issue. But compare that to that of Google or Alexa currently.
If you watched the video, the images were images that were simply ones that got caught in a corrupted index. Apple are now making a folder that shows images that get found in a reindexing. This explains it on the Verge
More here https://www.macrumors.com/2021/06/29/icloud-data-stored-on-google-cloud-increasing/
Siri recordings were NOT attached to your ID and were used to determine false activations, and it has improved. Also Apple FIXED that issue. But compare that to that of Google or Alexa currently.
It was 5 years ago, and all images are available with subpoena for ALL cloud services currently, not just Apple. Apple was going to use the Data Hash on the phone, to protect the privacy of the individual. No images were looked at. Exact opposite of what you are saying. I 100% dispute that Apple employees were reviewing photos. That's straight out false. Google also currently scrape the content of every Gmail to use for adverts etc... so there is that.
No it was based on users finding music and artists they liked. Something like Spotify WITHOUT the data theft.
If you watched the video, the images were images that were simply ones that got caught in a corrupted index. Apple are now making a folder that shows images that get found in a reindexing. This explains it on the Verge
This is news to me. Apple storing unencrypted data on Google servers. They also use AWS
More here https://www.macrumors.com/2021/06/29/icloud-data-stored-on-google-cloud-increasing/
Apple does not provide third-party cloud storage providers with the keys to decrypt user data stored on their servers, ensuring a strong level of security
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Indeed he does… I think when all those multi billionaires go to their annual holiday camp they get "treatments" thrown in as part of the deal.Yeah, not sure we believe you with the whole privacy is a right jargon, just more of a sales pitch which just is not true. More secure, yes. Doesn't mean you have it ALL shut down. Tim get botox recently? That pic, reminds me he and Ellen are looking more and more like twins daily. Maybe it's just me
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cool. Can we get multiple user profiles? Would be nice to have completely separate user spaces. Thank you.
When someone spies on you in the swimming pool changing room, they don't know your ID/name but your privacy is still violated.
And yet there is a difference between an apple picker and a harvesting machine.
Where to start...
The mere fact that app developers are obliged to report their spying is a huge step forward and gives you as a customer the opportunity to make a choice.
Before, you didn't even know that the innocent game was selling all your data to the Chinese.
It's like the ingredients on food labels. Hardly anyone reads it. But those who do read it realise how they are sometimes stuffed full of sugar, salt and potential toxins.
Secondly:
Did you know that you don't have to give an app access to the camera or Bluetooth? Did you know that you can use an app even if you block its requests?
This also didn't exist in the past and still doesn't on Android. With iOS, you can use an app without granting permissions.
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And we're not even talking about all the functions that are designed so that no data is collected at all. Like the Find my network, for example. Or the way Apple Maps navigates. Or the fact that photos are catagolised on the device. And, and, and...
A thousand things that users don't even see.
Which the competition such as Google or Microsoft capitalise on.
"The user doesn't see how we exploit him, so he thinks we don't either."
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And here we come to the point of personal responsibility.
Data protection is always a double-edged sword.
That's why Apple can't ban everything. Instead, you as a user have to think a little and consider for yourself whether the chess game really needs access to the camera and location data.
I know enough people - especially Americans - who faithfully click on "Allow" and then would love to sue Apple for a lack of data protection. That's not how it works.
Compared to Android, Windows or even the standard Linux, Apple really does a lot. But that doesn't mean that you as a user can stop taking responsibility.
Privacy theater, just like all those apps that ask if you want to allow paste after you select paste. Also all these websites that ask if it ok to collect cookies, some do it every time you visit. I just want an option to turn off all these unnecessary prompts.
Probably a better analogy is someone telling you there is someone in the change room but you don’t know who it is.
I call maximum BS. In jailbroken iOS 14.8 and earlier releases, you could inspect the application directories and read the application files to see if any logging was going on. Guess what? They all did it. Just to name a few things that got logged: user name, iOS version, access times, app usage, geolocation data, walking/driving, iPhone UDID, IP address and of course google-analytics.
There is even an app called AppFirewall that intercepts outbound connections from applications. Both telemetry and logging.
Do I believe that things have changed since iOS 14.8? No, I do not. You would really have to be a moron in this day an age.
.There is even an app called AppFirewall that intercepts outbound connections from applications. Both telemetry and logging.
Do I believe that things have changed since iOS 14.8? No, I do not. You would really have to be a moron in this day an age.
“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.” ― Abraham Lincoln
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My point is 99% of users do not know anything and assume Apple is keeping them safe. Nobody is doing research, watching videos like this, or anything at all.
If the OK button included a warning about loss of privacy and data harvesting, you'd have a point. But I'm sure it wont. They will bury that stuff in the EULA that nobody reads.
So Apple is helping erode privacy in the name of convenience
Again, continue to miss the point.
What else are they selling out about our privacy, if they can compromise on this one simple thing for a price?
Well... there you go again... telling truths.
Heads exploding from people reading this are causing earthquakes and tsunamis around the world.
Head for the hills!