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Oh, come on! The Apple Watch is also a touch screen, but you are not doing a PowerPoint presentation on that are you? Wildly different use cases for each device class and the fact is you just don’t see many touchscreen laptops out in the wild even though the tech has been around for a long time. Most people just don’t like dirty screens on a laptop (or stationary) monitor, but those same people will tolerate it for a handheld device.
Not "on that", but I can definitely grab a docking station or an HDMI cable + dongle and cast it to a larger monitor, effectively making the phone a daily driver.

I personally don't like that option, but hey, it's a possibility.
 
Tim Cook should demote himself to CFO /COO and bring in someone as CEO who knows how to create new market segments. He's a great bean counter / ops guy, not a technologist. Great engineering companies need a CEO who can do both, like Jensen Huang if NVidia.

Apple is a great company and Cook is an outstanding leader. Apple's massive success and roughly a billion active customers, many repeat, speaks for itself.

As do Apple's 170,000 employees who were not subject to massive layoffs as so many other tech companies were (which is *still* happening). Many people conveniently forget Cook also holds an engineering degree in addition to his MBA. Is Cook a coder, or chip designer? Nope. But he certainly understands tapping new markets and technology.
 
Not "on that", but I can definitely grab a docking station or an HDMI cable + dongle and cast it to a larger monitor, effectively making the phone a daily driver.

I personally don't like that option, but hey, it's a possibility.
The point is you probably care if the screen you are casting to in that case is dirty way more that if the screen on the phone you are casting from is dirty.
 
Bill Gates? The guy who ripped Apple off decades ago? The man now thinks he’s an expert in human health pushing his plant-based propaganda meanwhile his body habitus is androgynous, to be kind.


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From what I know, Apple and MS copied (or as you said, ripped) from Xerox. But at the end, Steve Jobs and Bill Gates took those ideas to another level. Thats the reason macOS and Windows still dominating the computer market.

Regarding his health expertise, I have don't have any idea of it, neither I care.
 
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The point is you probably care if the screen you are casting to in that case is dirty way more that if the screen on the phone you are casting from is dirty.

I'm... not sure I get your point?
If I'm giving a presentation to 40+ people, I'm probably casting my cell phone to a TV, which probably will be a non-touch device.

But if even so the screen is dirty, I can just... you know, wipe it with 100% cloth fabric?
 
There has been no big innovation on iPads except for the release of 2018 iPad Pros, the Air 4, Apple Pencil and Magic Keyboard.

For most people, they do 99 percent of what most iPad buying people want.

M1, M2… what’s the point of these in iPad if the OS is the same as a decade ago in terms of what it can do.
I’d say 99.999%. Unfortunately I can’t run that tentpole GameCube game, Resident Evil 4. 😉
 
Lol. Me thinks you might be trolling...

Stagnant? Are you kidding?! You call a whole new hardware architecture stagnant? Multiple new product categories stagnant? One of the largest (if not the largest) growth runs in corporate history, both in terms of revenue and hiring stagnant? There's nothing stagnant about Apple under Cook.

So, again, I ask...who is this visionary that should lead Apple? You keep claiming Apple needs a visionary. So, who would you choose? Who do you think would do a better job than Cook?

I'm not researching the Chinese audio market in hopes of finding something innovative. You keep telling us Apple isn't innovate, so name some innovative companies who are doing better work than Apple. Should be easy for you.

So you refuse to actively consider my comments and instead choose to double down on your original statement and add a bunch of irrelevant nonsense to boot?

I don’t have a specific candidate in mind but that isn’t the point. The point is that Tim Cook is not especially interested in design and innovation.
 
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It doesn't disprove anything. Economic circumstances are real. As are people delaying decisions to update their tech. Simply open your eyes and look around at the health of other tech companies and their massive layoffs and resulting performance.

Regarding Ive somehow causing Apple's demise, that's merely your opinion and not worth very much.

I didn’t claim Apple had experienced a demise. I said that under Cook innovation has clearly not been a priority. And again, Ive is an example of why this comment is accurate.
 
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what has Jony done since he left Apple? I'm genuinely curious. I know he made an emblem for King Charles. A folding red nose for comic relief and a $64K record player. I know AirBnB and Ferrari are LoveFrom clients, so maybe it's hiding in plain sight.

No offense, but one of the most innovative things Apple has done this year is getting rid of the Touch Bar MBP he designed.

Not relevant. The point is that Apple, a design focused company, has failed to include a top flight designer in their leadership.
 
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I'm... not sure I get your point?
If I'm giving a presentation to 40+ people, I'm probably casting my cell phone to a TV, which probably will be a non-touch device.

But if even so the screen is dirty, I can just... you know, wipe it with 100% cloth fabric?
Oh, come on! The Apple Watch is also a touch screen, but you are not doing a PowerPoint presentation on that are you? Wildly different use cases for each device class and the fact is you just don’t see many touchscreen laptops out in the wild even though the tech has been around for a long time. Most people just don’t like dirty screens on a laptop (or stationary) monitor, but those same people will tolerate it for a handheld device.
The point. Your response to eropko conflated laptop devices with handheld devices.
 
Everything that goes up must come down, unless Apple find ways to generate new interest in their products. I’m certainly not that excited anymore. Perhaps it’s just age.
Valid statement. Now north of 50, I have to be mindful where I spend as Father Time knocks louder. Plus, what I have works. Just a scrub having fun.
 
All that money and yet iPad Pro with iPadOS is still just overpowered consumption device and not a true laptop replacement with close to 1:1 parity with MacOS apps.
 
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I didn’t claim Apple had experienced a demise. I said that under Cook innovation has clearly not been a priority. And again, Ive is an example of why this comment is accurate.

Of course it hasn't been a priority. During the pandemic and resulting economic downturn, Cook's number one priority was keeping Apple's 160,000 employees employed, while just about every other large tech company was laying off many thousands of employees.

That said, AVP certainly qualifies as an innovative product. At least for those who understand the difference between VR and AR/XR (many here don't) and understand the markets and potential.

With respect to recent times, I'd also include iPhone now incorporating worldwide SOS emergency communications using a satellite network, which has already saved lives of Apple iPhone owners.

Many here sling the word innovation around without even being able muster up even a wee bit of imagination suggesting what that could possibly be. Other than something mice-nuts and lame that Apple has already considered and decided to not pursue, such as MacOS running on an iPad.

Perhaps you can come up with a half dozen truly innovative product ideas that would be worth a large investment in both $ and Apple resources? Should be easy, right?
 
Everything you need to know about Tim Cook's Apple was summed up in the Apple Watch S3.
 
Of course it hasn't been a priority. During the pandemic and resulting economic downturn, Cook's number one priority was keeping Apple's 160,000 employees employed, while just about every other large tech company was laying off many thousands of employees.

That said, AVP certainly qualifies as an innovative product. At least for those who understand the difference between VR and AR/XR (many here don't) and understand the markets and potential.

With respect to recent times, I'd also include iPhone now incorporating worldwide SOS emergency communications using a satellite network, which has already saved lives of Apple iPhone owners.

Many here sling the word innovation around without even being able muster up even a wee bit of imagination suggesting what that could possibly be. Other than something mice-nuts and lame that Apple has already considered and decided to not pursue, such as MacOS running on an iPad.

Perhaps you can come up with a half dozen truly innovative product ideas that would be worth a large investment in both $ and Apple resources? Should be easy, right?

The pandemic has only been around for a small part of Cook’s tenure. That isn’t a rebuttal. Cook clearly doesn’t prioritize design and innovation.

As far as the Vision Pro goes, no, it’s not especially innovative. If anything it appears to be headed for Newton status.
 
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screed has absolutely has nothing to do with what I wrote
Yeah that was just too many words to get lost in, wasn't it? My mistake, I should have drawn you an accompanying diagram, maybe with crayons, or put it in meme format.

TIM CUKE = OK
IZ ALL HOMOFOBEA = NOT OK
ABBLE BRODUCS = CUD BE BETTA
CONKLOOZUN: GIT PRODUKT GUY PLOX KTHXBYE

Better?
 
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Tim Cook should demote himself to CFO /COO and bring in someone as CEO who knows how to create new market segments. He's a great bean counter / ops guy, not a technologist. Great engineering companies need a CEO who can do both, like Jensen Huang if NVidia.

During his tenure, apple launched the watch, AirPods, its own chipset, and a $85B (ttm) services business.
 
Yeah that was just too many words to get lost in, wasn't it? My mistake, I should have drawn you an accompanying diagram, maybe with crayons, or put it in meme format.

TIM CUKE = OK
IZ ALL HOMOFOBEA = NOT OK
ABBLE BRODUCS = CUD BE BETTA
CONKLOOZUN: GIT PRODUKT GUY PLOX KTHXBYE

Better?

No, just inane. Expected.
 
Giving customers every niche feature ≠ value to shareholders.

A CEO is also in charge of cost optimization, mergers/acquisitions and capital management. None of those things require the CEO to increase sales volumes, at all costs.
While you speak mostly about, and in favour of CEO responsibilities to shareholders, I’m about a CEO responsibility to consumer, who are the ones who enable the value in the first place. And, forget about niche features; no one is talking about that. You’re bringing that up to justify your position.
 
Not relevant. The point is that Apple, a design focused company, has failed to include a top flight designer in their leadership.
Not relevant to you, but to those bemoaning Ive's departure. I personally miss Evans Hankey most. But please do tell us about a relevant top flight designer that can innovate Apple's hardware?
 
Valid statement. Now north of 50, I have to be mindful where I spend as Father Time knocks louder. Plus, what I have works. Just a scrub having fun.
👍👍. I have 4, two of whom got/are getting phones this year and their own SIM cards. First got my 12 Mini, second gets the SE I’m currently using when my 15PM arrives. Next one is 4 years away, so I’m aiming for 4-5 years with the 15PM.
 
Not relevant to you, but to those bemoaning Ive's departure. I personally miss Evans Hankey most. But please do tell us about a relevant top flight designer that can innovate Apple's hardware?

We see how their design division is structured now. They design by committee. There is no single visionary behind the overall direction of the software or hardware. That’s a problem.
 
Not relevant to you, but to those bemoaning Ive's departure. I personally miss Evans Hankey most. But please do tell us about a relevant top flight designer that can innovate Apple's hardware?

You'll likely hear crickets on that. Or some hand-waving obfuscation about how design is structured at Apple (despite having zero demonstrable inside knowledge).

It's kind of like the hackneyed and tired (and apparently crowd-pleasing) whine "Apple doesn't innovate anymore." Yet when asked for a handful of innovation suggestions it's crickets again. Or maybe something lame, and hardly innovative, like simply porting MacOS to iPad, which Apple considered and rejected long ago.

In the end it's Apple's roughly 1 Billion active customers, many repeat, that speaks to Apple's massive success and with that, the ability to innovate (causing customers to keep purchasing Apple products - year after year after year). That massive success apparently irritates some people - which is pretty silly. And also speaks volumes.
 
I'm in two minds about this, because I believe Apple (the hardware company) has been incredibly innovative, while Apple (the software company) has been rather stale and stagnant and Apple (the services company) produces good but often mediocre products that mostly sell because of how deeply they integrate into Apple products.

The M series computers are fantastic, all things considered. The power, the power draw, the battery life etc feel unmatched at the moment. Macs have always been expensive, but my first iBook G4 cost more in absolute numbers than the M1 MBA I currently have and this doesn't even account for inflation, let alone the relative power differential between the two machines. Besides, think tablets, phones, watches or now the AVP -- Apple's hardware is usually among the best money can buy.

But, as an average consumer it increasingly feels like there's few things on the software side to actually take advantage of the power. Going back to my first iBook, moving from Windows 2000/XP to Mac OS X felt mind blowing in a way that just isn't true for Windows 10/11. The G4 was way underpowered compared to what I could have gotten in Wintel land, but it felt worth it because the software was just so much better. I now have to use Windows for work almost every day and, you know what, in some ways it's better than MacOS, in others worse, but overall it feels like a draw at best.

The iPad, equally, could be so much more, but Apple is holding itself back because why sell you one great new innovative products if they can sell you two iteratively slightly better ones.

The iPhone is becoming bigger and stronger every year, while also getting more emojis. Android is not for me, but I find the smart stuff Google is trying with photos and call assistant way more interesting than many things Apple has released recently.

I'm not predicting Apple's imminent doom btw, but to someone with modest hardware requirements the lack of innovation in the software space does stick out.
 
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