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I wonder what he thinks of this:

http://www.johnsphones.com/

Its ridiculously ignorant to assume 'dumbphones' are irrelevant, and also arrogant to try to force smartphones on everyone when not all have the need for one.

LTD is geocentric and also has a skewed view on economics. Coupled with is inability to admit that Apple could possibly make a mistake, misstep, or otherwise makes him a wonderful character study.
 
apple defending their IP and patents = fiesty apple setting the trends
other companies doing the same = patent trolling

Pretty much the foundation that is the iPhone owes itself to Nokia, and 3/4 of a billion dollars up front tells you others share that light. I don't think we really will know what Nokia and Apple truly disputed over but from what i have seen from Apple recently i would submit that Apple tried to get special treatment and not place nice
But karma is clearly a bitch, because of all the wagons to hitch their droopy star to they picked Microsoft's. Or rather, it was probably fate.
if the largest software company teeming up with the largest phone vendor on paper has the potential to be very successful. Greater pairings have failed surely, but considering neither of those are your companies i will give them a shot anyways
 
This should prop up their expected dismal (again) quarterly showing.

When your products suck ass because you were colossally negligent for nearly four years I guess you can live off royalties. Why not.

Instead of making snide comments towards Nokia how about chiding your religion aka Apple for trying to STEAL from Nokia.
 
Ok. But what you're stating as fact was never at issue in the first place.

It was. It's been pointed out. It's ok - you can admit that you (and Apple) were wrong. We won't think less of you. We might even respect you a little.
 
You're right... Nokia always sucked :) their software is a joke.

When and why did you and everyone else like LTD develop this hate towards a company like so many other apple evangelists? Do you realize how ignorant you come off? This is almost as ridiculous as the apple bashing on engadget.
 
Ok. But what you're stating as fact was never at issue in the first place.

The issue about Nokia wanting more money than Apple. So what its their patents they can do whatever they want.

I've seen you use that exact excuse for Apple's ridiculous pricing.
 
Nokia is hanging on... to Apple's coat tails :) In the long run this may be good for Apple as it could help fend off antitrust claims.
 
I don't mind competition, as long as it's competent.

There's already too much poorly designed, bad tech out there. Adding more doesn't help anyone.

I tend to laugh a little harder than most at the incompetence that's out there. Partly because for the most part, it's such a stark contrast to Apple.

You speak highly of competence, I'd imagine you'd be working for apple. But with competence comes rationale, something your pro-apple arguments lack because absolutely everything you'd said in this thread has been stunningly one-sided.
 
Again, please don't make false statements.

Apple wasn't paying, they got sued. Even macrumors posted this;

https://www.macrumors.com/2009/10/2...uit-against-apple-regarding-wireless-patents/

Apple wanted FRAND, Nokia wanted more because Apple either, they did not have any relevant IP to contribute to the pool or did not want to share their IP.

Regardless, it was the amount that Apple should pay that was under dispute, not weather they should pay or not.

Supposedly Nokia wanted around $12 per phone (or 2%), but I think they settled closer to around $6 (1%).

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When and why did you and everyone else like LTD develop this hate towards a company like so many other apple evangelists? Do you realize how ignorant you come off? This is almost as ridiculous as the apple bashing on engadget.

When we decided it was fun to give people who come around here just to post things about "Apple fanboys" and "Apple Evangelists" something to argue about.
 
You speak highly of competence, I'd imagine you'd be working for apple. But with competence comes rationale, something your pro-apple arguments lack because absolutely everything you'd said in this thread has been stunningly one-sided.

Not only that I think Android is proving to be more than competent seeing how Apple is using ideas from Android to power iOS5.
 
I wonder what Nokia had that was so valuable?

GSM technology. Nokia invented a lot of what any GSM phone needs, dumb, smart, good or bad.

Apple wanted to pay Nokia the normal amount that everybody else does for Nokia's basic tech. Nokia wanted 1000X more. Apple said no way. So they both went off and paid lawyers enough to buy piles of new sports cars and yachts while pretending to file ridiculous claims and counterclaims to keep the judges and bloggers and trolls happy. Then Apple and Nokia finally decided paying something in between, now, was better than paying lawyers forever and ever creating a legal circus.

The judges went home. Soon, so too will the bloggers and trolls. No more circus. Buy your own peanuts.
 
This article is nonsense. The issue between Apple and Nokia was that Apple believed Nokia was demanding a license fee in excess of what other licensees were paying and so chose to take their chances in court to get a fairer deal.

Because we don't know the fee Apple paid, we don't know who won the battle. Did Apple pay more than the market rate, the same, or less? This researcher simply assumes Apple paid the market rate, ie that Apple 'won' and makes up his figures from there. Worthless.
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; sv-se) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8J2 Safari/6533.18.5)

That's a nice lump-sum!
 
That's a lot of money!

I bet that's more money that they make from their phones.

Nokia and Microsoft are nice match, neither can sell their phones, but Microsoft gets a cut from HTC and Nokia gets a cut from Apple.
 
if the largest software company teeming up with the largest phone vendor on paper has the potential to be very successful. Greater pairings have failed surely, but considering neither of those are your companies i will give them a shot anyways

The problem for Nokia is that no one partners with Microsoft and does well in the end. Microsoft gets what it wants, and you get the shaft sooner or later. With 30 years of history of this happening, with few exceptions along the way, I'm amazed that any company ever decides to partner with Microsoft. But when you get a Microsoft guy to become your CEO, I guess you get what you pay for.
 
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