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Safari needs WebM video support. Also an option to use native player on iPad. The custom web sites players are messy and broken.
 
I use Safari exclusively but I do have issues with secure pages saying I have to update my browser to login. Work has digital signing pages that I have to avoid as well due to Safari Crashing and not being able to fill in the form or sign it. I get a kick out of tech support telling me to instal Chrome for the security sites, makes me chuckle every time I report it.
 
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Pretty surprising considering how bad Safari is with many websites, such as Facebook
Safari has been awful ever since Ventura came out but I do like it's design that stays out of the way
Apple is really pathetic when it comes to improving the user experience and compatibility, it's as if they just don't care
 
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Don't let me forget about not being able to clear history, cookies and all browser junk from within the Safari browser!! Having to exit Safari to clear all the Junk is plain nonsense. The only reason to do this is you don't want us to clear the junk out due to tracking and selling data. I still use CCleaner to clear the junk that Safari doesn't get rid of after closing Safari going to settings and clearing history and closing tabs there is so much left it's like I didn't clear anything at all in the settings.
 
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What is the draw for Chrome?

It ticks me off that my son’s school is pushing it. Even though every student needs to have a Mac laptop, they are using Chrome, because a lot of the sites they use for delivering education content or do student assessment on “run better on Chrome than on Safari.”

People don’t seem to realize (or care) that the browser is free, because it is a very valuable tool for collecting information on them that really should remain private.
How much do you pay for Safari, Firefox, Brave, Edge again? If it’s free you’re the product is either true or it isn’t. Then there are the VPN’s 😂
 
Don't let me forget about not being able to clear history, cookies and all browser junk from within the Safari browser!! Having to exit Safari to clear all the Junk is plain nonsense. The only reason to do this is you don't want us to clear the junk out due to tracking and selling data. I still use CCleaner to clear the junk that Safari doesn't get rid of after closing Safari going to settings and clearing history and closing tabs there is so much left it's like I didn't clear anything at all in the settings.
Thank you! I thought I was the only one having this issue since Apple Support suggested reloading the OS as a solution. Not once have they ever admitted to their being an issue with their software and immediately went to fix the problem. They just ignore it, and sadly users put up with this.
From the ongoing issues and removing icons from System Settings making it harder to use, Tim Cook has really taken the Apple out of Apple. Reminds me more and more of Microsoft every day.
 
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I don't use Chrome Sync so maybe that's required to make Chrome actually work right. It's literally just the stored password in the browser. It's been going on for literal years for me and it's happened across multiple machines and OSs.
If you are not syncing then what is the problem? Chromes sync is the fastest I have ever seen. Microsoft and Apple sync works but is slower.
 
If you are not syncing then what is the problem? Chromes sync is the fastest I have ever seen. Microsoft and Apple sync works but is slower.
The syncing part is irrelevant.

The problem is every few weeks my password that logs into certain web apps expires and I have to make a new one. Chrome fails to recognize that I'm entering in a new password the first time this happens and just keeps autofilling the old password for weeks after. I have to actually delete the saved password data or deal with manually entering a crazy long password multiple times a day for weeks because Chrome can't understand it changed.
 
Considering Safari is only available on Macs and not PCs, this is more impressive.

I would love to see Mac specific usage numbers. This would be a more fair comparison

Would be interesting to see the market share of Safari vs Chrome, just on macOS....

If OS X/macOS has about 18% share of the global desktop market and Safari has about 12% share of the global desktop market, that could put Safari usage on OS X/macOS at approximately 2/3rds (12%/18%) since its only available on OS X/macOS for the desktop.
 
FIREFOX!!!

Been a user since it was called Phoenix. :cool:

Google (with its large search default payment to Mozilla, although not nearly as large as its payment to Apple) is practically the only thing keeping Firefox alive. It will be interesting to see what happens if Google is ever forced to stop paying for search default settings on browsers.
 
Are we not going to talk about the concept that Edge is on 90% of computers and Safari on 10%, and Safari still wins?

Where are you getting the 90% figure from? Windows desktop share hasn't been 90% for a while. Statcounter currently puts it at around 63% globally and 53% in the U.S.
 
Windows 10 started off well and made a lot of people happy. Then update after update it gradually turned into the turd known as Windows 11.

Same thing happened with Edge. It started lean and now we get pop ups, a billion options in the settings and this really **** Microsoft Start page that is hard to disable and is full of fake stories, click bait and conspiracy sites.

Microsoft only ever learn their lessons for a hot minute. After that they go back to their old ways of pushing out **** software.
If you ask me nearly every browser on the market has too many ‘features’.

The only good thing going for Edge is built-in cookie whitelisting.
 
Microsoft and Google are deteriorating in every way before our eyes with their parasite CEOs and the culture of scams and data hoarding AI they are doing right now.

Microsoft ‘We have AI muh muh look how genius we are muh muh that’s why all our productivity software and OS are going down the drain muh must ask the AI to design this stuff and fire our employees’

Google ‘Muh we have to fire employees muh look how smart our AI let’s fire some more employees and then give the CEO a big fat raise what do you mean your YouTube channel with 10 million subscribers got taken over by deepfake crypto scam videos?’

If Apple ever follows the scum path of these companies I stop buying Macs and I am happy to stay on the systems I have for my last 15 working years. No AI isn’t taking our jobs this is what the pigs on Wall St and media are saying to laugh at you, make you feel scared, push your wages down and laugh at you again. It’s an elitist scam.
 
Best for me is Safari, for its Command F and Command G search interface, among other features.
 
I use Google Chrome for some shopping websites and anything where Safari doesn't seem to render it properly (which is probably the fault of the site not following standards).
Don't forget it could also be WebKit.

Unfortunately, Apple still embraces their "lightning-thinking" with regards to web standards: creating proprietary, WebKit-specific crap that nobody else can use.
 
Microsoft and Google are deteriorating in every way before our eyes with their parasite CEOs and the culture of scams and data hoarding AI they are doing right now.

Microsoft ‘We have AI muh muh look how genius we are muh muh that’s why all our productivity software and OS are going down the drain muh must ask the AI to design this stuff and fire our employees’

Google ‘Muh we have to fire employees muh look how smart our AI let’s fire some more employees and then give the CEO a big fat raise what do you mean your YouTube channel with 10 million subscribers got taken over by deepfake crypto scam videos?’

If Apple ever follows the scum path of these companies I stop buying Macs and I am happy to stay on the systems I have for my last 15 working years. No AI isn’t taking our jobs this is what the pigs on Wall St and media are saying to laugh at you, make you feel scared, push your wages down and laugh at you again. It’s an elitist scam.
So, the elites are trying to scare "normal" people—which would cause those people to panic and seek more money—so that they can push down their wages?

If the elite's goal is to suppress wages, wouldn't it make more sense to not make it seem as if those wages would be ending soon anyway?
 
Now Safari is jumping again not only in facebook but seekingalpha.com
This browser is being messed up by Apple and they need to fix it!
 
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