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And the constant barrage of "oh my lower iPhone sales", give it a rest. It's a stupid statistic since the supply has been limited and doesn't need to be hounded in every single article as if Apple is reactionary to Apple media. Supplies are feeling up any way, just got my silver 256 7 plus Verizon yesterday after going online at 1pm and reserving it. I am in So Cal.
 
I can watch photos sync to both iCloud and my Macbook almost instantly after taking a shot with my iPhone...
I really wish this were the case for me. Unfortunately, the only way I can get photos taken on my iPhone to sync with my Retina iMac is to open the Photos apps on both the iPhone and the Mac. If they are not both open and active, photos will not sync. I've tried searching for a solution for this problem, but to no avail.
 
Unifying won't help them! Better off with releasing those new MacBook/MacPro refreshs this month! At least that will help Apple a bit! =]

So you want new hardware to run the same software that needs improvement????
 
About damn time...
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WELL SAID...yesterday...I am driving at 75mph on US 75...want to use my iphone 5C to make a call..turn it on and it wants my iTunes ID and password.....Siri has NEVER worked either....there should be a place to LOCK in the volume and delete the iTunes Store...I don't buy now and have no interest in buying in the future but Apple INSIStS. FIX THIS.....let me own and control my own phone...I paid for it...it was NOT free.
 
It's mind blowing that they have not been working together from the start.

I think the article makes it sound black & white than it really is.

Organisation models for large companies always have trade-offs, and even in matrix organisations there's always a choice of which organisational dimension carries the most weight. It sounds to me like in the past the teams were more vertically integrated by application. For example the Photos cloud team might have been organisationally closest to the Photos UI team, Photos machine learning algorithms team, ... This wouldn't mean there is zero collaboration between cloud teams of different applications, but it would translate into things like direct reporting lines, training curriculum, physical seating, ... This is not unexpected given Steve Jobs's "the whole widget" philosophy and how Apple always touts the integration of all of these components to be their secret sauce.

It sounds like they've now realised their cloud offerings are behind competition across the board, and seek to remedy that by switching to an approach where it's more horizontal integration, i.e. all the cloud people report into one team, with the application (Photos, Music, Maps, Siri, ...) becoming a secondary rather than primary org dimension. A similar thing was reported a few weeks ago with respect to the Machine Learning team. Big companies pivot their org charts like this all the time as functions reach different scales and levels of maturity, so it's not earth shattering per se, but could be promising 2-3 years down the line.
 
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WELL SAID...yesterday...I am driving at 75mph on US 75...want to use my iphone 5C to make a call..turn it on and it wants my iTunes ID and password.....Siri has NEVER worked either....there should be a place to LOCK in the volume and delete the iTunes Store...I don't buy now and have no interest in buying in the future but Apple INSIStS. FIX THIS.....let me own and control my own phone...I paid for it...it was NOT free.
Before my iPhone 6 went swimming in my bathing suite pocket last year, it was doing that a lot. Very frustrating to continually have to input Apple ID/password at random just to use the device. Even the firmware update/reinstall did nothing to help.

(So I offered the device to the drowned god—thanks Balon Greyjoy.)
 
I have had an iPhone, an iPad a MacBook Pro for three years. During that time, the cloud sync across all those devices has not worked for ONE DAY. I thought I would leave this here.
Your anecdote makes me feel pity. I am sorry for your loss.
 
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I can watch photos sync to both iCloud and my Macbook almost instantly after taking a shot with my iPhone. There is no duplication of photos on your iPhone if you choose the option to let the iPhone manage storage. Turning off iCloud does not delete your data in iCloud. It will ask if you want to delete if from the device but you have the option to NOT delete the data.

Ok, that is enough. Sounds to me like you have no clue how to use your devices. Apple offers some instructions on their site. I suggest instead of posting incorrect info here that you use your time to learn how things really work.

I don't think there's anything I could do wrong by turning on an iCloud feature. You turn the feature on and it should work on its own, except when it doesn't. There is nothing to diagnose either because there are no error messages and nothing to set up. If the photos never sync, or sync slowly, that's just how it is, there's nothing I can do to fix it. I've had all the issues I've described, I'm sure not everyone has them, but that doesn't mean the issues don't exist. There are definitely major problems with iCloud that other services like Dropbox and Google Drive never seem to have, for me at least.

Maybe they've fixed some of the issues by now, I don't know. Some things, like the slow photo syncing and the duplicating of notes on my iPhone, and Family Sharing being totally unreliable are still not fixed for me, I don't see how I'm "using it wrong". I doubt there is anything I can do wrong for that to happen, and I don't think you can be so sure about it either.

I'm not just making this up, there are plenty of people on here who complain about slow Safari tab syncing for example, or problems with other stuff. I don't tell them they're doing something wrong just because my Safari tabs sync without issues. Either help or get out of the way, but don't just go up to people who need help and tell them it's their fault, without doing any research first.

What I've posted isn't incorrect, it's my actual experience with these services. I'm just letting people know that problems exist with iCloud, since this is what we're discussing here. If you're not having problems, good for you. But maybe accept that others are less lucky, rather than tell them that they're doing something wrong. Believe me, I did do plenty of research before giving up on these problems (including having done Genius appointments and written extensively to Apple).

I don't know why people feel the need to point out that what I'm saying is invalid when they have no idea. I clearly said that these are actual problems I'm having. I don't come here to waste time and make up problems to complain about.
 
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I have only one request: Separate iTunes.

- iBooks became its own app
- Photos (iPhoto) has always been separate
- iMovie Store for movies and tv shows
- iTunes for Music, Podcasts, etc (iOS App Store or move that into the macOS App Store)

Finally, iSync is still baked into the backend. Revamp iSync to act as the syncing conduit and not the currently bloated iTunes.

Windows: Syncing won't change. The iCloud Control Panel and Office can still be necessary for data syncing and photos, movies, etc sync to their respective folders.

Either keep it or be "courageous" and create Windows versions of iMovie, Photos, iBooks, etc for a small price. It'll create a harmonious system for everyone no matter the OS platform which can only make it easier for Apple and a better experience for iPhone and iPad owners. It may entice Windows users over to macOS.

Such changes won't impact Windows syncing. Apple could produce Windows versions of iBooks, Photos, iMovie, etc for a small price. Regardless, iSync should replace iTunes for syncing data while simply following in iBooks' footsteps for separate apps and their respective App Store.
 
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I was hoping that with Google recently announced of Pixel includes unlimited cloud storage. That Apple will offer the same thing with iPhone 8, photos and videos will be unlimited for iCloud. Just hoping!
Apple does not benefit from users' iCloud data which it stores due to its privacy policies. On the other hand, Google does benefit and uses your data however it sees fit to make money off of it directly or indirectly with its many other services. Like for example, imagine taking pictures of your dog and then all of a sudden seeing google ads for dog food etc. while browsing.

It depends on how you choose to pay - with Apple it is with Money and Google it is with your privacy (or lack of). There is a "cost" associated with Google's "free" offerings.
 
Every company has to start somewhere. Apple is the "new kid on the block" and have a long way to catch up with Google Maps and perhaps others as well.. But they got to start somewhere. They will always be lacking, compared to Google Maps, even in future.

If you have bought into the Apple ecosystem, as I have, then even with deficiency, I would be quite happy to be used as a guinea pig by Apple Maps so that it can be improved over time.

In August, I was on holiday in States and Canada. I made a journey which started in NY, Niagara Falls, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Boston, Rhode Island, New Haven and back to NY. Did almost 2500 miles in 3 weeks and used only APPLE MAPS. I was checking local restaurants, on Yelp, etc and then using Apple Maps to get there, without getting lost once ! I was a bit worried, reading all the negative comments I had read about Apple Maps on these forums, but was glad it was much much better then what I had thought it would be.

I think with time & a lot of improvement it will be a good addition to other iOS apps. If you believe in a brand, you got to support it as well.

So yes, I am mildly excited.

To each his own. Personally, my experience with Apple Maps in the Atlanta area has been missing or incorrectly placed POI. I gave up trying to submit changes to Apple because I've submitted some changes three and four times over the period of a year only to have the POI not updated at all.

If updating the POI actually worked consistently, I would probably keep doing it to help them out; but I don't have the time or the patience to keep doing Apple's research for them if they're just going to ignore what I'm telling them.
 
I have only one request: Separate iTunes.

- iBooks became its own app
- Photos (iPhoto) has always been separate
- iMovie Store for movies and tv shows
- iTunes for Music, Podcasts, etc (iOS App Store or move that into the macOS App Store)

Finally, iSync is still baked into the backend. Revamp iSync to act as the syncing conduit and not the currently bloated iTunes.

For Windows users, they have the iCloud Control Panel and must have Office for data syncing, photos, movies, etc sync to their respective folders. Either keep that the same or be "courageous" and create Windows versions of iMovie, Photos, iBooks, etc for a small price. It'll create a harmonious system for everyone no matter the OS platform, improve iPhone and iPad use and sell more, and might entice Windows users over to macOS with a taste of (well produced) Mac software. (Key on well produced).

Either way, making these changes to macOS won't impact Windows syncing yet may give Apple an opportunity to produce Windows versions of iBooks, Photos, iMovie, etc for a small price. Regardless, iSync should replace iTunes for syncing data while simply following in iBooks' footsteps for separate apps and their respective App Store.


This split has been asked for and speculated about for years. It definitely has trade-offs from a user point of view - each component is simpler, but there's more of them - but overall I couldn't really agree more. Consistency between the platforms should trump other considerations and I especially like your idea of a centralized sync system tying these decentralized apps together. One app, doing one task (hopefully, well).
 
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They rarely try any application for reliability....they just figure they will fix it with the next update and if not that update...then another future update.
 
I have only one request: Separate iTunes.

- iBooks became its own app
- Photos (iPhoto) has always been separate
- iMovie Store for movies and tv shows
- iTunes for Music, Podcasts, etc (iOS App Store or move that into the macOS App Store)

Finally, iSync is still baked into the backend. Revamp iSync to act as the syncing conduit and not the currently bloated iTunes.

Windows: Syncing won't change. The iCloud Control Panel and Office can still be necessary for data syncing and photos, movies, etc sync to their respective folders.

Either keep it or be "courageous" and create Windows versions of iMovie, Photos, iBooks, etc for a small price. It'll create a harmonious system for everyone no matter the OS platform which can only make it easier for Apple and a better experience for iPhone and iPad owners. It may entice Windows users over to macOS.

Such changes won't impact Windows syncing. Apple could produce Windows versions of iBooks, Photos, iMovie, etc for a small price. Regardless, iSync should replace iTunes for syncing data while simply following in iBooks' footsteps for separate apps and their respective App Store.

I really feel like in 2016 Windows should not be a big point of consideration. The industry is very different from when iTunes for Windows was necessary. Apple could just keep a legacy iTunes around for Windows and do what's right for Mac users and split up iTunes.
 
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Why wasn't this the case from the start? No wonder these apps feel so fragmented these days compared to older iterations, like when they were all part of the iLife package.

Case in point, a couple of days ago my wife was using Photobooth to take photos of her face for a makeup demonstration she was publishing. She opened photos expecting them to be there in their own album, but nothing. We actually had to google where to find the damn photos she'd just taken. After finding them, she had to crop them a bit which required importing them into photos to do so, since Preview is basically worthless these days and can't even manage that. So I'm trying to explain how to do all this over the phone from about 2 thousand miles away (I travel for business) and she's rapidly losing her patience to the point where she's actually mad that I got her a Mac instead of a PC (she's done this same thing numerous times before on Windows 7, 10 etc and it's never been an issue) and throwing back in my face the "It Just Works" Apple slogan, which in this day and age on the Mac has become some kind of cruel joke. I can't disagree with her frustration because she's not wrong. The whole process of taking, collecting, and editing photos has gotten ridiculously complicated compared to how it used to be, which seems to be the norm for the Mac ecosystem.
 
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Apple needs to have the "People" facial recognition feature for Photos sync across devices: Mac to iPhone, etc.

I use iCloud Photo Library, and unless I'm doing something wrong here, the "People" feature doesn't sync across devices, so I have to do the facial recognition review on my iPhone and MacBook Pro separately. It's a real pain in the neck, and it's annoying to have to review People/Photos that I've already categorized.

Is anyone else running into this?
 
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Apple needs to have the "People" facial recognition feature for Photos sync across devices: Mac to iPhone, etc.

I use iCloud Photo Library, and unless I'm doing something wrong here, the "People" feature doesn't sync across devices, so I have to do the facial recognition review on my iPhone and MacBook Pro separately. It's a real pain in the neck, and it's annoying to have to review People/Photos that I've already categorized.

Is anyone else running into this?

It's a known limitation and has been listed in the release notes for each version. It's apparently "coming". It's disappointing, frustrating even, that it isn't there yet. I'm maintaining them on my Mac only in the meantime until sync is in place.
 
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