Apple's Share of U.S. PC Market Leaps to 12.9% in 3Q 2011

[divinox]

...and no small number of W7 sales are folks getting shed of Vista too.

Nowadays, Vista is apparently quite OK actually. Or so i have heard.

It may take less than you imagine. With the advent of iCloud, the iOS devices will sync all the important business things with the PC back on their desk, making it easier and easier to rely on the iPhone and iPad for the growing need to be "plugged into" work when you are at home or elsewhere.

The IT-peeps would like a nice stable world where everything is plugged in and still running XP. That world is rapidly vanishing in the current climate of doing business faster, cheaper, smarter or else.

IT is also being lured to the iPhone due to the terrible screw-ups within RIM's messaging infrastructure which has seen some recent massive downtime. Tie that to the absolute dominance if the iPad and the MBA and Apple has a lot of reasons to be confident of its future in the enterprise market.

While I don't see the PC computer vanishing, I see it moving from the center of the workstation to a lesser role in a worker's day as we all march into a new work paradigm.[/QUOTE]

Nothing you said would convince me to go Apple. In fact, everything listed has been implemented already, in ways far superior to the iCloud solution. Heck, i'd even take Windows phone and its integrated solutions over iOS in that respect.

And as for the world spinning faster, not like going Apple will help you with that. MSFT has far superior enterprise solutions, far more developer support, and a far greater ecosystem of complementors. So yeah, nothing really.

p.s. i read the other day that windows tablets still dominate the enterprise space. further, back to back surveys has shown that people prefer windows over iOS on tablets (50 vs 30% or so). thirdly, W8 will take care of the rest.

 

[SandynJosh]

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Even though XP may be widely used, you apparently haven't heard that Microsoft has not supported XP for a while.

Microsoft are providing security updates for 2 more years. Doesn't that count as support?

Well then, apparently I am the one that didn't get the memo. Last I had heard, MS was going to drop XP support in early 2010. Thanks for the correction!

 

[SandynJosh]

No major corporation would ever rely on iCloud.
It's a consumer grade product with unproven security.

Apple has a LONG way to go before they can seriously crack the Enterprise market segment.
They failed in the server market and are still just a niche product in many corporations.

As for RIM's network issue, it is/was expected, but it's still the most secure messaging network in the world.

No system will ever have 100% uptime. Murphy's law applies to everything.
Anyone saying otherwise is full of it.

When it comes to the OS running on the corporate desk-top computer, I agree with you 100%, it will be a Windows computer, now and far into the future. MS is as strong in what they do in the corporate market as IBM is in the "big iron" area of business.

If Apple were to even TRY today to displace any part of what MS does, it would fail or struggle mightily. I am no more privy to Apple's plans to capture the enterprise market than anyone. However I do watch Apple closely and if it aint wired in, they see it as a way to capture it for themselves. That's how RIM got into the corporate door, in spite of the WinMobile phone presence.

When Steve Jobs declared this to be the "post-PC era," I think he was speaking more to where Apple was putting their efforts as well as ceding their efforts, then to the tech world as a whole.

The opportunity to sell to the Fortune 500 or even the whole Fortune 1000 lies in having the most desirable mobile products, and in that, I think Apple has already demonstrated great acceptance over Win7 phones and RIM phones, has virtually no competition in the tablet market to enterprise customers, while the MBA is finding a home there as well.

Steve Jobs long ago said, "The war with Microsoft is over, Microsoft won." What Apple has done since 2007 is go around Microsoft and everyone else and created their own markets that they can be strong in.

 

[saviour]

Steve Jobs long ago said, "The war with Microsoft is over, Microsoft won." What Apple has done since 2007 is go around Microsoft and everyone else and created their own markets that they can be strong in.

Pretty accurate description of what is happening at the moment.

 

[SandynJosh]

p.s. i read the other day that windows tablets still dominate the enterprise space. further, back to back surveys has shown that people prefer windows over iOS on tablets (50 vs 30% or so).

...and Henry Ford said, "That if I asked my customers what wanted, they would have said 'a faster horse'."

Some of the things you can learn by taking surveys:
1. The words used by the survey writers can heavily influence the results you get.
2. People answering surveys have a limited imagination about changing their existing way of doing things.
3. People lie when answering surveys.


I'm not sure if you may have misspoke about Windows dominating the tablet market. The last I heard Ballmer was still trying to figure out how to do it right.

 

[rjohnstone]

The opportunity to sell to the Fortune 500 or even the whole Fortune 1000 lies in having the most desirable mobile products, and in that, I think Apple has already demonstrated great acceptance over Win7 phones and RIM phones, has virtually no competition in the tablet market to enterprise customers, while the MBA is finding a home there as well.

While Apple has been able to replicate the functionality that RIM provides, it hasn't been able to replicate the security and control.
RIM has never had a breach of their infrastructure (a few outages, but no breach) and nobody has ever cracked their encryption keys.
Heck, no one has ever succesfuly hacked into a Blackberry and grabbed secure data.
The only known hack is for the BB 6.0 web browser (WebKit based) and even it didn't expose any secure information. Only media card access was obtained. Emails, contacts, passwords and app data were never compromised. That has since been patched.

Many Fortune 500 companies, the one I work for included, have had the iPhone stuck in the R&D dept. since 2008. A few execs have them, but they have their BB right next to them for all corporate communications.

Some day Apple may get a stronger foot hold, but I don't see that happening any time soon.

iPad's and the MBA are still considered niche in the corporate world.
The MBA will never replace a secured T series ThinkPad. This is one field where security and function supersede design.
And it's still running OS X. Not exactly a giant in the corporate world.