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Apple's Share of Worldwide Tablet Shipments Falls Below 40% in 1Q 2013
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Didn't realize. That would explain why the specs are so different between the 7/10.
Yeah... I didn't mean it to be so concrete by saying "always"
My bad.
But anyway... if your first tablet is a cheap terrible Android tablet... are you gonna go down that road again?
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Do you think Android users have the same problem?
Lots o' purchased Android apps keeping them locked in?
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Like I said... I've seen people go from Android phones to iPhone.
Maybe they hated their old Droid X... or they didn't have any purchased Android apps.
But the point is... it's easy to switch to something else.
And for tablets... I'm not seeing any data that people buy the same platform over and over.
Yeah, they do. It's one of the bad things about the mobile revolution. It's all purely digital media, tied to a specific account from a specific store that's usually run by the platform OS provider.
If it were set up like, say, Steam, it wouldn't be so bad. I can buy a piece of software on Windows using it, fire up Steam on the Mac, and download that same piece of software for OSX. As long as it's available, you have free access to anything you've bought regardless of the platform you're running it on.
Apple, Google, and MS could do the same with their stores. Thing is, they don't have any compelling reason to do so. Quite the opposite, in fact. They want you to stay with their platform, and locking you in through apps is one of the best ways to do it.
It isn't just Apple that sucks here. They all do. Unfortunately, this doesn't look like it'll be changing anytime soon.
So, Apple shouldn't make cheaper iPhones or cheaper iPads? Because then those who buy them would then end up buying a high end Android phone or table when they switch?
A lot of kids may not have the money to buy a new smart phone, but they will have a couple of dollars to purchase apps, etc each month.
Also, do you think the purchasing behavior of Android users will stay the same? Or will they spend more or less on apps, etc?
I doubt Apple are making decision based on what you have seen, or that they are assured about the future thanks to what you have seen...
Not true. Shipped numbers are meaningless. Sold is what counts. Apple counts only sold while Samsung says shipped. Many of them are in fact on store shelves. They also not count tablets like the Kindle that have android underneath but have no Google services. Look at the Nexus 10 which is considered the flagship Android tablet. Sold numbers for those are very low. Not surprising considering its low build quality, lack of support, washed out looking screen, and performance issues. Go read the Nexus 10 forum at Android Central and others and see how many complaints there are. Like the Nexus 7 and Nexus 4 the Nexus 10 is sold at cost. Also tablet applications are severely lacking, most are in fact upsized smartphone apps and look and perform like it.
Also anyone going by IDC's number is making a mistake. they are wrong far more often than they are right and that has been true for many years. Their are paid off for one thing and also want to get attention by making up numbers on very little fact or evidence.
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Even Nexus 7 sales, arguably the most popular Android tablet, plea in comparison to the iPad Mini.
I use both Android and iOS devices and I would like to see better Android tablets to spur more competition but it isn't here yet.
Also anyone going by IDC's number is making a mistake. they are wrong far more often than they are right and that has been true for many years. Their are paid off for one thing and also want to get attention by making up numbers on very little fact or evidence.
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it also explains why the build quality and screen color and contrast are so poor. Even though the Asus built Nexus 7 screen is also washed out looking. The Nexus 10 does not have 3G by the way so not sure why Apple has to have a 3 G tablet for $399. Google sells their devices at cost to try to get people to buy Android tablets. Apple would like to actually make a profit instead of giving tablets away.
Even Nexus 7 sales, arguably the most popular Android tablet, plea in comparison to the iPad Mini.
I use both Android and iOS devices and I would like to see better Android tablets to spur more competition but it isn't here yet.
Why?
Wrong, Apple also count shipped
Any proof for that?
I don't know. If all Samsung tablets were given out for free to those who bought Samsung TVs, it means that Samsung sold 9 million TVs. Perhaps Samsung is a better investment than AAPL
And BTW, Samsung definitely was a better investment than AAPL in the last year. AAPL was a horrible investment (and still is).----------
Then how would you explain the fact that Samsung made about the same amount of profits in the last two quarters as Apple? BTW, Apple report shipped items as well. Those iPads you see on BestBuy, Target, WalMart etc. shelves were shipped but not sold.
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I'm pretty sure kids are using the iPod Touch a lot.
That might lean them more towards an iOS phone.
Side by side, my Nexus 7 with my 4S, I think the screens are almost identical. I am always amazed at how nice the Nexus 7 screen is.
As for the ecosystem others have brought up, I still use two iPhones, a 4S and a 3GS. I also have a Nexus 4 as my main phone a Nexus 7 as my tablet. Obviously, I have money in apps on both platforms. Don't bother me much. I bought TomTom on my Nexus because it was only $27 where as on Apple store, it was well over $40.
There is a reason though that we are hearing rumors of Apple coming out with a cheaper iPad and that is because it well obviously sell more. Again, price is a major consideration in this day where people don't have tons of money to spend on an iPad when they can get a comparable tablet that runs Android.
And that was what Steve Jobs was hoping for, he did call the iPod Touch the training wheels for the iPhone. So, ween the kids into using iOS and get them to buy iPhones and iPads.
But then, the iPod Touch costs at least $199. So, I'm guessing a lot of parents will rather spend that, or less, on an Android phone for their kid.
40% of shipped, 90% of users. And frankly, the other 10% will buy an iPad within 6 months, after they get sick of cheap/nasty Android.
All the same, waiting for the Ihnatko article about how Android is more fun if you like to hack.
All the same, waiting for the Ihnatko article about how Android is more fun if you like to hack.
Took me barely a couple of minutes on my ipad and a 256 Kbps connection. Would have taken the same time if I was using my MacBook. No idea about the "unsmooth" experience you mentioned. Seems to me you're the one who has no idea what he's talking about....
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What do you guys think will happen if apple keeps manufacturing outdated tablets.. Lose marketshare and lose customers. Ipad was the next best thing, yes in 2010.. Now its 2013 and ipad is lagging behind in specs and function.. ofcourse the stale iOS which looks dated and so 2010..
Ipad used to have a great value 2 years ago, now my ATT4G 16GB ipad wont sell for more than $300. ( I paid 629).. Reason is, less people want apple products and more people ditching the i-products..
The stock isnt tanking for no reason, expect below 200 level in 12 months.. Expect iphone marketshare to tank below 20%.
After that people who worship apple products will come up with reason#55 for why this happened. Denial is bad and illusion is worse...
This is the process on a computer.
Rightclick on picture. Save to your dropbox public folder.
Doubleclick on Dropbox's icon on the task bar. Open public folder.
Rightclick on picture. Get link. Paste it here.
All done from the desktop. Takes about 20 seconds.
On the iPad.
Click and hold on picture in Safari. Save picture to camera roll.
Get on Wifi connection, switch to Dropbox app, and wait for it to scan and save the picture to the Camera Uploads folder. God forbid if you have a bunch of other pictures waiting for an upload.
Move picture from Camera Uploads to Public folder. Get public link.
Leap from Dropbox back to Safari, and paste link to forum.
While I was exaggerating about the whole process taking 10 minutes (it barely takes 3), it's so much more cumbersome to do on the iPad. And that's mostly due to the way iOS is set up.
Also, nice broken link to your picture.
edit: there you go. Took 20 minutes to fix that link. :thumb:
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IDC: Android topped tablet share in Q1 at 57 percent, Apple led manufacturers
Engadget's Headline with the following graph taken from the same IDC numbers.
Engadget's Headline with the following graph taken from the same IDC numbers.
And it didn't work.
There it goes.
Weird that it's still showing my old chicken avatar.
Link should work now (fingers crossed).This is the process on a computer.
Rightclick on picture. Save to your dropbox public folder.
Doubleclick on Dropbox's icon on the task bar. Open public folder.
Rightclick on picture. Get link. Paste it here.
All done from the desktop. Takes about 20 seconds.
On the iPad.
Click and hold on picture in Safari. Save picture to camera roll.
Get on Wifi connection, switch to Dropbox app, and wait for it to scan and save the picture to the Camera Uploads folder. God forbid if you have a bunch of other pictures waiting for an upload.
Move picture from Camera Uploads to Public folder. Get public link.
Leap from Dropbox back to Safari, and paste link to forum.
While I was exaggerating about the whole process taking 10 minutes (it barely takes 3), it's so much more cumbersome to do on the iPad. And that's mostly due to the way iOS is set up.
Also, nice broken link to your picture.
I don't get how you made this process so much more complicated than it needed to be. Here what I did...
Took a screen shot (could have snapped a pic too with same results)
Went to Dropbox.com in safari.
Clicked on public folder
Uploaded image
Copied link
Posted on MR (except I messed up the link as I have zero experience with Dropbox. Thought direct link would work but it didnt).
Had it not been for the slow internet connection, it'd have taken practically no time here.
The weakest link is you're not able to save directly to DB. You have to go through the Photos app middleman before you can get it over to DB to do your thing. It can be done, but it's just not smooth and intuitive. There are too many hoops to hop through.
Unless there's a way to save directly from Safari to Dropbox that I'm not aware of, it's an overly clumsy experience.
I'm not sure if I'm understanding you correctly here (please correct me if I didn't). You can save directly from safari to DB. The photos app works like finder or file explorer. You click on the upload button on Dropbox website and it gives you an option to choose an existing image or snap a new one (while you're still in safari itself all the time). How much more direct could you want it to be?
I know several people (usually families on a budget) that buy into these cheap $150-$200 android tablets only to end up thinking the tablet experience (as a whole) is crap and not for them.. a 'kids toy'.
It's amazing how many are out there now, I get emails on a daily basis.
It's amazing how many are out there now, I get emails on a daily basis.
Android has for sure dominated the smartphone market, and now it is already starting to dominat the tablet market, too? Damn, the pace is far too quick, much much quicker than I’ve been guessing!!
Please, Windows OEMs, do something, Windows 8 has an obvious advantage over Android on tablets, show it to the customers with some acceptable hardware designs! I really hope there will be still real competitions 5-10 years later, please don’t let Android monopoly the smartphone+tablet market.
Please, please, please, Windows OEMs, by grabbing enough tablet market, you can help yourself as well as Apple, to keep relevant to the market, for a long time to go. Please make it true a healthy long-time market by leaving all three platforms be similarly important on the market!
Please, Windows OEMs, do something, Windows 8 has an obvious advantage over Android on tablets, show it to the customers with some acceptable hardware designs! I really hope there will be still real competitions 5-10 years later, please don’t let Android monopoly the smartphone+tablet market.
Please, please, please, Windows OEMs, by grabbing enough tablet market, you can help yourself as well as Apple, to keep relevant to the market, for a long time to go. Please make it true a healthy long-time market by leaving all three platforms be similarly important on the market!