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Apple's Share of Worldwide Tablet Shipments Falls Below 40% in 1Q 2013
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There is no correlation between web traffic and device sales. I am not sure what point you were trying to make here. Not being snarky.
I have only once seen an android tablet owned by someone I know, they took it back and replaced it with another substandard android tablet, I still haven't seen them use it since.
It doesn't matter who ships what numbers, the only platform that creates tablet addicts is ios.
It doesn't matter who ships what numbers, the only platform that creates tablet addicts is ios.
Nope that is not the story as cheap Chinese tablets have been kicking around for ages, what is the story is that Android 4.0 and up has caught up with iOS and has got better and better, and that people are buying Android BOTH cheap and expensive over Apple.
will be interesting if Google announce some sales figures for the Nexus range at it's next Android event.
iPads sit on shelves and so do Android tablets.
Anyone stating that iPads are all sold and none sit on shelves is kidding themselves.
Apple had full dominance with tablets. It shouldn't be a surprise they are losing marketshare. It's called having competition now. Before when there was none or little - they, of course, had LARGE numbers. Obvious is Obivous.
Fact is - whether someone here thinks the iPad is the best tablet or not is irrelevant. Millions of non-iPads are being sold to those that for whatever reason want something different than an iPad. Whether that's size, storage, ecosystem, price - whatever. Doesn't matter. They aren't buying an iPad. They are buying something else.
Apple can enjoy their high profits even if they aren't enjoying the same exact marketshare they had before.
But by all means - let's rehash hundreds of threads that already exist about the subject.
Anyone stating that iPads are all sold and none sit on shelves is kidding themselves.
Apple had full dominance with tablets. It shouldn't be a surprise they are losing marketshare. It's called having competition now. Before when there was none or little - they, of course, had LARGE numbers. Obvious is Obivous.
Fact is - whether someone here thinks the iPad is the best tablet or not is irrelevant. Millions of non-iPads are being sold to those that for whatever reason want something different than an iPad. Whether that's size, storage, ecosystem, price - whatever. Doesn't matter. They aren't buying an iPad. They are buying something else.
Apple can enjoy their high profits even if they aren't enjoying the same exact marketshare they had before.
But by all means - let's rehash hundreds of threads that already exist about the subject.
Well, Apple products are stuffed with bits and pieces made by Samsung, aren't they? : )
Fun aside, I don't have the insight to break down Samsungs profits — from what I can dig up by searching online they seem to be rather secretive about breaking down their numbers.
But I know that they are completely dominant in the tv market. They give a lot of their other products away for free when you buy one of their TVs. And they make components for more tech products than you and I can even imagine.
Forget Intel Inside. These days it is Samsung Inside.
The ASUS number includes the Google Nexus tablets, right?
I'm pretty surprised Samsung is doing so well because their tablets suck compared to the Nexus and Kindle tablets (not to mention the iPad). I guess it's because the Google and Amazon tablets suffer from limited distribution channels?
I'm not surprised that non-Apple tablets are doing well, though, because there are some very decent ones out with prices that Apple can't touch. (Personally, I'll stick with the iPad, though.)
I'm pretty surprised Samsung is doing so well because their tablets suck compared to the Nexus and Kindle tablets (not to mention the iPad). I guess it's because the Google and Amazon tablets suffer from limited distribution channels?
I'm not surprised that non-Apple tablets are doing well, though, because there are some very decent ones out with prices that Apple can't touch. (Personally, I'll stick with the iPad, though.)
Those Android tablets came up by creating a $200 budget space. Now they're bleeding over into the $500 Premium market.
The early Android tablets that created the budget space were the Nexus 7, the Kindle Fire, and the Nook Color. They had no dataplan which limited web traffic. The Nook and the Fire were basically put out there as storefronts. Because Android tablets and smartphones own the budget market, a big chunk of that penetration is used by people who can't afford data plans or don't need data plans.
So Android penetration will never correlate with web traffic. And if Apple releases a budget iPhone, they're gonna run into this too.
You do understand the difference between estimating what is true now and predicting the future?
If you have an issue with IDC estimating then perhaps you should use examples of them doing bad estimates instead of them doing bad predictions....
Interesting question. Like the one I have: why are there so many posts about Android, Samsung and MS on an Apple related site? To make everyone feel 'happy'? To have a common enemy?
I don't give a hoot about all that other stuff, I have made my choice. Period.If a person buys a $99 Android tablet and gets used to the OS, and two years later s/he got more money and decides to upgrade. Will s/he then be more likely to buy an Android tablet or not? That's your answer.
And the same goes for a child/kid/teenager who is weened on Android tablets and phones.
Where did I say that Android has a poor user experience? I was only questioning why someone who prefers Android would come to Macrumors in order to bash the iPad/iOS.
The person I replied to stated that Android tablets are a "no brainer" because they are "cheaper for better specs". Apple has never competed on specs with any of their products. Whether Apple offers the best user experience or not, that is what Apple values and strives for. If you evaluate products based primarily on price and specs, I can't imagine why you would be interested in Apple or bother to comment on an Apple fan site.
I'm fine if you like Android. I'm fine with people criticizing Apple because they "want them to do better". However, saying that iOS is "mind numbingly dull" and "fairly incapable" does not sound like constructive criticism. Neither is touting how your Nexus 4 "embarrasses" the iPhone. It's just bashing Apple to an audience of Apple fans, and I can't see the point in that.
If you feel that Google has left Apple so far in the dust and have nothing constructive to say about Apple products, why wouldn't you just move on and focus on Google rumors? Trust me, I don't spend time on Android fan forums ranting about how superior my iPhone is and accusing Android fans of "blind devotion".
The other flip side is this. Android users are predominately teenagers, young adults with no college degree or descretionary income OR some older people on fixed income (buying mostly Kindles and Nooks) that are more into basic use tablet users that either like to hack the OS or hack games or just use as a browser/reader and social networking, whereas iPads are going to business professionals, educational institutions, Enterprise customers, and people that are in the music/video/graphic arts creation, architects, interior designers, retail store chains, restaurant chains and production markets, as well as healthcare professionals. Bottom line, Apple caters to people that have money, spend money on higher end software and hardware.
@Simmias: They post on here for $. They are paid to post on here.
The funny thing is that if the iPad dominates web traffic then what are those millions of android tablets used for? Are they actually in the hands of people or sitting in a warehouse?
I actually have an e-paper kobo reader somewhere. I never use it. I only used it for about a month after I bought it and only briefly.
No, you couldn't be more incorrect, but thanks for assuming that.
Purity in thought and no criticizing of Apple products. Are you looking to start a cult?
What we are seeing is that the Android tablets are finally catching up spec wise and since they are cheaper, they are going to people on limit budgets so they can act like they have an iPad, but iPads are generally sold to more professionals and Enterprise customers. I think a lot of pent up demand for Apple tablets moving forward as they want the fingerprint technology which HOPEFULLY will be implemented. Apple is just going through a more planned slump if you will as they migrate away from Samsung as a supplier and as they get the next wave of processor, screen, security technology together.
Some people will switch brands like underwear and some stick with a brand. I don't see the Android tablets moving forward causing Apple any major problems. Even the Nexus 10 tablet sucked compared to the iPad 4 when playing high resolution games. The Nexus was slower/choppy and less detailed in comparison.
So what do you say if those Samsung tablet figures include the Samsung made Nexus 10?
The only tablets I've ever seen in public places are Kindles used by old ladies. I STILL haven't seen a Nexus or Samsung tablet being used by someone at any coffee shop or public place where mobile users congregate.
I think most of the Android tablets don't get much use. They buy them to act like they have an iPad, but end up not really using them.
Yes, Asus makes the Nexus 7/10 tablets.
I bought a 3G capables Nexus 7 in February for $300 and have been very happy with it. I loaded flash on it and use T-Mobile as my carrier. If Apple had sold a 3G capable 32GB iPad for $300 I probably would have bought it.
I don't subscribe to this "once you use Android... you'll always use Android" theory.
In phones... I've seen people with flip-phones, Blackberries and Android phones who eventually switch to iPhones. It's not really scary to try something else.
I would imagine it would be the same for tablets.
What part of "I'm fine with people criticizing Apple because they 'want them to do better'" didn't you understand? I give up.
He has not said "alway", he has said "it is more likely"
The same for iPads, if your first tablet is an iPad it will be more likely to buy another iPad when it's changed
This is especially true due to The Ecosystem. If I get another ARM tablet, it'll probably be another iPad. Not an Android. Oh no. Why? Because I've easily got $200 worth of iOS apps. That means if I switch platforms, I'll lose access to a bunch of exclusives, and have to buy everything else all over again.
I'm locked in, folks. Apple4lyfe.
I wouldn't compare using a flip-phone or a Blackberry and then switching to using iOS to using an Android phone and then switching to iOS (or using a iPhone and then switching to Android for that matter.)
iOS and Android are more complicated things with their own eco-systems. You get used to a system, learn how to do certain things in a certain way and you also invest in that system, you buy apps, etc. This wouldn't have been an issue if only Apple had high end tables and phones, but they don't. There are really cheap Android phones but there are high end Android phones too.
Btw, why do you think Apple is doing back to school specials? Just to be nice?