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I'd love Skype but the iPhone will do just fine without it.... They dont need to match any product feature for feature, the same as they haven't with the iPod. Apple tend to release features just before they are going to hit the big time when people understand what they are, what they do and when the infrastructure is in place. That said... I will not be surprised to see a Web version of Skype being utilized over the iPhones WiFi connection. ;)

I don't agree. I think Apple DO need to compete on features. The iPod which is how the iPhone is presently compared, was introduced into an emerging market and Apple, to an extent, was free to make to whatever decisions and take whatever direction it wanted.

The mobile phone market on the other hand is now extremely mature and people already understand what features are, what they do and that the infrastructure is in place. The market is also reaching saturation point, which means that people base decisions on features and form factor, not merely on the fact that the device exists, which is what gave the iPod a chance against a very few competing products when it first came out.
 
my point is that quicktime is more than a player. i could care less to be able to view videos full-screen. it's the underlying technologies that I bought; i.e. conversion. sometimes, quicktime is better than compressor or qmaster for a specific task.

i suppose what i am trying to say is that if all you ever see of quicktime is the player, then why pay the $29?

also, in reference to qt pro expiring when a new version comes out, I've never had a problem.

But why does Apple ask for extra money for QT Pro? The user just spent either $129 for OS X or a lot more for entirely new system, and then he's asked to pony up $29 more for few extra more features? Seriously, that makes no sense. Just gives user QT Pro by default on the Mac, and gives them the regural QT on Widows if they feel like it. But it's pretty darn insulting to ask for extra thirty bucks fow few extra features after you just spent over thousand bucks on a new system.

So you bought few extra technologies. But why not give those for free instead?
 
But why does Apple ask for extra money for QT Pro? The user just spent either $129 for OS X or a lot more for entirely new system, and then he's asked to pony up $29 more for few extra more features?
If it's just a few extra features to you, then you clearly don't need QuickTime Pro. It's well worth the $30 for the added areas of functionality.

But it's pretty darn insulting to ask for extra thirty bucks fow few extra features after you just spent over thousand bucks on a new system.
No it's not. Are you insulted that you have to pay extra for a wireless keyboard or for a bigger hard drive? It's software most people don't need in the first place, so why should it be used to increase the price of OS X?

Apart from the full-screen playback restriction, which I don't understand, I don't see any reason at all why anyone should care about QT Pro as a media player. The Pro features are for the production side, not the playback side. Quicktime player is more than adequate for free software.
 
If it's just a few extra features to you, then you clearly don't need QuickTime Pro. It's well worth the $30 for the added areas of functionality.

I'm sorry, but you are just missing the point here. Apple advertises OS X as "having everything". They ridicule PC's that ship with crippled software or "trialware". Yet Apple is doing the exact same thing.

No it's not. Are you insulted that you have to pay extra for a wireless keyboard or for a bigger hard drive?

I'm sorry but you are just missing the point I'm making.

It's software most people don't need in the first place, so why should it be used to increase the price of OS X?

Why should it "increase the price of OS X"? It's already there, you just pay for few bits that enable few missing features. And the price is quite tiny, they might as well not ask for any.

Apart from the full-screen playback restriction, which I don't understand, I don't see any reason at all why anyone should care about QT Pro as a media player.

The "but not everyone needs those extra features"-argument is totally, 100% irrelevant.

The Pro features are for the production side, not the playback side. Quicktime player is more than adequate for free software.

I can't help but feel that you are just missing my point...
 
I'm sorry, but you are just missing the point here. Apple advertises OS X as "having everything". They ridicule PC's that ship with crippled software or "trialware". Yet Apple is doing the exact same thing.
Quicktime is not trialware. The decision to indicate which features you could have by paying is certainly a questionable practice, but it is neither crippled nor a demo. It is the evolution of Quicktime Player, a media player. Full stop.

The claim that any computer ships with "everything" is not only obviously an exaggeration, but it's also not been made. Apple specifically advertises that it has everything you need to get started. That does not mean, nor does any reasonable person expect it to, that it comes with every conceivable piece of software to perform every conceivable need.

Macs come with a wide array of applications to get you started doing the things you probably want to do with your computer--music, photos, video, making DVDs, surfing the web, even basic word processing. These aren't demos, trial software, or limited versions. Unless, that is, you consider Final Cut Express to be a "limited version" of Final Cut Pro as opposed to two products serving two different markets.

I wouldn't consider Photoshop Elements a limited version of Photoshop any more than I'd call MS Paint a limited version of Photoshop.

Why should it "increase the price of OS X"? It's already there, you just pay for few bits that enable few missing features. And the price is quite tiny, they might as well not ask for any.
All costs get passed on to customers. There is no free lunch. If they charge for it now, and stop charging for it tomorrow, it's because they've made that money up somewhere else. They'll try to pawn it off as a "more for less" move in marketing, but there is no such thing in business.

The "but not everyone needs those extra features"-argument is totally, 100% irrelevant.
Really? So all Macs should come stuffed to the gills with Final Cut Studio and every possible expansion pack for GarageBand? Quicktime and Quicktime Pro are two different products entirely. All "the bits" are already there because the technology is built into the OS for its own internal use.

It's not any different from processor manufacturers using partially defective units for budget lines or even deactivating portions of perfectly good units to sell as lesser products. It's easier and cheaper to build it as a single unit and disable what you're not selling than to maintain separate products entirely.

If you have any use for QT's Pro features, $30 is more than reasonable. As a media player, apart from the full-screen nonsense, it is completely full-featured.
 
Question about Leopard

My buddy told me Leopard is going to cost big bucks. (he doesn't own a Mac and is thinking about buying one). I told him that I figure it's going to be an OSX up-grade to Leopard. For about $120.00 or so. Does anyone have a clue. sorry to be off- post a bit. thanks
 
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