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Apple's Signal Strength Display Changes in iOS 4.0.1 and 4.1 Detailed

Wow... when Apple Fails... they do it big time...

This is all just soooo dumb.... so stupid .... so ridiculous for words....

I hope the press conference tomorrow makes sense out of all of this... Has the whole company gone as eccentrically mad as Steve?
 
Sending videos

I have noticed that when I send videos that I recorded on my iPhone 4 the end result is grainy and not even close to being the quality of the original recorded video. The people I send the videos to have commented that they can't believe the difference in quality of my videos. With my 3Gs the videos were so clear the receiving parties used to say, "That was recorded with a cell phone?" amazed of the quality. What happened to the quality of sent videos???? Is anyone else noticing that problem?
 
Sending Videos

And also, try sending a video via mail. The email message usually won't even send. It used to send a video in an email immediately, what in the hell happened? I understand this is about the signal issue right now, but there is more then just a signal issue with this operating system.
 
Piggie said:
Forgive my ignorance :)

But can't we just have a number rather than trying to represent things in bars?


If 100 was the strongest signal the phone could ever receive and zero was when the call was dropped due to not enough signal to maintain the connection.
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u can.. just change the setting over at sbsettings
 
JT314 said:
I have noticed that when I send videos that I recorded on my iPhone 4 the end result is grainy and not even close to being the quality of the original recorded video. The people I send the videos to have commented that they can't believe the difference in quality of my videos. With my 3Gs the videos were so clear the receiving parties used to say, "That was recorded with a cell phone?" amazed of the quality. What happened to the quality of sent videos???? Is anyone else noticing that problem?
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You may want to ask this in the help and tips forum, may get better input as it's not really related to this topic. I don't know what Rez the 3G phone emailed videos in, but it may be higher than the highest setting on the 4. Not sure.
 
Less bars in more places

So now your going to see just how bad AT&T's network really SUCKS.:eek::rolleyes:

ROFLMAO

Bet there execs are pissed and the bat phone at Apple is off the hook or not ringing because of LESS bars:rolleyes:
 
Slip Jigs said:
You may want to ask this in the help and tips forum, may get better input as it's not really related to this topic. I don't know what Rez the 3G phone emailed videos in, but it may be higher than the highest setting on the 4. Not sure.
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Where is the setting for that?
 
JT314 said:
Where is the setting for that?
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It comes up when you go to share the video - you have to choose email, MMS, etc, then it asks for the resolution.

I could be totally whack on this, it could be what I saw in iMovie. Yeah, get iMovie if you don't already have it.
 
VenusianSky said:
So they increased the dB range for one bar. So before, if I got -119 dB, for example, it just went to No Signal. But now, I will have signal at -119dB. Is that correct?
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On iPhone 4 it should have stayed at one bar and you'd (Anandtech) see -113 dBm, they've allowed it to see past that to -121 dBm, I believe it's nothing more than just for more accuracy displaying bars.
 
MacJones said:
Great now I can do the signal drop thing on my 3GS and I haven't had more than 4 bars since I updated with an average of 3 bars. I liked my old bars that lied to me better.
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eswank said:
Is it me or did iOS 4.0.1. cause my 3GS to have low signal? Come on Apple! You fix iPhone 4 signal but screwing with 3GS?
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Since I updated to 4.0.1 with a 3GS, I notice that I am getting low reception everywhere I go. I was at Target and I had no or one bar. I get outside and have three. I am home an I get two. I agree with "MacJones" when my phone is lied to me. I average three bars with an high of four. I don't see the fifth bar light up. I am going back with the 4.0 firmware. "eswank", I agree with you that apple is screwing with us 3GS guys.
 
dankron said:
this whole thing all started on the iphone 3G when everyone was complaining about the signal issue, than they released the update 2.0.2 that supposedly fix it the issue...
https://www.macrumors.com/2008/08/28/details-of-iphone-2-0-2-firmware-3g-connectivity-improvements/

and now the cheat bit them in the a$$... and they had to go back to normal....

I can't believe the media haven't pick that up yet...

cheers,
dan
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This is what I initially thought too, but now I'm not so sure.

Apparently, the 4 has a different way of, I don't know, processing the signal, and, the AT&T formula is said to be new.

But then again, the update IS for the org 3G too, so it does make you wonder.
 
Don't know why but my 3GS has three bars vs. my mom's 3G has 5 bars. Both on AT&T. Go figure.
 
Some thoughts...

Did anyone check the iPhone bar changes back when Apple increased them the first time?

Apple's new bars are still more optimistic than some phones. For instance, they show 2 bars where a Blackberry would show 1. And they show 3 bars where a Blackberry would show 2. They're more in sync at 4 and 5 bars.

Signal bars are mostly meaningless for WCDMA-3G anyway. The overall noise floor is much more important than the pilot channel signal strength.

So why use bars at all? Some have suggested Yes-No flags. I think the reason is that it provides at least some feedback on signal-vs-location. For good example, if you move around a little and make a call from a much higher signal reception area, it's probably a good thing for you and other users of that cell, since your phone might not have to artifically raise the noise level for no good reason.
 
baryon said:
This is why I love MacRumors: An entire, detailed article about literally a couple of pixels, and how many dB are mapped to how many pixels on the new version of the iPhone 4's firmware compared to the old one. Any "normal" person would totally not care, and my girlfriend would think I'm weird if I told her I'm reading about this on a daily basis. However, this is exactly the kind of detailed stuff that interests me. And I'm not being sarcastic!
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I dont post much because i feel like my comments just become lost and ignored in the mountain of other comments, but I still come to this site simply to read these threads. I agree that its interesting that these things are talked about to the finest deggree amongst a huge range of people.

The best part is that its easy for 1 person to be wrong, but when there is 100+ people, you know you can trust their judgement.
 
Simsonic said:
In the US we can return our phone no questions asked. If we keep them we are locked in, but that is a choice. I just don't believe people should complain so loudly when they can choose a different product. Go get a pos Android device and leave us alone. I just do not believe all the negative publicity. I think we are being fed lies and the media has jumped all over bs as usual.
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So speaks the prototypical Apple fanboi. Any criticism of an Apple product is "lies." :rolleyes:

And believe it or not, many of the complainers on here are Apple fans; we *want* the iPhone to work as intended and blow the Android out of the water. That's why it gets so tiring to hear the fanbois drone on "return the phone and shut the **** up." :(
 
jrbdmb said:
we *want* the iPhone to work as intended
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What you are missing is that it may turn out that the i4 is working as intended (by Apple management), better in some circumstances, worse in others. If you actually wanted a unicorn, you will have to shop somewhere else.

My i4 gets a signal where my 3GS didn't. That's the perfect trade-off for me.
 
iJesus said:
If Apple truly did use different formula's to cover up AT&T's bad coverage, there's certainly a legal issue in the works.
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All you law dog wannabe's out there crack me the hell up. Its called marketing. What...do you think the food shown in the menu pictures actually looks identical to the stuff you unwrap when you get it home? OMG someone should sue McDonald's like every single day. They are bars, graphical elements meant to designate relative coverage strength. These aren't contractual promises represented as blue pixels.
 
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