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there are still things about pages that erk me...keynote, though is hands down much better than powerpoint
 
Thesaurus in Cocoa apps.

I think that the two big shortcomings that I find with Pages is the lack of a full mail-merge functionality, which will be fixed with the release of "Lasso" or Numbers or Charts or whatever it is and the lack of a built-in thesaurus as I really don't like to copy and paste from the system wide one. The thesaurus issue is supposed to be fixed with the next version of Pages as well.

Not sure if you knew this shortcut, if you do please forgive this redundent post. I didn't know of this shortcut for the first year of my using OSX.

The thesaurus is available to any Cocoa app.

It's easy:

1) Hover over the word in question with the mouse

2) press "Apple Key" + "Control Key" + "D"

3) Dictionary window pops up.

4) Bottom left of pop-up window, select thesaurus.

It is so super simple. I use it nearly every day. Oh yeah, the dictionary.app must be in the applications folder, if you have moved it the shortcut no longer works.
 
Microsoft Office is the future

i love macs i love the simplicity but theres nothing out there
that will topple microsoft office period.
 
i love macs i love the simplicity but theres nothing out there
that will topple microsoft office period.

As of now, you are correct.
However, don't forget Lotus 1-2-3, dbase IV and others had there day in the sun as well.
At this point, Apple does not need to "overthrow" Office, just provide as alternative.
 
i love macs i love the simplicity but theres nothing out there
that will topple microsoft office period.

I actually don't think this is true anymore. It was a year or two ago, but Apple is making such unbelievable headway in market share, I truly believe if they were to release a much-improved Pages/Keynote and bundle it with a true spreadsheet App, they would have a very large majority of Apple users signing up willingly.

Office for Mac is a horrendous, unstable, and ridiculously poor application. Word is awful, Excel can't run half the Macros that are made in the PC version, and Entourage is laughably easily to corrupt. I think with some clever engineering and a little good faith (ie. bundling the software with OS X or at least keeping the price very low) Apple could really put a dent into Office for Mac use very quickly.
 
I actually don't think this is true anymore. It was a year or two ago, but Apple is making such unbelievable headway in market share, I truly believe if they were to release a much-improved Pages/Keynote and bundle it with a true spreadsheet App, they would have a very large majority of Apple users signing up willingly.

Apple's marketshare is still too low for that to have any effect on Office sales. What will disrupt Office is the move toward internet based apps. I still believe that Office will dominate for awhile.
However, a down-tick or two of marketshare will have a dramatic effect on the stock price and on computer users perceptions about Microsoft's monopolistic dominance.
The Microsoft dam is starting to leak.
 
Apple's marketshare is still too low for that to have any effect on Office sales. What will disrupt Office is the move toward internet based apps. I still believe that Office will dominate for awhile.
However, a down-tick or two of marketshare will have a dramatic effect on the stock price and on computer users perceptions about Microsoft's monopolistic dominance.
The Microsoft dam is starting to leak.

Absolutely. I didn't mean Apple's current marketshare can dent Office sales on the whole. I meant that Apple users - Office for Mac users - they will switch in droves if iWork includes a decent spreadsheet app. I think it's virtually a lock.

But yes, the dam is starting to leak. Getting the majority of Mac users off Office and on to iWork is the next step in the process of removing MS from our lives completely. And not a moment too soon.
 
Absolutely. I didn't mean Apple's current marketshare can dent Office sales on the whole. I meant that Apple users - Office for Mac users - they will switch in droves if iWork includes a decent spreadsheet app. I think it's virtually a lock.

But yes, the dam is starting to leak. Getting the majority of Mac users off Office and on to iWork is the next step in the process of removing MS from our lives completely. And not a moment too soon.

Microsoft should be very worried about Mac users switching to iWork, (more than the value of the sales) as it means that they then only have 1 monopoly rather than two, and if iWork get's OpenXML support then it'll be 100% compatible with Office too.
 
I run a business. I send Excel files to customers. I **need** the files to be perfect, no voodoo at all, no weirdness with fonts or file conversion or print area. If it's even slightly voodoo-istic, I will not be able to use it since almost everything I do with Excel is loaded by my customers on a PC.

To be honest, I think the only way to achieve 100% Excel compatibility is to, well, use Excel.

I mean for ordinary personal stuff I'm sure cross-compatibility will be no problem. But if you are running a business in which you are constantly sending and receiving Excel files, I'd probably just bite the bullet and continue to use Excel.

It may be somewhat easier to achieve good results with Excel than Word though, since spreadsheets typically are less focused on style and formatting.
 
To be honest, I think the only way to achieve 100% Excel compatibility is to, well, use Excel.

I mean for ordinary personal stuff I'm sure cross-compatibility will be no problem. But if you are running a business in which you are constantly sending and receiving Excel files, I'd probably just bite the bullet and continue to use Excel.

It may be somewhat easier to achieve good results with Excel than Word though, since spreadsheets typically are less focused on style and formatting.


And not only Excel, but to 100% guarantee things look the same, you need to use the PC version (if you're dealing with PC customers) and you need to make sure you use a font that they have, the same screen resolution they are running, etc.
 
And not only Excel, but to 100% guarantee things look the same, you need to use the PC version (if you're dealing with PC customers) and you need to make sure you use a font that they have, the same screen resolution they are running, etc.

That's a good point. I have no problems myself, but it's not 'mission critical' stuff where I'm emailing reports to customers, etc. I have a Mac and my co-workers have PC's, and we have had no problems with inter-office compatibility.
 
Pages isn't the best for Word Processing. I'll either use TextEdit or Word. I think that it's nearly impossible for Apple to compete with the MS Office Suite. Kudos to them for trying and if they succeed with it for the Mac Market, then good for them. Still, I'll get Office 2007 as soon as it comes out and use that.
 
Pages is perfectly fine for word processing, which I know from experience as I been using it for that purpose every day for nearly two years. Most of the people who say otherwise either haven't learned to use it or would have preferred that Apple produce a Word clone. Some of are very happy that they did not go that route.
 
Pages is perfectly fine for word processing, which I know from experience as I been using it for that purpose every day for nearly two years. Most of the people who say otherwise either haven't learned to use it or would have preferred that Apple produce a Word clone. Some of are very happy that they did not go that route.

I must Second that.

Office isn't even installed on my PowerBook anymore, and I've been using Pages and Keynote quite successfully on campus (where lots of classes and professors want lots of word and powerpoints all the time) for two semesters now and am glad I made the switch. I'm excited to hear about Lasso.
 
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