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Apple's Stock on the Rise
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ethernet76 said:
Actually, if you look at a stock's history where they've had a split, the market value generally doesn't remain constant ... If the stock does a normal split, the market value usually goes up overall (ie, the price doesn't get cut in half or whatever the split is for). This is because splitting the stock is seen as a somewhat "watershed" foreward-looking statement by the company: we won't ever see those lows again.
OTOH, the "reverse split" will rarely come anywhere near close to doubling the price of the stock, and is generally a very bad idea because of that unless such a reverse split is necessary to stay listed. A reverse split is a company's vote of "no confidence" in it's stock's future. That is a very, very bad thing.
Completely off topic, but just wanted to correct the somewhat simplistic explanation of splits and reverse splits ...
jeffgarden said:what the hell !? Apple was rumored to buy Sony and this site is talking about iDVD updates ?
carletonmusic said:
Both of these made me laugh. That is all.
Chaszmyr said:Sweet, Apple stock just payed for my most recent Apple product
must have been an adaptor or cable....Apple's stock payoff rate has been pretty dismal...
talk to Warren Buffett about that
If only I could talk to Warren Buffett about ANYTHING.
Actually, I do believe that share price matters. It matters psychologically to SOME people. It shouldn't, but it does. I'd much rather buy sub $1 stocks (make most of my money there), even though it "seems" to most people that the stocks are worthless. Well some of them are.
carletonmusic said:
If only I could talk to Warren Buffett about ANYTHING.
Actually, I do believe that share price matters. It matters psychologically to SOME people. It shouldn't, but it does. I'd much rather buy sub $1 stocks (make most of my money there), even though it "seems" to most people that the stocks are worthless. Well some of them are.
reading this thread I have learned:
1. Quite a bit about the nature of stocks
2. That Apple stock is up
3. That Sony did, in fact, make that robotic dog (which I believe did well in some markets)
This leads me to believe that Apple will still be around when I buy my new machine in 6 months...and that is enough, I guess
Thanks all...
1. Quite a bit about the nature of stocks
2. That Apple stock is up
3. That Sony did, in fact, make that robotic dog (which I believe did well in some markets)
This leads me to believe that Apple will still be around when I buy my new machine in 6 months...and that is enough, I guess
Thanks all...
a reverese split(extremely rare)
Well, I did think before I commented. I have had several of my stocks do reverse splits. Especially the really ****ty ones run by corrupt bastards. Canadian gold stocks are notorious for this. One I had did a 1:10 then a 1:20. Too bad too, I had a $7500 profit on a $500 initial investment. Should have sold when I had the chance.
ethernet76 said:
Well, I did think before I commented. I have had several of my stocks do reverse splits. Especially the really ****ty ones run by corrupt bastards. Canadian gold stocks are notorious for this. One I had did a 1:10 then a 1:20. Too bad too, I had a $7500 profit on a $500 initial investment. Should have sold when I had the chance.
I read somewhere a few years ago (circa 2001) that Sony was going to buy Apple, and that article stated that Sony is always rumored on financial boards to be in the market for Apple.
It's just someone who's anti-Apple hoping it'll be done away with.
It's just someone who's anti-Apple hoping it'll be done away with.
Does anyone know how that would work ? If Sony bought Apple that is...
i'm guessing since THAT rumor isn't on macrumors that it's something that's always been around. So do they want to do like what HP does with Compaq ? Where they still use both names and it's just one company ?
i'm guessing since THAT rumor isn't on macrumors that it's something that's always been around. So do they want to do like what HP does with Compaq ? Where they still use both names and it's just one company ?
Murders and Aquisitions
Ah, sounds like Wall Street in here. Key the line from Michael Douglas: Greed is Good. So many murders and aquisitions going on again, it's starting to look a lot like the roaring 80's and er.. 90's and er.. well, M&As always come and go in fits and starts. Looks like we're in for a slew of others. Although exciting, always fraught with danger (Reference TW-AOL). Key worries are mission drift of a successful company, meddling of Big Brother company in acquisition's affairs... Perhaps shortsighted, but why jinx Apple's current winning streak.
And as for all you stock-owning capitalist moneymongerers... all I need is my typewriter, a 10'x10' cabin in the Minnesota woods, and a soapbox. Down with capitalism, free trade, the IMF, and the WTO!! Everyone should die poor, happy and stockless. Fight on, comrades...
(I'm just trying to get people to dump their AAPL shares so's I can buy cheap and sell high.) Go AAPL!
Ah, sounds like Wall Street in here. Key the line from Michael Douglas: Greed is Good. So many murders and aquisitions going on again, it's starting to look a lot like the roaring 80's and er.. 90's and er.. well, M&As always come and go in fits and starts. Looks like we're in for a slew of others. Although exciting, always fraught with danger (Reference TW-AOL). Key worries are mission drift of a successful company, meddling of Big Brother company in acquisition's affairs... Perhaps shortsighted, but why jinx Apple's current winning streak.
And as for all you stock-owning capitalist moneymongerers... all I need is my typewriter, a 10'x10' cabin in the Minnesota woods, and a soapbox. Down with capitalism, free trade, the IMF, and the WTO!! Everyone should die poor, happy and stockless. Fight on, comrades...
(I'm just trying to get people to dump their AAPL shares so's I can buy cheap and sell high.) Go AAPL!
onemoof said:
I don't believe for a minute that Apple is going to buy Sony.
I'm not suggesting that it's a good idea either...but everyone saying that it (as well as Apple buying Disney) is *impossible* (particularly the ones saying it as though they are superior thinkers) due to relative valuations live in small boxes!
LBO?
Sometimes, a minnow *can* swallow a whale. Particularly when the minnow has a lot of cash, the whale has a lot of profits, and interest rates are low.
How?
The minnow finances the acquisition with the whale's profits.
It is very likely that Apple will buy parts of Sony. Why? Well Sony has an enormous amount of assets that could be extremely valuable to Apple, i.e. factories to make devices, contracts with manufacturers, and most importantly intellectual capitol. Apple could use these to futher development and production of there current, and future, iPod line. Or... use Sony's industry leading know how, regarding video processing, for a Video iPod that seems to be popping up in message boards everywhere.
How is it that this can happen, well while it is true that Apple is worth $10 Billion, it carries more wieght than that. Especially now that it is debt free and has a credit rating that most of us would kill for. Apple can use that to buy small peices of Sony, since people would be more willing to lend Apple money to do so, especially if Apple can deliver (like 70% market share in new market segments). Jobs would have alot to gain from Sony's media companies, since he severed ties with Disney. With all mentioned I can imagine Apple/Pixar bringing alot to the table for a troubled Sony Corp. Sony would be more than happy to partner with Apple, which would be better for the both of them. If it turns out to be a partnership then Sony gets to ride the coattails of Apple, and Apple would not have to worry about supporting an all new company under its belt. And if things go astray than Apple can dump Sony with no committment. The same way that GM will probably do with FIAT.
"of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.."
How is it that this can happen, well while it is true that Apple is worth $10 Billion, it carries more wieght than that. Especially now that it is debt free and has a credit rating that most of us would kill for. Apple can use that to buy small peices of Sony, since people would be more willing to lend Apple money to do so, especially if Apple can deliver (like 70% market share in new market segments). Jobs would have alot to gain from Sony's media companies, since he severed ties with Disney. With all mentioned I can imagine Apple/Pixar bringing alot to the table for a troubled Sony Corp. Sony would be more than happy to partner with Apple, which would be better for the both of them. If it turns out to be a partnership then Sony gets to ride the coattails of Apple, and Apple would not have to worry about supporting an all new company under its belt. And if things go astray than Apple can dump Sony with no committment. The same way that GM will probably do with FIAT.
"of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.."
ethernet76 said:
Likewise.
You don't seem to realize that I am only being elated because their stock went up temporarily. I AM NOT saying that Apple has more money in the bank than MSFT, or that, due to splits, Apple stock is worth more. I am only expressing happiness because I like seeing Apple "win" in a kinda-sorta way.
Understand?
Ps3? lets hope not
Apple PS3?!?!? good god hope not, the last thing we want is a nicely designed machine with really crap games, out of date hardware and bad dvd playing capabilities.
macmx said:Apple PlayStation 3 anyone??
Apple PS3?!?!? good god hope not, the last thing we want is a nicely designed machine with really crap games, out of date hardware and bad dvd playing capabilities.
Hi,
I have not read thru the entire thread so I hope this is not a double post - if so sorry. I guess the interesting figures concerning aapl and msft are:
Apple Mkt Cap (mil) : $9,886.58
MSFT Mkt Cap (mil) : $284,432.27
from quicken.com as of march 5th and the chart I attached.
Cheers
I have not read thru the entire thread so I hope this is not a double post - if so sorry. I guess the interesting figures concerning aapl and msft are:
Apple Mkt Cap (mil) : $9,886.58
MSFT Mkt Cap (mil) : $284,432.27
from quicken.com as of march 5th and the chart I attached.
Cheers
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