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blackfox said:
reading this thread I have learned:
1. Quite a bit about the nature of stocks
2. That Apple stock is up
3. That Sony did, in fact, make that robotic dog (which I believe did well in some markets)
This leads me to believe that Apple will still be around when I buy my new machine in 6 months...and that is enough, I guess
Thanks all...

The most important thing is that Apple Stocks is up! ;)

Yes, Apple will be around in six months and long into the future. The race goes to the slow and steady.
 
OnceUGoMac said:
That would be interesting. I would like to see SONY and Apple work together.

wasn't the pb 100 just a sony clone with an apple sticker on it (I have one)
 
Wasting your time....

sethypoo said:
Likewise.

You don't seem to realize that I am only being elated because their stock went up temporarily. I AM NOT saying that Apple has more money in the bank than MSFT, or that, due to splits, Apple stock is worth more. I am only expressing happiness because I like seeing Apple "win" in a kinda-sorta way.

Understand?

I understand, and I'm sure a lot of other forum readers do.

But certain people never will, Seth, no matter how many times you explain. :)
 
ralphh said:
I understand, and I'm sure a lot of other forum readers do.

But certain people never will, Seth, no matter how many times you explain. :)

Thanks for the kind word.

I know not everyone will always understand, but I needed to at least have one post fully explaining myself.

I wish I had myself some Apple stock. :)
 
Hector said:
wasn't the pb 100 just a sony clone with an apple sticker on it (I have one)

My father has one too, from about December 1991. Amazingly it stills works, though it needs to be run from the mains as the battery has long since departed. The PB 100 is quite a quaint little thing by today's standards, with a whopping 20 MB (megabytes!) of hard drive space and 4 MB of RAM.

It wasn't a Sony clone, it was made in a Sony factory on contract from Apple, just as the Taiwanese manufacturers like Quanta make Apple's PowerBooks today. Sony at the time hadn't even begun to market its own computers.
 
oh apple....

too bad all this good progress will be wasted in only a few really bad decisions in the near future... such is the fate of apple. this sucks... now i'm depressed... :(
 
rdowns said:
Not to mention "spelt".

There is nothing wrong with the spelling of spelt merely because you don't recognise the correct form. :D

Will we see Apple at $75 per share ever again? I would certainly hope they gain interest again.
 
nuclearwinter said:
too bad all this good progress will be wasted in only a few really bad decisions in the near future... such is the fate of apple. this sucks... now i'm depressed... :(

Wow... such optimism! I'm sure apple will continue to be profitable in their niches. they may even get a break and grab a bunch of marketshare once the xbox2 comes out and ibm reduces prices on their G5s due to volume.
 
michaelb said:
Sony at the time hadn't even begun to market its own computers.

That's right. I think the first Vaio was a desktop and (I think) it was in 1996. I had a boss that was lusting after one.

ibjoshua
 
Tulse said:
I'm sure that Sony would want to keep Steve -- my point was that I doubted that Steve wants to work for Sony (or anyone). I also think that an organization like Sony would be crazy to want Steve as an underling -- he doesn't "play well with others". (And, for that matter, ask Gil Amelio about the dangers management faces when buying a Steve-run company.)

Trust me- Sony has a bunch of Steve's...but we need more of them here. it's a mess in management. Decisiveness is missing in certain areas. I would love Steve as our CEO.
 
uberman42 said:
Trust me- Sony has a bunch of Steve's...but we need more of them here. it's a mess in management. Decisiveness is missing in certain areas. I would love Steve as our CEO.

I somehow think that Sony's CEO might have a different view.
 
Mr.Hey said:
YOu got to love the feeling you get from seeing APPL stock clime so quickly. Everything has been so positive for Apple lately.....I hope it continues, God knows they deserve it.


I like the way you put it, and completely agree with you.
 
luggnutt said:
If Apple and MS have similarly priced individual stocks, you can bet the farm that there are many many many times more MS stock on the market.

Apple's (AAPL) market cap is around 10 billion. Microsoft (MSFT) market cap is 284 billion. Far from similar.

At least it beats SCO (SCOX) whose market cap is like 160 million.
 
Read this (from yahoo.com):

The iPod mini, which comes in five different colors, has been particularly popular with women, teenagers and fitness-minded people because of its small size and multihued offerings. It has reportedly been selling out quickly in some retail locations.

"The word of mouth on this product is very strong," said Tim Bajarin, an analyst at Creative Strategies, who noted that he has so far spoken to 10 Apple dealers so far about the reaction to the iPod mini. "Customers are literally coming in (to the store) and they know exactly what color they want."

Shares of Apple rose $1.58, or 6.3 percent, to $26.74 on Nasdaq, in trading of 27.5 million shares, more than five times its three-month daily average. The stock has climbed 25 percent so far this year. Earlier, the shares rose as high as $27.49.

Apple spokesman Steve Dowling declined to comment.

On its Web site, Cupertino, California-based Apple says that after ordering an iPod mini, customers would need to wait one to three weeks for it to arrive.

Since their introduction in 2001, Apple has sold more than 2 million of the digital music players, which use small computer hard disk drives to store digital music, as opposed to flash-memory-based, smaller capacity players made by other manufacturers.

Also earlier this week, Merrill Lynch analyst Steve Milunovich wrote favorably of the iPod in a research report, estimating that it could bring in $1 billion in revenue this year, adding 15 cents per share to its earnings.

Chief Executive and founder Steve Jobs has proved time and again that he has a keen eye for noting technology trends among consumers and capitalizing on them, analysts said.

"Steve really understands what the pulse of the consumer market is, and he's got a strategy to go after that with an Apple brand," Bajarin said, noting that that's precisely why a Sony bid for Apple would make no sense.

"To me, that's the last thing he'd want to do is get mixed up with Sony," Bajarin said. "They are (Sony and Apple) just diametrically opposed to how they would run the business."
 
not buy out; co-operation

here is what will happen:

- sony and apple will form a strategic alliance
- sony will design/manufacture digital lifestyle appliances for apple
- sony will invest a significant chunck of cash into apple, but not have anywhere near controlling interest
- iTunes Store music business be handled by Sony they are in the music business already

Clues:
- Does anybody remember the announcment a few days ago that was retracted the next day: Sony was going to do its own new mp3 player, then suddenly it was retracted...
- Sony has announced that it wants to get into the on-line music business...
- what does apple need most: more more lifestyle devices that run its operating system and its design vision.
- recently it was revealed that both companies are looking for ways to co-operate with each other in more areas

Share price will be enhanced; and distribution will be gained.
 
niji said:
here is what will happen:

- sony and apple will form a strategic alliance
- sony will design/manufacture digital lifestyle appliances for apple
- sony will invest a significant chunck of cash into apple, but not have anywhere near controlling interest
- iTunes Store music business be handled by Sony they are in the music business already

Clues:
- Does anybody remember the announcment a few days ago that was retracted the next day: Sony was going to do its own new mp3 player, then suddenly it was retracted...
- Sony has announced that it wants to get into the on-line music business...
- what does apple need most: more more lifestyle devices that run its operating system and its design vision.
- recently it was revealed that both companies are looking for ways to co-operate with each other in more areas

Share price will be enhanced; and distribution will be gained.

- I can't see the logic in this. Sony would probably sell enough "digital lifestyle" appliances under their own branding. Why do they need to sell them under the Apple brand? (especially in non-US markets where the Apple brand doesn't mean anything)
- Steve Jobs would never work in a bureaucracy like Sony and would probably end up walking.
- I hope all your favourite music is published by Sony Music. IF Sony ran iTunes Store not many other publishers would get a look in.
 
Bigheadache said:
- I can't see the logic in this. Sony would probably sell enough "digital lifestyle" appliances under their own branding. Why do they need to sell them under the Apple brand? (especially in non-US markets where the Apple brand doesn't mean anything)
- Steve Jobs would never work in a bureaucracy like Sony and would probably end up walking.
- I hope all your favourite music is published by Sony Music. IF Sony ran iTunes Store not many other publishers would get a look in.

Agreed. Now, if Steve CASE were involved, you could bank on a pointless merger, but Steve JOBS is too smart to tie himself to a run-of-the-mill mega-conglomerate.
 
rdowns said:
Smaller companies buy out larger companies. Some ways include selling off pieces to others (Sony Pictures could go, Pixar could be involved). I bet there are many Sony competitors who would be interested in buying a piece of them.

That said, I doubt Apple will ever buy Sony or voce cersa.

interesting idea. It could be possible to do a multiparty deal...

combine the cash forces of Pixar, Apple, and the recently Eisner free Disney in a deal that sees Apple with the Sony consumer electronics division (inclusive of PCs), and Disney-Pixar getting Sony media en toto possibly even splitting the song catalog with Apple.

But that is just idle thinking..

However it does tickle me to think of Sony buying Apple and leaving Steve in charge. Can you say "palace coup"? Steve takes over the zaibatsu and its team of corporate ninjas....they pay a visit to a large home in Medina Wa....
 
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