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Wow that's amazing I heard something like that before but never really looked into it. In the uk you are taxed the same no matter when you buy or sell. I should seriously think about moving my shares to a US brokerage and moving to the states for a year just to get the lower tax rate.

Well, for now the long term capital gains rate for those in the top tax bracket is 20%. But there's also a net investment income tax of 3.8% for high income earners that was included in the Affordable Care Act (aka ObamaCare). Then, depending on the state, there is state level taxation of capital gains.
 
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Sheez what do you want them to do - build an invisible jet that travels through time and space? They make sexy laptops and super solid iPhones and innovate in a multitude of behind the scenes ways. Everyone wants a new magic toy every year. But I don't quite see any other company building shiny new magic toys every year ? If companies do then why do they still copy apple ? I dred to think what these haters were like as children each xmas.


I want them to blow my mind, i don't think they can , they can't even seem to get out a faulty free product (#gates) and all the "innovations" since iPad and even IPad has shown to be a fad item , the rest have been "Meh" and stringing iPod out to infinity , they are as bad a Taco Bell with new items based on the same three ingredients
 
Wouldn't that be "intra day" high?

Today was a closing high. When the article says "true high" it should have said "intraday high." A "true high" is... oh, never mind.
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Agreed. If I owned APPL I would sell it at this point and then buy again when it dipped.

Because you are smarter than the markets. Good luck with that approach.
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that's with a ridiculously small P/E ratio of 16. To put in perspective , Google and Microsoft are at 30 and Amazon is at an unjustifiable 170.

PE is not a magic number. To derive any meaning from it, you have to take in revenue and earnings growth, at a minimum. Apple has not been growing either one enough to justify a higher PE.
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Nicely done! Unfortunately many people will see today's news and decide to buy Apple tomorrow, when they should have done what you did. Try to buy when everyone else is scared, and hold or sell when everyone is really excited again.

Good luck with your market timing. Even the pros can't do it successfully but I'm sure you have the edge.
 
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Well, for now the long term capital gains rate for those in the top tax bracket is 20%. But there's also a net investment income tax of 3.8% for high income earners that was included in the Affordable Care Act (aka ObamaCare). Then, depending on the state, there is state level taxation of capital gains.
Thanks for the info. Appreciated
 
I want them to blow my mind, i don't think they can , they can't even seem to get out a faulty free product (#gates) and all the "innovations" since iPad and even IPad has shown to be a fad item , the rest have been "Meh" and stringing iPod out to infinity , they are as bad a Taco Bell with new items based on the same three ingredients
Ha ha Taco Bell! That's funny. I see your point to a degree in that Apple are coming to be known as an iterative as opposed to revolutionary product building company. But it is a tall order to build mind blowing products as you put it so frequently despite whatever cash hoard. They normally come in 7 year cycles. We are due one soon. Have faith my friend. Your days of dieting on Taco Bell will soon be over.
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Apple will struggle once the Mobile high end heats up, they are not positioned well in the Cloud either. This could very well be the peak of Apple as 2017 approached 2018 it will be apparent in the decline. Lots of "good news " for Apl and in reality its bad news ..iPhone should have clobbered Android and it failed to do so even with the best possible scenario..that says a lot about its future.

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Pretty sure Surface Pro LTE will do the same.
Have you just copied and pasted the same quote from every apple analyst for the last 10 years ? (Where's the emoji for eyes looking up to heaven when you want it )
 
Well, for now the long term capital gains rate for those in the top tax bracket is 20%. But there's also a net investment income tax of 3.8% for high income earners that was included in the Affordable Care Act (aka ObamaCare). Then, depending on the state, there is state level taxation of capital gains.

Most are going to pay 15% federal on long term capital gains. The higher rate doesn't kick in until $418,400 in income.
 
Anybody know how to buy Apple's stock? I was going to buy when it was at an "all time low" and I can see that that would've been an AMAZING investment if I had done so.
 
Hi I take it you are in the states? What do you mean by 'long term' capital gains? Here in the U.K. it is 28% at any time (until this year they lowered it to 20%)
Our tax policy right now is a short term gain is taxed at ordinary income rates (39.7% + state tax (8% in CA) and long term is 1 year hold or more is taxed at I think 23.7% (including a surcharge for Obamacare), which is being reduced to a historical rate near 15% in FY 2018.

In UK ordinary income is 20% and I forget what your long term cap gains tax rate is. It might be the same.
 
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"Good luck with your market timing. Even the pros can't do it successfully but I'm sure you have the edge."


I never said anything about "market timing." I'm generally a fan of dollar cost averaging when it comes to the overall market: (buy the S&P 500 at regular intervals). I also wouldn't typically recommend buying a single stock (not the market) after a ~30% increase in value in such a short period. But hey, if you want to buy Apple tomorrow, go right ahead. I'll be the first to congratulate you when you get your next ~30% gain.
 
Silicon: Qualcomm/Intel/ARM
Industrial processes: HP+Microsoft
Accessibility: Microsoft
Health: Microsoft
Stores/Support: Microsoft's OEM network same for support.

Apl users better not sleep on Microsoft+ OEMs when they really focus on Mobile it won't be pretty for Apl, we already see it in every other sector look at Macs and iPads. Apl has had little real challenge at high end, that will change and change soon.

Keep in mind these "mind blowing #'s" are based on a declining group of humans Iphone globally . Iphone saturation globally has actually decreased and holds at about 12% almost single digits. Last year the stars aligned this year I doubt it.

Count me as sleeping on Microsoft. Frankly, I don't get how they are trading at their multiples of earnings. Basically Microsoft makes an OS and software. Their competitors give away their versions and the OSes Android and iOS are more used. I'm not sure who spends their own personal money to buy programs for Windows anymore except PC gamers. I don't hear about anyone programming for Windows (again except PC games). Everything is an App for iOS these days. When I do something on my Windows machine frenquently my only option is to do it through a browser. But on iOS I have an App that works faster.

Yes, the Office suite is amazing and an industry leader. Trust me I use that. But I came up in a different time. Are there 20-year olds drafting documents in Word? Aren't they using free or cheap options? In the U.S. everyone I know uses a Mac at home. That is what they spend their own money on. And I'm not sure how long that will last with iOS and its devices getting more powerful.
 
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Apple is doomed I tell ya'll whippersnappers!

Once again showing the lack of understanding between a company that is growing/trending up and a stock price. Their sales were down from last year by double digits across the board this year on the flagship products. And it is the 3rd consecutive year for the iPads. First year for the iPhone, which is a bigger deal. If you think they are going in the right direction, you need to get back to classes.
 
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My most recent traunch was purchased at $88 and change (various close prices as fills happened). I posted here and suggested other folks consider doing the same. So there was some head's up. Now that portion of the position is up about 50.6% and now qualifies for long term capital gains treatment come May 2017.

The house in congress says they will be substantially lowering capital gains taxes next year, which will increase the overall gain by about 15% due to lower taxation.

Sounds legit. Do you have any current buy recommendations?
 
Count me as sleeping on Microsoft. Frankly, I don't get how they are trading at their multiples of earnings. Basically Microsoft makes an OS and software. Their competitors give away their versions and the OSes Android and iOS are more used. I'm not sure who spends their own personal money to buy programs for Windows anymore except PC gamers. I don't hear about anyone programming for Windows (again except PC games). Everything is an App for iOS these days. When I do something on my Windows machine frenquently my only option is to do it through a browser. But on iOS I have an App that works faster.

Yes, the Office suite is amazing and an industry leader. Trust me I use that. But I came up in a different time. Are there 20-year olds drafting documents in Word? Aren't they using free or cheap options? In the U.S. everyone I know uses a Mac at home. That is what they spend their own money on. And I'm not sure how long that will last with iOS and its devices getting more powerful.

Microsoft is the worlds predominate group of coders. They also successfully pivoted not only their main business but also the culture. You understand Office, do you realise Office 365 is the most profitable piece of software ever written? Then there is the cloud Azure which ALL companies will be utilizing to great extent in the next 0-10 years. They along with AWS and Google own the cloud space. Then add in Gaming and all the money there.

See you are trapped to an extent thinking its Apple and Samsung. That's so far off how the world works its obtuse thinking. Mobile is important sure, so is cloud hence "Cloud First Mobile First" the Microsoft goals under Nadella.
 
and the Dow is at an all time high too. The next bubble is slowly starting to grow. Anyone notice that the stock market took off after the election? The stock market is nothing but hopes + and fears -.
 
Congratulations, i did the same around $90, but didn't have the nerve to hang on to it and got out just above $120 ... i hope it tanks in late summer (like in Jul/Aug 2015).

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If only I can predict the future...
 
Ha ha Taco Bell! That's funny. I see your point to a degree in that Apple are coming to be known as an iterative as opposed to revolutionary product building company. But it is a tall order to build mind blowing products as you put it so frequently despite whatever cash hoard. They normally come in 7 year cycles. We are due one soon. Have faith my friend.

No, the revolutionary products are already on the horizon, but Apple is not the lead this time. The self-driving cars, the AI assistants at home, the VR solutions. Apple on these fronts is playing catch at the best, but at a very far distance behind the leaders.
 
Our tax policy right now is a short term gain is taxed at ordinary income rates (39.7% + state tax (8% in CA) and long term is 1 year hold or more is taxed at I think 23.7% (including a surcharge for Obamacare), which is being reduced to a historical rate near 15% in FY 2018.

In UK ordinary income is 20% and I forget what your long term cap gains tax rate is. It might be the same.

California is 13.3% at the high end regardless of whether its long term or short term. https://www.nerdwallet.com/ask/ques...implications-on-long-term-capital-gains-27615
 
Anybody know how to buy Apple's stock? I was going to buy when it was at an "all time low" and I can see that that would've been an AMAZING investment if I had done so.
My story: I'm a school teacher, not a rich person at all. In the 1990s I opened an Ameritrade investment account and I purchased Apple stock (APPL). I invested about $16,000 in Apple stock over about a five year period and I have never sold a single share, I just let it ride and I collect about $5,500 a year in Apple dividends which has paid for my initial investment in the stock plus it pays for every Apple product that I have ever purchased. Today my Apple stock is worth $326,708 before taxes which is a gain of 1,969%.
 
"Good luck with your market timing. Even the pros can't do it successfully but I'm sure you have the edge."


I never said anything about "market timing." I'm generally a fan of dollar cost averaging when it comes to the overall market: (buy the S&P 500 at regular intervals). I also wouldn't typically recommend buying a single stock (not the market) after a ~30% increase in value in such a short period. But hey, if you want to buy Apple tomorrow, go right ahead. I'll be the first to congratulate you when you get your next ~30% gain.

Au contraire. "Try to buy when everyone else is scared, and hold or sell when everyone is really excited again," is a working definition of trying to time the market. It assumes you know the right moments to buy and sell. Even the pros have a poor track record trying to guess the right entry and exit points.

But hey, I bought my AAPL in 1997 and held most of it and my return is somewhat short of 30,000%, so what do I know?
 
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