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What about build quality? And a camera? And speakers? And not having that crappy Dell logo?
Might be a shock to some iFanatics, but there are some of us who are really only concerned with how monitors look from the front, and don't really give a rat's ass about features that are already surpassed by other peripherals that we already own.
 
People here are confused. Scaling is fine at 4k or any pixel dimensions, as long as the resolution, the DPI is right.

The sweet spot for a 20-22" monitor is 4k, for a 27" monitor it is 5k, for a 30-32" monitor it is 6k. This keeps the DPI at around 220 PPI which makes macOS happy, so that it can scale at 2x, and keeps everything extremely sharp.

You seem confused about the performance of the human eye. Displays don't keep on getting sharper as you crank up the PPI. At some point your eyes can't tell the difference.

I have physically sat down in front of side-by-side 163 ppi, 185 ppi, and 218ppi screens. They were all very sharp. Have you?
 
My work bought me this monitor. It's pretty nice for what I need. Big upgrade from the old 27" cinema display I used to have. That thing was like working next to a campfire.

I like the built-in ethernet port, because I was able to get rid of a separate thunderbolt dock I used to have on my desk.
The stand is a bit wobbly, and shakes when I type.
 
Why would manufacturers build something that hardly anybody would buy?

1) Unless it has an Apple logo on it and has the exact specs on it that Apple says are important, few Mac users would buy it.

2) 5k offers little advantage over 4k to users of operating systems that can handle fractional scaling properly, so non-Mac users would see no real value in it.
Because I'm selfish of course!

I don't like 4K because it doesn't provide enough on-screen real estate at 2X scaling. I prefer 5K for the additional pixels. However, I find the 27" size too small for 5K, unless I sit really close, but I don't like sitting that close. (I have a 5K iMac.)

For me, the sweet spot would be about 30" 5K. I know I won't get one any time soon, but it can't hurt to dream...

4K on the 30" size I'd want would not look very good fractionally scaled.


I think by chance (because I wasn't aware they were doing that until recently) the laptops I've owned since they went Retina were all at 2x scaling in their default "native" mode. And in addition laptop screens, at least from Apple, have an even higher PPI anyway than their desktop displays, so that may be helping to minimise the problem even in the cases where they are using non-2x scaling.

MacBook Air 2019, 2560x1600 227ppi
MacBook Pro 13" 2015 2560x1600 227ppi
MacBook 12" 2015 2304x1440 226ppi

I'm not certain about the default mode of the 12" MacBook, but I'm pretty sure the others were a default "Looks like 1280x800" screen mode.
That's why I said last 5 years. A lot of the defaults were changed in 2017.

IIRC, MacBook Air 2019 defaults to 1440x900 - Not 2X scaling. <-- I don't have one on hand anymore to confirm but you can check this yourself. (We won one of these in a raffle. :) However, we sold it because we didn't have a use for it.)
MacBook Pro 13" 2015 defaults to 1280x800 - 2X scaling. My daughter's running it at 1440x900 though and it looks great.
MacBook 2015 defaults to 1152x720 - 2X scaling.
MacBook 2017 defaults to 1280x800 - Not 2X scaling.

Then Apple changed things again in 2021 with the MacBook Pros, by increasing the pixel densities of the screens to 254 ppi.
 
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While I appreciate a review of a non Apple, and relatively affordable monitor, there is no true comparison to be made as this is a 4K monitor.

There are very few 5k and 6k monitors on the market, hence the reason the prices are always so high. For those who have 5k displays, there is no going back to alert resolution.
 
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I had a similar 2013 27“ iMac, and when I got a 2014 5K iMac at work, the display was much better.

Similar experience here. As a photographer who edits photos daily the difference was noticeable the moment I sat down and started working on my images. Would never go back to a 4K display. I am looking forward to a larger 6K display in the future.
 
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I gotta say- I have a very similar Dell (older one without the usb c hub for $300) right next to the studio display. I set the dell to scaled to match 5k, and I just can’t see the pixels or any noticeable lag due to the scaling. I’m happy I have the studio display because of the color accuracy when I need it, and I understand that there are features that some want in it.

I do have trouble understanding why some CAN’T understand why many, probably most, wouldn’t see the worth in the extra 1k pixels and cost. The reason why people keep saying “why don’t you try this 4K monitor instead” is because for a non-tech person they probably can’t see the difference. I barely can and I want to!
It's hard for many to understand why not everyone wants to fork over $1600 for a 7 year old panel that doesn't raise up or down like every other monitor in 2022. Folks that spend that money will defend it all day long like it was the only buying choice there was.
 
I actually like the deisgn of the Dell display. Definitely think it's above average for a display and the Dell logo isn't so bad being quite discreet there close to the foot of the stand.

Not that far from the Studio Display (at least in photos and videos) which also has that big hole for the cables in the stand that seems to be visible quite often, at least in videos of it. Maybe not a problem when using it and looking down at it from an angle.
 
At some point Apple decided to gimp the display scaling technology in their OS. Scaling 4k works perfectly fine in other OS's.

Yeah, it's super frustrating.

The scaling is so much for flexible and sharper and just "better" for me on the windows side of my Hackintosh
 
I don’t understand why people think macOS does fractional scaling poorly… I’ve been using Retina MacBooks for years at fractional scaling and never had an issue. Same with a Mac mini and a 27’ 4K monitor.

It's not that it doesn't work, but it's not as sharp as it could/should be if you compare similar scaling sizes on the same machine+monitor in Windows

(I do this dance every night when I boot over to Windows for gaming, so I get direct and consistent exposure to the differences)
 
Nitpick: Pro Display XDR is IPS, just like the Studio Display, but with dimming zones. Also, Pro Display XDR is not mini-LED.
The XDR uses an array of small LEDs to produce local dimming zones. they may not be technically small enough to qualify as "mini" but it's not like it isn't a very similar technology. XDR small-LED maybe? :)
 
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I hope is the camera the one with dead pixels and not the Dell monitor LOL

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...and the Dell logo isn't so bad being quite discreet there close to the foot of the stand.
And for people who don't want to see a Dell logo all day while working on their monitor, they can use some of the money they saved and buy a decent VESA mount arm. Voila! No more ugly Dell logo staring at you!

And unlike some other monitor brands, you don't have to make that decision at the time of purchase, nor do you have to go to a special service center to make your monitor compatible with a VESA mount! It's all right there, in the box!
 
You seem confused about the performance of the human eye. Displays don't keep on getting sharper as you crank up the PPI. At some point your eyes can't tell the difference.

I have physically sat down in front of side-by-side 163 ppi, 185 ppi, and 218ppi screens. They were all very sharp. Have you?
If you compare small text on those monitors, the difference is obvious right away. You can easily read text on a 218ppi screen that you cannot on a 163ppi screen.
 
I said yuck on Studio Display launch day too. Until Apple gets something 120Hz+ out. Just like our MacBook Pro 14 Promotion.

My work laptop is a 2020 model stuck in 60Hz output and I definitely tell the stutters.

Ahh - gotcha.

I agree with you by the way (I'm on 4k/144hz/IPS myself)
 
The XDR uses an array of small LEDs to produce local dimming zones. they may not be technically small enough to qualify as "mini" but it's not like it isn't a very similar technology. XDR small-LED maybe? :)
Yes. I guess one way to look at it is that mini-LED is FALD, but FALD is not necessarily mini-LED.

Pro XDR is FALD, but the dimming zones are not small enough to qualify as mini-LED.

Like I said, a nitpick. ;)
 
The reason Apple went with 220dpi is because it was double the 110dpi they designed OS-X for, so they could do x2 scaling without changing the size of UI elements. It had nothing to do with biological limits, or there being a magical sharpness line above/below 220dpi.

^^^ ding ding ding... we have a winner folks!
 
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