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I just got a ASD last week and absolutely love it. I was previously using a Dell 27" 4K. The ASD was more of an upgrade that I expected. Not only does it look better, WindowServer on my MBP uses less CPU and memory than when connected to the Dell.
 
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27" 4k is not retina. Over and out.
Spoiler alert: 'retina' doesn't exist. It's a marketing-term Apple came up with regarding what DPI they thought was acceptable for a device you typically hold about 6"-8" from your face so you don't see the dots unless you look real, real close. But in reality that's going to be different for everyone. Exactly how close are you sitting to a 27" monitor where the difference between a 3840 X 2160 display and a 5120×2880 display is such a big issue?
 
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Spoiler alert: 'retina' doesn't exist. It's a marketing-term Apple came up with regarding what DPI they thought was acceptable for a device you typically hold about 6"-8" from your face so you don't see the dots unless you look real, real close. But in reality that's going to be different for everyone. Exactly how close are you sitting to a 27" monitor where the difference between a 3840 X 2160 display and a 5120×2880 display is such a big issue?
Not who you’re replying to, but when using Max OS’s native “scaled” resolution, 4K vs 5K is a night and day difference in clarity. I worked with 2 4K displays for the longest time. Eventually bit and bought 2 LG UltraFine 5Ks after seeing the difference on a 5K iMac. I don’t know if I can ever go back to something less than 5K with a screen that size. And it’s a shame, because just about no one makes them.
 
AFAIK the Dell monitor is certified DisplayHDR-400, which is in fact quite a low HDR standard, but a HDR standard still.

Said that, I think Apple's display could also obtain DisplayHDR-400 certification if Apple wanted to. I guess Apple doesn't consider such certification significant enough to bother.
Would add another £400 to the price
 
27" 4k is not retina. Over and out.
Is this sarcasm?

I have a 28" 4K ASUS display connected to my 14" MacBook via a Targus TB3 dock and I'd defy you to discern individual pixels at any viewing distance. I run it scaled at the second largest setting and it's perfect.

I'm sure a 5K display would be nicer, and of course Apple's $1600 display should be better than any $700 display or my $200 ASUS PB287Q at 60hz, but I'd just as soon keep the $1000 in my pocket.
 
Why are so many of you stretching so hard to "define" what Retina is? There is no industry standard definition for it, as it is an Apple marketing term and nothing more. Retina means whatever Tim Cook tells you it means. No more, no less.
Actually Steve Jobs defined Retina on stage when he introduced the iPhone 4. Which was basically, any resolution where individual pixels can't be seen at normal viewing distances.
 
Not who you’re replying to, but when using Max OS’s native “scaled” resolution, 4K vs 5K is a night and day difference in clarity. I worked with 2 4K displays for the longest time. Eventually bit and bought 2 LG UltraFine 5Ks after seeing the difference on a 5K iMac. I don’t know if I can ever go back to something less than 5K with a screen that size. And it’s a shame, because just about no one makes them.
sure you cant but they dont understand this here! If you work with adobe soft, musicsoftware of 3d applications you need the desktopspace! 4k is way too low in resolution.
 
Actually Steve Jobs defined Retina on stage when he introduced the iPhone 4. Which was basically, any resolution where individual pixels can't be seen at normal viewing distances.
Good for Steve. That doesn't change the fact that it is nothing more than a marketing term. There's no "Retina Display Consortium" comprised of independent reviewers or engineers who have collectively determined an industry standard measurement for declaring a display as "Retina". There's just a guy and a marketing department that came up with a pseudo-scientific sounding term so they could justify a higher price for a phone (and later, a monitor).

Watching you guys talk about non-Apple displays not "being Retina" is like watching car enthusiasts complain that a Dodge Ram doesn't have fahrvergnügen. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so very sad.
 
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27" 4k is not retina. Over and out.

For me, the thing with "Retina" is that once you're used to it, it's hard to go back. Being perfectly content with a "lowly" 4K, I am staying away 5+K monitors for the time being.

I did that when I stayed with my older iPhone and iPad when "Retina" came out. I could still use my work devices without barfing...
 
sure you cant but they dont understand this here! If you work with adobe soft, musicsoftware of 3d applications you need the desktopspace! 4k is way too low in resolution.
You do know that people have been working in all of those applications for literally decades before 4k was even a thing, don't you? And you also do realize that the vast majority of people working in those industries today do so without a 5k+ monitor.

There are a lot of very good, well calibrated monitors that are 4k and work perfectly fine in literally all creative fields. As much as Apple tries (and succeeds, apparently) to convince its customers that they have a monopoly on the creative industry, that couldn't be farther from the truth.
 
Personally, I would like a 6K 27” monitor. I have a 4K 27” LG IPS display (which cost me $300k and has an awful ‘HDR 400’ mode that is better never used) and putting it in ‘scaled 1440p’ doesn’t give me enough workspace, I need more than that. Scaling it a notch higher to 6k-like is nice but blurry. Oh and it would need to be OLED, have Atmos speakers and cost 1k. See you in twenty years?
I'm sure for $300K you should be able to get all of that :)
 
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Would add another £400 to the price
Not likely. It might add a bit to Apple's cost, but probably would not provide enough justification to increase the price further. The Studio Display is already priced at what Apple determined the optimum price for a 27" Apple branded monitor would be.

One crucial thing to understand - Apple does not design a unit and then come up with what they think they can price it at. They come up with a target price, and then build in the features that they think will justify the price. The reason HDR certification is not part of the build is simply that it would not provide any additional price justification. On the contrary, it would provide another "measurement" by which competing monitors could be compared. Apple is in the business of minimizing points of comparison, not maximizing them.
 
While this is all technically true, its also missing the point. Every monitor achieves "retina" simply by being far enough away average human eyesight can't perceive individual pixels.

We use Retina to indicate the monitor achieves a high level of sharpness at normal distances.
Who's sitting closer than 20" though? I just measured 23" between my eyes and my 27" display.
 
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Good for Steve. That doesn't change the fact that it is nothing more than a marketing term. There's no "Retina Display Consortium" comprised of independent reviewers or engineers who have collectively determined an industry standard measurement for declaring a display as "Retina". There's just a guy and a marketing department that came up with a pseudo-scientific sounding term so they could justify a higher price for a phone (and later, a monitor).

Watching you guys talk about non-Apple displays not "being Retina" is like watching car enthusiasts complain that a Dodge Ram doesn't have fahrvergnügen. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so very sad.
I was never saying that that this monitor was Retina or not, just that the OP was complaining that it wasn't high enough resolution, so I said to move the monitor farther away(It was supposed to be humorous).
Retina is an Apple trademark, so there will never be a non-Apple monitor with a Retina display. But what defines "Retina" is important as a measurement, if your going to buy a monitor. Just as buying a Dodge can have driving enjoyment, without being marketed as fahrvergnügen.
 
quick summary on how macOS scaling works, let alone the term "retina" for now

native monitor resolution= OK!
native monitor resolution 2x (200%) = OK!
everything in between = bad

want a sharp 1440p monitor? you need a 5120x2880 native scaled 2X (2880/2=1440!)
want a sharp 1080p monitor? you need a 3840x2160 native scaled 2X (2160/2=1080!)
 
I got the 32“ version of that monitor last week and love it. Looks really nice with the thin bezels and no logo (apart from the stand, but I got a monitor arm anyway, so that‘s gone).

I kind of considered the Studio Display at one point, but with frequent switching between my MacBook and Windows desktop PC this is the perfect monitor for me currently.

I am looking at the same monitor. I only do basic office, email, financial stuff, etc. How is the text on the screen?
 
Another comparison to a non-retina, low-PPI display. 4K 27" is really not that sharp - it's only as sharp as the original non-retina iPhone (around 160 PPI)

This absurdity has to stop.
Haha...dude...."4K 27" is really not that sharp"....HAHAHA Your absurdity and fanboyness needs to stop.

How far do you sit from the 27" monitor...like 3 inches? At normal viewing distances at a work desk, 27" 4K definitely is retina.
 
For me, the thing with "Retina" is that once you're used to it, it's hard to go back. Being perfectly content with a "lowly" 4K, I am staying away 5+K monitors for the time being.

I did that when I stayed with my older iPhone and iPad when "Retina" came out. I could still use my work devices without barfing...
"retina" is a sliding scale...it depends on how far away you sit from the monitor. A 27" 4K monitor is "retina" at 21 inches or more viewing distance. I'd think that the average person sitting at a desk views their monitor at 21 inches or more. So the whole "retina" argument is bunk. The entire term "retina" just means that at the distance you view from, you cannot see the pixels. I have two workstations, one has two 32" samsung 4K monitors and one has a dell ultrasharp 27" P series 4K monitor. I cannot see pixels in any of the monitors when seated and working normally.
 
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How far do you sit from the 27" monitor...like 3 inches? At normal viewing distances at a work desk, 27" 4K definitely is retina.
Billy sits as far from his display as Tim Apple tells him to. Billy is a good, unquestioning Apple customer. You are an infidel and are unworthy of making any comparisons to Apple's brilliant and completely unmatched works of engineering art.
 
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