On the price side, its a losing argument for mac fanboys, they are just desperately trying to make up some ground there, which is just a fallacy.
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Apple's US Market Share Slips in 1Q 2009
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Maybe make themselves feel better...
Consider it poo-pooed again. Nobody wants a desktop computer. People buy laptops and among those, netbooks are very popular.
If Apple releases a Netbook tomorrow, all those that now say it is a mistake because they shouldn't target that market are gonna be running to have the latest Mac toy. Because Apple says so.
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Sure, and that is why the two biggest manufactures, Dell and HP, offer about a dozen distint lines of desktop (mini tower) computers because nobody wants them.
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Then why Apple sells iMac (or Mac Mini) to consumers if nobody wants a desktop computer? It's true that laptops and netbooks are nowadays more popular than desktops, but there are still lots of people who are buying desktop computers.
Although Apple's "I'm a Mac" advertising looks like Apple is after a larger marketshare, I think they are not. During past few years they could have easily reached a larger marketshare with right moves, but they haven't done that. As long as they are making money with their current strategy they don't need to change it. Apple has excluded lots of possible switchers/buyers with their current lineup and prices, but they are making profit. In my opinion Apple is stubborn and too stuck to its principles, but as long as customers are buying their products and Apple is making profit, I doubt that they will change.
Developers, developers, developers!!!
Apple is not immune to the forces of the marketplace. They will continue to do as they're doing until such time as the market forces them to do otherwise. Knowing Apple, they'll fight it tooth and nail; nevertheless, they will have to change and adapt, or they will perish.
Thank you both. I couldn't agree more.
The problem here is an essential conflict. I believe both of these comments to be accurate and true. I also cannot reconcile one with the other. And I'm certain that if I am having that problem, others out there must be having that same problem, too.
Apple still gets that much money per iPhone? Really? Wow, i didn't realize that. But here's my question: Doesn't this inherently make the iPhone a less high-end product? Maybe it's counter-intuitive, but it seems like logic would dictate -- assuming we were being consistent here -- that if it's more "common" then the exclusivity rule wouldn't apply, and therefore it wouldn't be as popular. Somewhere, one way or another, some group of people's assumptions are busy being invalidated here.
If Apple wanted more marketshare, they essentially sell their computers at a loss, that would get them more marketshare but would also put them out of business. What they are doing right is now perfect, get as much profit as possible instead of chasing marketshare. Look how many phones Nokia sold but could only muster up that meagre profit, I bet Apple makes more profit off the iphones even though they will sell less phones than Nokia.
guess those laptop hunter commercials are working!
i don't think Apple's going to have to worry. i know many, many people who after buying their first iPhone - or their first iPod thought:
"wow if this is how they do an MP3 player/Phone - i can't imagine how easy their actual computers are".
if the new iPhone comes out i bet their market share - even on computers, will increase
i don't think Apple's going to have to worry. i know many, many people who after buying their first iPhone - or their first iPod thought:
"wow if this is how they do an MP3 player/Phone - i can't imagine how easy their actual computers are".
if the new iPhone comes out i bet their market share - even on computers, will increase
I'll let Apple know that they don't have to worry because you know a few people who buy their iPhone and wonder what their computers are like. Screw statistics like market share, amiright?! Anecdotal evidence FTW
I don't mean "nobody" like in "absolutely nobody". I mean that people are actually moving towards the small/portable world. Of course there are desktop sales, but they are shrinking compared to netbook/laptop sales. For Apple to release a new desktop now and not a netbook would be a stupid move. 5 years ago, the story was probably different, but now...
These other guys offer that because they don't have to do extensive research to put together these machines: they basically assemble parts that work. Apple's special design needs normally need a lot of research and testing of different components and it is not trivial to release a new model of computer to them, with an innovative design, etc. That's another reason to not consider that idea.
I didn't mean for that to come across as a personal attack. If you took it that way, I sincerely apologize.
How does a company with 95% market share make a comeback? Do you think Bill Gates didn't have any failures at all?
Yes, but my point is that those configurations are NOT NEEDED. Having to use Xeon CPUs for example. You don't need them for most desktop uses. Put a SLI GPU in there (assuming it worked in OS X which it does not) and you'd have a gaming platform that blows away a Mac Pro. It all depends on what you need to do, but Apple does not offer ANY REASONBLE consumer desktop machines. All their so-called "desktops" are actually laptops packed into a monitor and that's just not going to cut it!
Exactly! I don't care how you present it. If people want to say ovepriced or a simple lack of usable desktop options, whatever. But the fact is that a consumer can get MUCH better hardware for their buck for $800-1200 with a PC than a $2400 Mac Pro (unless you need a professional workstation and even then there are shortcomings these days).
Well that's where Psystar comes into the picture and instead of supporting them (if nothing else they might force Apple to offer better options), the fanatics want to destroy them. Why? Apple NEEDS competition to keep them in line. They are far too greedy to do the right thing on their own, IMO.
I guess some people want everybody to be using Windows, what a happy world that would be, with no other alternatives but Windows.
Microsoft's "comeback" will be to neutralize the iGadget "halo effect" and unfairly tarnished reputation of Vista - thanks to a brilliant, sustained advertising campaign and a groundbreakingly improved Windows 7.
Your opinion my vary...
Oh heck ya! I'd buy it (maybe two) in a HEARTBEAT.
But, I still think it would be a mistake for Apple to do and not in their long term best interests.
Just like I would show up at Steve Jobs house if he was handing out bags of free money, but I wouldn't think it would be good for his long term financial plan.
The XMB comes straight from Sony with an entry under System Settings labeled "Install Other OS". And another entry to set your "Default OS" when you power on. And a third action to repartition the HD for dual-boot, or you can choose to completely remove the PS3 OS.
Wait, how was Vista's repuration "unfairly" tarnished ? As I remember it, Vista didn't need any help in tarnishing its reputation.
They slip a percent in the worst recession since Wall Street and already you want them to roll out netbooks?
Apple has already said they will not release a netbook. Acer may have sold a load, but what you fail to realise is they make £10 profit margin per unit. They have to sell 30 to make the profit Apple makes on one iMac.
Apple has already said they will not release a netbook. Acer may have sold a load, but what you fail to realise is they make £10 profit margin per unit. They have to sell 30 to make the profit Apple makes on one iMac.
Windows XP is the new "Windows Mobile". PCs can run Vista. Netbooks can only run XP. In fact, you can't even purchase a PC with a license for that operating system (XP) anymore (If you downgrade, you still bought a Vista license).
But the Mojave experiment scientifically proved that it was unfair...with SCIENCE!
Yes, science proves that loading a desktop with about the fastest parts and showing off Vista on it will result in the same exact experience people get with a 300$ desktop that's only "Vista Capable".
Mojave really was an eye opener...