Apple's Website Suggests M2 and M2 Pro Mac Announcements Were Originally Set for Fall 2022

[garylapointe]

Ugh! So my new 2023 MBP 16" is really a 2022 MPB?!?

 

[Bcn]

The problem now is everything is integrated on the same chip now. So I'm guessing the pricing is completely out of whack with how they used to do it when they could order memory independently. Now everything is subject to the build process of the whole SOC and all the yield issues you can get (I believe only a percentage of silicon a chip maker creates works properly or something...).

So they just charge a premium for it now. I suppose if 90% of buyers only buy the base config then its a lot more expensive to produce the 10% SOC than it would be if they could just add ram separately. Add the apple tax and your at 420 etc..

Apparently the speed of the memory is meant to negate the need of additional memory. However, in my use on an 8gb MacBook Pro M1 I think that's a lot of bs. I fell for it sadly. You probably need minimum 16gb ram to really use the computer without any issues unless your literally only running a few things at a time.

I actually find my 24gb iMac i5 2017 acts more responsively than my MacBook Pro M1 8gb just because of the extra ram. I always get "free up system memory" dialog boxes. Its annoying. Wish I'd just got the 16gb model.

Thanks for a good reply! I am looking into my relative fine and fast 2014 Macbook pro. Because I learned from earlier lesson with only 4GB, I got it with 16GB and it has never had any memory issues for almost 9 years now. Now I consider 16 or 32GB memory. I like that it can be used for 8-10 years or even more. I am not a heavy user. Though on the new Macbook pro €420 for that upgrade is a lot. Maybe I will get the 2021 model or wait for a refurbished.

 

[Razorpit]

Likely planned for an April event.

You talking URL or actual release? 😉

China is becoming increasingly risky and unreliable, but moving all production elsewhere is basically not feasible now.
Two hard pills to swallow, but some people only focus on the first one.

For all the talk Apple does about “diversity,“ they don’t do it in the one area it is needed the most.

 

[Mr_Risin_Mojo]

So.. these are basically last year's (2022) MacBook Pro models? That is why we didn't see an iconic Midnight M2 MacBook Pro. Yeah, I'm still mad about that. Lost one day of sleep over it for nothing. Feeling salty... 😒

👀 My eyes on MacBook Air 15" (Midnight Edition).

I don't think that's the reason
Btw I have a question for you, you talk about this Topic all day and all of the midnight so... Do you own a M2 Air in that colour? Because I'm getting crazy by just looking at it in the shop... I know the cloth is an old friend of yours 😁 but I don't think that so many people would choose that fingerprint-magnet for their Pro-machines!
Don't get me wrong I really like that colour(untouched) and the 15" Air will be beautiful but I actually need a laptop for more than looking at it and not to send my to the Asylum after working on it for some hours

 

[threesixty360]

Thanks for a good reply! I am looking into my relative fine and fast 2014 Macbook pro. Because I learned from earlier lesson with only 4GB, I got it with 16GB and it has never had any memory issues for almost 9 years now. Now I consider 16 or 32GB memory. I like that it can be used for 8-10 years or even more. I am not a heavy user. Though on the new Macbook pro €420 for that upgrade is a lot. Maybe I will get the 2021 model or wait for a refurbished.

It’s weird but nowadays I feel like ram is the most important part of the configuration now. With everyone using up tons of browser windows and people rendering videos etc. ram is what’s needed.

Then HD space for the swap file, and finally processor speed. Probably makes more sense to get last years model with the ram/HD you can afford and forget the 20% cpu speed bump. Won’t really be that noticeable.

 

[Tagbert]

If they don't have 3nm chips, then why were they delayed?

Covid related production issues in the factories assembling the MacBook Pros

 

[Tagbert]

True but I need a portable device, the m2 chip can support 2 displays, with the m2 Mac mini you can hook up 2 external displays.
With the m2 air you can have an external display and an internal display.

In that case you might need a DisplayLink adaptor to connect two monitors to one video stream. Depends on your connections and display resolutions.

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[brandoman]

They didn't ship on time... is this why Tim took a giant pay cut?

 

[msackey]

[...]
Will we ever see an Apple with a "perfect" business in terms of its hardware output rate where it is just rolling out product after product with no hiccups? It will be fascinating to see. Maybe not during Tim's tenure as CEO.

Why look for "perfect"? Hiccups is part of life and part of running a business.

 

[MacWiz_007]

Who cares? So it was announced earlier than expected, I don't think many people are going to complain about that.

 

[svish]

Manufacturing delays might have caused the launch to be pushed to 2023.

 

[_Spinn_]

Not too surprising considering everything that has been going on with the supply chain in China.

 

[JoshNori]

My guess is the M2 Airs which a lot us feel are pointless upgrades were not selling well and they did not want another product out there to possibly canabilize it's sales.
Plus with all the discounts, it's possible there was still plenty of 14 and 16 Macs in stock that they wanted to get rid of before offering newer versions.

The M2 Air I believe sold like hotcakes, but I agree with your inkling about the 14/16 inventory and the delay.

 

[rp2011]

The M2 Air I believe sold like hotcakes, but I agree with your inkling about the 14/16 inventory and the delay.

I would like to see the data that the M2 Airs sold like "hotcakes" Apple themselves said year to date Mac sales for the quarter would be significantly lower shortly after its release. And a recent report posited that the 14 and 16" MacBook Pros are selling better than the Airs with the MacBook Pro accounting for 54% of Mac sales and the MacBook Air at 46%.
And the new Airs are getting attention for being huge disappointments in value/performance compared to the 14" pros and M1 Airs.

 

[sam_dean]

A cost or supply chain issue.

There may have not been enough M2 parts/chips to fulfill Macbook Air and Macbook Pro 13" demand.

As they now have excess capacity they can now offer it in the lower volume Mac mini.

This may also be the reason why a M1 Pro was not offered in the Mac mini because there was too much demand for it in the Macbook Pro 14"/16"

 

[JoshNori]

I would like to see the data that the M2 Airs sold like "hotcakes" Apple themselves said year to date Mac sales for the quarter would be significantly lower shortly after its release. And a recent report posited that the 14 and 16" MacBook Pros are selling better than the Airs with the MacBook Pro accounting for 54% of Mac sales and the MacBook Air at 46%.
And the new Airs are getting attention for being huge disappointments in value/performance compared to the 14" pros and M1 Airs.

OK well ask them. That’s why I said “I believe”. No one knows. So take your argument elsewhere.

 

[sam_dean]

Something everyone should remember. Within the last half year the China manufacturing plants for the Mac and other Window PCs had shipping issues from the Chinese govt's hard COVID lockdown that impacted their ability to send you the latest Macs during the holiday season.