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Unless it supports 4K and better audio formats such as DTS, it really is just another set top box, that costs more and does less than the competition.
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Nothing 1080p will be old and useless for a decade.

I believe the reason we don't have an Apple TV that does 4K is because iTunes doesn't have 4K content yet. I suspect we will see it this fall, and with that a second Apple TV that will do 4K. I'd guess they will have two apple tvs at that point, the current one and the 4K one at a higher cost.

They are moving so many things to 4K but till iTunes hits it, I don't think they see a point in making the apple TV do it.

And frankly, after using smart tvs, Rokus, and a few other options, Apple TV is just better. And until you use Siri to get to a program you don't know how much you will like it. It's just better.

And pictures off iCloud look fantastic on a 4K tv from an Apple TV. Absolutely fantastic.

Doesn't Netflix offer 4K content?
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Yeah, but all that is available, and has been for quite, save iTunes.

And there is a lot of 4k content; most Netflix original programming (of which there is quite a lot) and Amazon and now even Hulu. If you are watching current series there, all the new stuff is 4k. Not to mention our own family videos, and of course photos. It actually surprised me how much stuff there is. The fact Apple is so far behind doesn't inspire me. Again, no one has cited a reason to get her an ATV when several other devices are better, or even just her TV.

You hit it on the head. If you are contemplating a 4K set top box, then I assume she has or will purchase a 4K tv. If that is the case, then the 4K tv most likely has all the streaming services she needs built in.

I use the Appletv mostly for the Plex app connected to my NAS, that houses all my media.
 
FWIW, their "ProMotion" technology they talked about in the new iPad Pro... they made a point of how it can do 120fps to make games and scrolling smooth, and can drop down to 60fps or 48fps on the fly to save power. Word is, it can also do 24fps. If they used that same tech on the ATV5, 24fps display could be possible.

That's a display though rather than a streaming box. TVs can already output at all necessary refresh rates. It's just that the Apple TV doesn't allow films to play at their native framerate. Other streaming boxes such as the shield tv manage this. Unfortunately Apple seem to focus all their energies on making a cool interface.
 
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You hit it on the head. If you are contemplating a 4K set top box, then I assume she has or will purchase a 4K tv. If that is the case, then the 4K tv most likely has all the streaming services she needs built in.

You can't count on TV manufacturers to continually update the OS for their TV. There's no money in it for them to put efforts in supporting older hardware. And this makes it even harder for software developers to update apps for a bunch of different devices.

Tons of stories on the internet about smart TVs and apps. Best to shop for a TV to use as a display, rather than a streaming device.

"In light of smart TVs losing access to apps, buying an expensive TV full to the brim with software may not be the best way to go."

Read more: http://www.which.co.uk/news/2017/06/samsung-tvs-set-to-lose-the-youtube-app/ - Which?
http://www.which.co.uk/news/2017/06/samsung-tvs-set-to-lose-the-youtube-app/
 
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The WWDC Keynote moved along pretty quickly, on the Apple TV they chose only to say, "it'll be getting Amazon Prime Video this year", but he did say, just before moving on to the next thing, something like, "you'll be hearing more about Apple TV later this year". These things are planned down to the second, that's not idle space filling. That would generally mean they'll have something significant to show about Apple TV at the presentation(s) in September/October. That's no guarantee, but they generally don't say such things without intent to back them up. The only question is, is the announcement only going to be new content deals, or also new hardware? If there is new hardware, 4K is a really obvious upgrade for the Apple TV (as in, it's hard to imagine them making an ATV5 without 4K). The ATV4 is approaching two years old, it would be a logical time for an upgrade.

They need to buy out the channels app company and integrate the tuner into the TV app or come up with one on their own that has DVR functionality to cover locals. As for longevity, they are in a far better position now that it will have Amazon Prime and Vudu to play UV titles. Those were some pretty big gaps in people buying ATV as it put everyone into the position of needing multiple devices to reach the two key cloud movie services of iTunes and UV plus the Prime environment.
 
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