Someone mentioned that the X could be a typo because it's happened before, but all those books were published in like 2000. Nobody writes a book about a program more than a year after its release, and even that would be extremely late. Because this book was copywrited only three months ago and it has not yet been released, I'd say there is significant reason to believe that something is afoot.
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azdude said:Baseless speculation:
My money's on Appleworks X at Expo Paris alongside the iMac G5.
Actually, during the quarterly financial report, is was confirmed that the new iMac is based on a G5.
macridah said:
microsoft didn't drop ie because of safari.
anyhew, this would be awesome, as i've been toying around quite a bit with AW for the past few weeks... it's not a bad program, but it just really needs a kick in the pants to bring it up to speed. it hasn't changed too much from the version i used on a performa 450... at the time, clarisworks.
Appleworks X
Sheesh people. I can't believe the "Appleworks X" is going over your head. Let me explain how it works.
Apple has a new product coming. They want to have 3rd party book for this product out so they contract out to a few writers. They are %100 sure about the name but if it's a previous version and not a totally new product they simply append an "X" onto the product. "X" has always signified "unkown" in some areas just as Malcom X kept the "X" until he "found" his true name.
What this "Appleworks X" means is that there IS a new version coming. Apple hasn't chosen a final version number. It could be Appleworks 6.5 or Appleworks 7 or Appleworks CS or whatever they want. The publishers will get the final name before mass production. Trust me Appleworks X is not going to be the final name.
How do I know this? Because I've been following book like this for a while and 6 months before Filemaker 7 shipped there were a couple "Filemaker X" books pending print. This is great news because we're getting something new in AW. It just depends on how large the update is.
So in short yes a new Appleworks is coming.
Sheesh people. I can't believe the "Appleworks X" is going over your head. Let me explain how it works.
Apple has a new product coming. They want to have 3rd party book for this product out so they contract out to a few writers. They are %100 sure about the name but if it's a previous version and not a totally new product they simply append an "X" onto the product. "X" has always signified "unkown" in some areas just as Malcom X kept the "X" until he "found" his true name.
What this "Appleworks X" means is that there IS a new version coming. Apple hasn't chosen a final version number. It could be Appleworks 6.5 or Appleworks 7 or Appleworks CS or whatever they want. The publishers will get the final name before mass production. Trust me Appleworks X is not going to be the final name.
How do I know this? Because I've been following book like this for a while and 6 months before Filemaker 7 shipped there were a couple "Filemaker X" books pending print. This is great news because we're getting something new in AW. It just depends on how large the update is.
So in short yes a new Appleworks is coming.
Mudbug said:
Following your link brings up a page with a link to compare prices. Amazon UK estimates shipping in 4-6 weeks. Good timing if AWX is to be introduced in Paris. All the other retailers are out of stock, though the Pearson site estimates the book's release on 3/15/2005.
Ahhh Office Apps
This would would really bring the apple line up to the fore front of technology. Since alot of people spend alot of time infront of a word processor it seems logical that apple could make that experience so much better and in the process increase market share. I wonder what sort of innovations Apple could come up with in an office suite. They already have a great presentation tool in keynote. All of the development apps both programming and content development (FC/iMovie/Garageband) all outstanding. Hmmm maybe they could include rendezvous into the office app, similiar to the app formerly called hydra, the new name excapes me. But that could be nice. I don't know what else would make AW more superior.
This would would really bring the apple line up to the fore front of technology. Since alot of people spend alot of time infront of a word processor it seems logical that apple could make that experience so much better and in the process increase market share. I wonder what sort of innovations Apple could come up with in an office suite. They already have a great presentation tool in keynote. All of the development apps both programming and content development (FC/iMovie/Garageband) all outstanding. Hmmm maybe they could include rendezvous into the office app, similiar to the app formerly called hydra, the new name excapes me. But that could be nice. I don't know what else would make AW more superior.
Me too, whatever AW X ends up with as an actual version number. AW 6 is getting a bit long in the tooth for inclusion with the brand-new G5 iMac, which is sure to be a major hardware announcement. Heck, AW 6 is long in the tooth to be shipping with the current iBook G4's.azdude said:Baseless speculation:
My money's on Appleworks X at Expo Paris alongside the iMac G5.
Further baseless speculation: The new Appleworks will require Panther or better, further angering those still running earlier versions of OS X and really pissing off the people still on OS 9.
Free?
Do you think the update will be FREE? Or do you think I'll be a complete overhaul, and like have to pay approx. £80-£100?
I got AppleWorks free with my computer. Having used Office X, it does look very much outdated and pretty basic. If they do bring a new version out, I hope it has something similar to Microsoft's project centre, it sounds really cool!
Hope this rumor is true!
Do you think the update will be FREE? Or do you think I'll be a complete overhaul, and like have to pay approx. £80-£100?
I got AppleWorks free with my computer. Having used Office X, it does look very much outdated and pretty basic. If they do bring a new version out, I hope it has something similar to Microsoft's project centre, it sounds really cool!
Hope this rumor is true!
Another explanation...
I don't wanna be a spoilsport, but I think the new book will simply show AppleWorks in the OSX environment (hence AppleWorks X, just as they use to do at places like Versiontracker). Just a publisher trying to revamp an outdated book, that's lost its appeal because everybody is seeing another GUI now.
nuckinfutz said:
I don't wanna be a spoilsport, but I think the new book will simply show AppleWorks in the OSX environment (hence AppleWorks X, just as they use to do at places like Versiontracker). Just a publisher trying to revamp an outdated book, that's lost its appeal because everybody is seeing another GUI now.
macridah said:
Better doesn't mean sucessful.
That was planned long before that, that is one reason why Safari was created. MS has killed IE for all platforms. As it satnds now, IE is separate from the OS, from here on out, it will be part of the OS and thus, no more freestanding IE. They even offered versions for Solaris and HP-UX in the past.
While I desparately hope apple comes out with a new (from the ground-up) office-type suite, I hope they can the moniker "AppleWorks." A lot of people i know would stay away from it simply due to the name AppleWorks carrying a negative connotation with it. Apple should give it a new name to separate it (and hopefully make it a true office-killer).
latergator116 said:
Nope, AppleWorks doesn't get updated, even though Internet Explorer does. I don't quite understand Apple's policy about non-OS software updates, unless it's that Explorer, like iTunes et al, is included with ALL Macs out of the box. Plus it's a chronic security hazard.
The update is worthwhile, by the way, because it finally provides support for a scrollwheel mouse (though not in the database
).
mkaake said:
hey dude are you quoteing me in your sig? i can't remember if i said that, i think i did if it was can you add my name to it i want full acknolagement.
ethics smethincs theres something called commen sense not to abide by some code blindly but to do what you think is best to benefit you and not at the cost of others.
edit: yes it was me that said that and i want credit god damn it
Let's face it, Steve Jobs bent over and took it like a Mac when he conceded the Office software category to Microsoft and Bill Gates.
It's one of the reasons Apple is still around. The white-flag has gone up. Give it up.
It's one of the reasons Apple is still around. The white-flag has gone up. Give it up.
Freg3000 said:
Exactly what I was thinking. This isn't a rumour. A publishing company is actually publishing this book. I doubt that someone who would go through the trouble of writing a book about Mac software would get the simple title wrong.
And no, AppleWorks X wouldn't be great alongside iLife. I'd like it to be, but it's not an iLife style app, mostly because it's not a lifestyle product. Its a useful product, but iLife is concerned with the digital lifestyle, and AppleWorks X wouldn't fit into it. iLife takes care of listening and making music, photos, DV, and burning all or some of these things on CD or DVD. They're also well integrated. This is probably why Keynote isn't a part of iLife. This is why APX won't be a part of iLife. I can't image listening and making music, movies, photos, DV, DVD burning, and spreadsheets to be a good blend.
I never said I liked Office. In fact, it's one clunker of a piece of software.
I wish to God Apple could make something to usurp it.
But that would infuriate Microshaft. Like it or not, sometimes you have to deal with the devil.
I wish to God Apple could make something to usurp it.
But that would infuriate Microshaft. Like it or not, sometimes you have to deal with the devil.
Apple doesn't need to make a better Office, they need to make a cheaper Office, one that they can sell to education markets again. I think we'll soon see the quiet introduction of AppleWorks 7, Cocoa on Mac OS X, C++/Carbon for Windows and OS 9. The reason for the length between major updates being due to the necessity of rewriting the entire app, then porting it not only to two different platforms, but also to a different language and two APIs (assuming they make it a standard Win32 app like its predecessors).
JesseJames said:
Your thesis is fallacious. Word has been available for Mac since damn near its inception. Appleworks nee Clarisworks the same. It's obvious the two are aimed at two different markets. I don't think Apple has conceded anything to MS. Appleworks in its current form is not meant to be an Office competitor, perhaps AW7 changes this but that remains to be seen.
Talking about AppleWorks vs. MS Office is like talking about iPhoto vs. Photoshop. Different niches, different audience, different expectations and prices.
If AppleWorks X is on the horizon, I think Apple should include Keynote as part of the suite. And maybe the database component should become FileMaker Lite. I've never used the communications component. Is it still worth having?
If AppleWorks X is on the horizon, I think Apple should include Keynote as part of the suite. And maybe the database component should become FileMaker Lite. I've never used the communications component. Is it still worth having?
I'd love to get the new AW if it is indeed full office suite. I hate Word, as formatting in it made be one of the worst things you could ask someone to do. But Excel is a good application, and apple needs to be careful with compatability. One of the huge reasons I don't use OpenOffice is that excel spreadsheets don't have great compatability.
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As long as it's not useless obstructing feature overkill like Office, I'll be happy to buy and use it.
I'm a bit late to this thread, but...anyway, back on topic:
I'm looking forward to an AppleWorks update. I like AppleWorks, but I agree with the other posters that say AppleWorks is dated. I currently don't use it, but I'd be willing to use an updated AppleWorks.
I'm looking forward to an AppleWorks update. I like AppleWorks, but I agree with the other posters that say AppleWorks is dated. I currently don't use it, but I'd be willing to use an updated AppleWorks.
FearFactor47 said:
It's supposed to be basic. It's supposed to be competing against MS works, not MS office. AppleWorks X should be around $50 and Apple Office (I hope there is one) should around $150.