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That's because of the stupid ambiguous language Apple chose: Ask App Not to Track? Seriously, Apple?

When you "ask" something, it gives the other person a chance to deny your ask. But when your "order" or "demand" something, there's no either or.

Apple, change the language to ALLOW and DENY and tweak permissions accordingly.
And if they don't comply we should:
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That is terrible. Hopefully Apple fixes the problem and starts banning some Apps. Start by banning FB please.
you are looking at it wrong, thinking of banning this or that app....trying to empty the sea with a spoon.

Targeted advertisement IN GENERAL, doesn't bring any value to society, it has to be killed and it's quite possible at system/OS level.
 
That's because of the stupid ambiguous language Apple chose: Ask App Not to Track? Seriously, Apple?

When you "ask" something, it gives the other person a chance to deny your ask. But when your "order" or "demand" something, there's no either or.

Apple, change the language to ALLOW and DENY and tweak permissions accordingly.
Because Apple cannot make dev community feel disrespected. Even like this, the companies are already very pissed by Apple ready.
 
If an app is not adhering to the rules, uninstall it!

You have full control over the privacy settings on a per-app basis in the Settings app.
I do have global setting to not even ask. I know I can delete the app, but that is not the point.
 
Apple should start handing out permanent App Store blacklists for each company found in violation. Something makes me think that other companies will clean up their act really quickly and not institute such workarounds. Make it a gut punch to the stomach and companies will cave.
 
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Apple should throw down the hammer and tell every developer that if they try to sneak around this, their app will be permanently removed from the app store. End of story.
The problem is proving a developer acquired the information from their app and not some other app or website like google maps or search that is more than happy to sell your data. I avoid Google as much as possible, but recently did an assignment for a marketing class that showed me how to see what Google knows about me and they were able to track me quite a bit. It was pretty disturbing.
 
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Well, I suppose we do occasionally forget that ethics is not present within every single individual......
 
So we're blaming Apple for app developers deliberately trying to bypass the new rules and permission screens, by finding alternative methods?! Give me a break - With that straw man argument you can blame every single person for every other persons actions.
Yep, that's the narrative of some in here. Unfortunate. Straw man it is. Intelligent and well spoken they are not!

It never ceases to amaze me how anti-Apple filth will go out of their way to go to an Apple-centric forum and doth protest too much and spew platitudes about how bad Apple supposedly is. They need to just go to Lagdroid/Winblows forums and be with their kind and have a group climax over all the bad things that happen to Apple or mistakes made.

But yes, they are blaming Apple for something that isn't their fault. It will be if they choose not to act on this, but its new news and they aren't even giving them a chance. Some people want to see the world burn. The rest of us will give Apple their due props for always putting customer's privacy and security first and realize that even the best have flaws!
 
Can't or won't ? If you are the OS provider (which Apple is) you can do anything, including sandboxing any app.
Can't - The way the Internet work makes it impossible to hide the IP from the services you connect to. If you don't know the details, then refrain from making it sound like it's just a matter of wanting to.
 
Can't - The way the Internet work makes it impossible to hide the IP from the services you connect to. If you don't know the details, then refrain from making it sound like it's just a matter of wanting to.
How about Apple acting as a VPN/portal? No data at all going directly from you to the app vendor - or the other way.

I don't see it as an impossibility to come up with a technique something like this - but do accept it isn't obviously available right now to all users.
 
Can't - The way the Internet work makes it impossible to hide the IP from the services you connect to. If you don't know the details, then refrain from making it sound like it's just a matter of wanting to.

The device's IP address can be hidden by connecting to the service through a VPN.
 
Apple should throw down the hammer and tell every developer that if they try to sneak around this, their app will be permanently removed from the app store. End of story.
But is this the developers acting in bad faith or just using an ad sdk and the ad networks are the bad guys?
That makes a huge difference. Certainly Apple can (and should) ban any app that uses code from the ad companies that are abusing this. If the developers themselves are complicit, then I am totally down with a lifetime ban.
 
How about Apple acting as a VPN/portal? No data at all going directly from you to the app vendor - or the other way.

I don't see it as an impossibility to come up with a technique something like this - but do accept it isn't obviously available right now to all users.

Third-party VPN services are available already and offer some protection. An integrated VPN solution by Apple would be interesting.
 
Apple's whole privacy stance has always been nonsense.

If Apple really cared about privacy, they'd stop accepting money from Google and switch the default search engine in Safari to DuckDuckGo.

(I think Brave might use DDG by default... are there any other browsers that do that?)

Apple's insistence on charging devs $99/year and taking a 30% cut is why tracking is so pervasive now. There's a ton of free software on Windows, macOS, and Linux with absolutely no strings or tracking attached. Because those apps can be developed and distributed for free.

Since Apple demands to be paid despite the fact that they bring nothing to the table, developers have to find an easy way to get the money. They turn to this tracking that Apple pretends to despise so much. (If Apple really has an issue with it, Apple's issue is that developers are opting to use a third party ad network instead of charging users directly for the app, where Apple would be able to take a 30% cut, vs advertising where Apple doesn't get a cut beyond the $99/year dev fees they charge, which disproportionately are shouldered by smaller devs.)
There’s so much wrong with this post I don’t even know where to start. I think every other sentence is factually incorrect.

I will say this, do a little bit of research in merchant accounts and marketing. And any iOS developer that is overly burdened by a $99 yearly fee is probably in the wrong career.

apples onerous developer fees and highway robbery on the subscription revenue has made a lot of app developers very wealthy.
 
How about Apple acting as a VPN/portal? No data at all going directly from you to the app vendor - or the other way.

I don't see it as an impossibility to come up with a technique something like this - but do accept it isn't obviously available right now to all users.
Do you have any of the amount of data and bandwidth this would require. That would mean Apple would have more internet bandwidth available than the 100 biggest ISP's in the world if that could even cover it. While it technically would work, it's impossible in reality.
 
Can't - The way the Internet work makes it impossible to hide the IP from the services you connect to. If you don't know the details, then refrain from making it sound like it's just a matter of wanting to.
what's preventing Apple from piping data from an app to it's server, assign it another ip address and forward the connection ?
 
The device's IP address can be hidden by connecting to the service through a VPN.
Yes, but that doesn't really hide the IP. You just replace it with a different one. But yes, as a consumer you are free to purchase a VPN subscription if you want to. I personally use a couple of VPN services, but don't expect Apple to do this for every single piece of data flowing through their apps. The bandwidth requirements would be beyond comprehension.
 
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Yes, but that doesn't really hide the IP. You just replace it with a different one.

Protecting the device's IP is the important part since that's usually more static. The idea is that the IP exposed by the VPN can be assigned to a given device only short-term, or even be different on a per-App basis.
 
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