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I'm under the impression it will not be that Tuesday but the week after. After Tiger makes sense, thus the computers can all have Tiger Pre-installed on them.

Wait a week Apple, update then.
 
Yvan256 said:
Yes, of course. This is a Mac mini, not a PowerMac. But it'll still work, just (a lot) slower. In fact I wouldn't even expect real-time performance with a single light filter for CoreVideo.

...Who'd buy a Mac mini for real-time video editing anyway?!

Video is real time. If it can't do it at the required speed, it just doesn't work, period.

Forget about Mini. I have a Cube with no shaders, and the possibility of upgrading to dual 1.6GHz.

To get shaders I would have to do one of: 1) Do a hardware hack to move the VRM. 2) Move everything into a bigger PowerCube enclosure 3) Flash a PC 5200 and lose DVI. None of those solutions is ideal. Maybe if someone fixes the DVI problem with the 5200, I'll get a preflashed one off ebay, but I hear even this card has trouble keeping up with Core Image.
 
cube said:
Video is real time. If it can't do it at the required speed, it just doesn't work, period.

Forget about Mini. I have a Cube with no shaders, and the possibility of upgrading to dual 1.6GHz.

To get shaders I would have to do one of: 1) Do a hardware hack to move the VRM. 2) Move everything into a bigger PowerCube enclosure 3) Flash a PC 5200 and lose DVI. None of those solutions is ideal. Maybe if someone fixes the DVI problem with the 5200, I'll get a preflashed one off ebay, but I hear even this card has trouble keeping up with Core Image.

Real-time video editing is the keyword here. Of course video by itself is "real-time", but we're talking QuickTime playback in this case.
 
Yvan256 said:
Real-time video editing is the keyword here. Of course video by itself is "real-time", but we're talking QuickTime playback in this case.

Well, I am talking about previewing effects interactively; not having to render a bit, then watch. As well as applying real-time effects to a video stream.
 
64-meg iBooks? Possible price drop?

Good. I'm in the market come the new academic year in July.
 
cube said:
Well, I am talking about previewing effects interactively; not having to render a bit, then watch. As well as applying real-time effects to a video stream.
Well, then you're talking video editing, right?

No one in their right mind would expect a $499 computer to do pro or semi-pro video editing.
 
Whatever ...

NO NEW minis!

They are Apple's second newest CPU (if you count the updated PowerBooks released after MacWorld) and they do not require an update of any kind. They can not boost the standard RAM until ALL other CPUs have 512MB or higher as well, that includes iBooks and eMacs along with the iMacs.

The Mac mini actually performs just as well if not better than most Apple products (G5 based systems excluded). Yes, PowerBooks have faster RAM and better GPUs but a mini can be made fairly equal.

All I am saying if after all the other hardware lines have been updated, and Tiger is the default shipping OS across the board, and the new iPods are released ... then, maybe then new minis will come ... maybe.
 
rtdgoldfish said:
Yawn...

Honestly, how many of these rumors have we seen in the past month?? I will believe it when I can order it from Apple.

We've seen a rumor for a hardware update for just about every Tuesday in April, and half a dozen other dates as well. When the hardware finally does come out someone will probably be jumping up and down yelling, "see I told you I was right, I knew when they were coming out."

But at this point the S/N ration is so bad that even if they're right, no one can claim to have been "in the know."
 
gekko513 said:
No one in their right mind would expect a $499 computer to do pro or semi-pro video editing.

How is a maxed out Cube a $499 computer?
 
gekko513 said:
Well, then you're talking video editing, right?

No one in their right mind would expect a $499 computer to do pro or semi-pro video editing.
Perhaps.

I can't for the life of me remember where, but I have seen a demonstration video from a year or so back, where HD editing is shown in close-to realtime on a 1GHz TiBook with a prototype LaCie Bigger Disk; although this did require Firewire 800.

People have to remember, the low end nowadays is what people were using last year to do the very same thing, when it was the top-end. It's really not so far fetched. And so very off topic...
 
April 26th? Shouldn't this be on the main page instead of page 2? With all the Macs being updated, this is exciting stuff!!!!! Bring on my updated iMac 20" with Tiger! :cool:

Edit: Another interesting thing to note, that Amazon is offering a $100 rebate on the iMac 20" 1.8GHz, and the rebate expires April 26th. Hmmm... coincidence, or because A MODEL REFRESH! :cool:
 
I'll soon hopefully be selling my eMac to my mother so I can buy an iBook of my own...

Wow, possible 1.5Ghz and more video ram? Awesome.

Also 512MB standard? Hopefully that's the onboard module so that I can add another 512MB in there for 1Gig. (Was originally gonna shoot for 1.25GB (256+1GB))

I'm just hoping the price doesn't go up. About $1300 was the price I got when I BTOed my ideal iBook...I'd hate for it to be any more expensive than that.
 
cube said:
Well, I am talking about previewing effects interactively; not having to render a bit, then watch. As well as applying real-time effects to a video stream.

Don't you need a PowerMac for such editing? Why put down the Mac mini when what you're asking for is basically a PowerMac?
 
cube said:
How is a maxed out Cube a $499 computer?

What maxed out cube? The cube is an old Apple computer, we're not talking about that!

And the basic Mac mini is 499$US, so we're really not following you. You're asking pro/prosumer power from the lowest-cost Mac Apple has ever made.

This discussion started with the Radeon 9200/32MB not being CoreImage compatible and now it's "you can't do real-time video editing/previewing" on a 499$ computer?
 
I think in the end we all just want something to happen... It is just to sillint from the APPLE HARDWARE FRONT.... Don't you guys think?
 
le_coc said:
I think in the end we all just want something to happen... It is just to sillint from the APPLE HARDWARE FRONT.... Don't you guys think?


I agree..the sillince is deafening. :D
 
It's certainly not sillint on the software front, considering all the softwares goodies they brought out at NAB. I to think Apple is kwait on the hardware front.
 
Yvan256 said:
And the basic Mac mini is 499$US, so we're really not following you.

Just to nitpick.
A basic Mac Mini is about $574.
I'm sorry but whomever thinks you can run OS X at a decent click with 256MB on a 4200RPM drive needs a good strong steaming cup of "get a clue".
Not focusing that at you Yvan256 just a general comment on the minimum specs for the mini. Those who say they work day in and day out on such hardware and are doing "fine"...ummm.....aren't.
 
SiliconAddict said:
Just to nitpick.
A basic Mac Mini is about $574.
I'm sorry but whomever thinks you can run OS X at a decent click with 256MB on a 4200RPM drive needs a good strong steaming cup of "get a clue".
Not focusing that at you Yvan256 just a general comment.



My wife uses her iMac G4 800 with those exact specs, and hasn't had a problem in the 1.5 years she's been using it...mostly email, office, a few games, and some light photoshop work, although I've had to work briefly in large Indesign files with it, and it was unpleasent, but useable.

I agree that all Mac should come with 512MB just to make the experience that much better, and it's such a large difference, but your statement is just wrong. Plenty of people can and do run their mac with those specs. It's all about what your needs are.
 
Peyote said:
My wife uses her iMac G4 800 with those exact specs, and hasn't had a problem in the 1.5 years she's been using it...mostly email, office, a few games, and some light photoshop work, although I've had to work briefly in large Indesign files with it, and it was unpleasent, but useable.

I agree that all Mac should come with 512MB just to make the experience that much better, and it's such a large difference, but your statement is just wrong. Plenty of people can and do run their mac with those specs. It's all about what your needs are.

....case in point. :rolleyes: Tell me if all you've worked on was a 486 with 8MB of RAM you'd think it would be blazing wouldn’t you. Jack her system up to 512MB and see the difference. Also a 4800 desktop drive != a 4800 laptop drive. I'm sorry but the amount of beachballing I saw when playing around with a 256MB mini system at compUSA was appalling and this was like 2 days after they got the device so its not as if its been dinked with. Do you think its just chance that all the minis at both of my local Apple stores are all jacked up to 512MB. If 256MB was enough why bother.
 
I just read the AppleInsider article and noticed that they said that there were rumors of iBook price drops. Would this mean that not much of an update is expected and if it is the case, how much would the price drop be?
 
Prepare to be disappointed

Lacero said:
These are shotgun rumors. :D Eventually we'll hit the right target. "Reliable sources confirm PowerMacs will be updated sometime this year. Please stay tuned for more details as we get them."


Are you sure??? The way Apple's updates are going lately I wouldn't be shocked if it were 2006 before we see updates. I'm very disappointed lately (and I'm ready to buy an iMac or low end Powermac). If Apple doesn't do 970 MP or At least 3.0 GHz GX processors, I think they will be in trouble. They need both their pro users to be happy AND to stay competitive speed-wise with the top Athlon/Pentium machines (even if most users DON'T buy those fastest machines). It's a matter of perception.
 
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