AptBackup vs. PkgBackup

Discussion in 'Jailbreaks and iOS Hacks' started by jacobp, Aug 24, 2009.

  1. jacobp macrumors member

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    Hello. I am new to jailbreaking. I have a 3GS running OS3.0. I've seen lots of discussions (and horror stories) about using either of what appear to be the two main apps backup programs, AptBackup and PkgBackup. I've searched in vain for a side-by-side review, so I was wondering, what is the conventional wisdom on which one is better?

    Thanks.
     
  2. Oceansized macrumors member

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    Hi. Sorry, I cannot answer your question, but I'm the same as you. I'd like to know the difference between the two.
    Am I correct in saying that these programs will backup all my jailbreak settings/configuration? So when I need to update to 3.1 when it comes out I can jailbreak then restore my backup and all my jailbreak setting will be back to how they are now?

    Another quick question: Is it essential to do a restore before jailbreaking after a new apple update? Because when I done a jailbreak on my current firmware (3.0.1), I did not restore, and I've had no problems at all.
    When I update to 3.1 I know it will erase all my jailbreak stuff and my legit stuff will all be there, can I not then just jailbreak straight on to that? Then use the aptbackup to get my phone right back to exactly as it was on 3.0.1?

    Sorry if I've hijacked your thread a little!
    Any help is appreciated.
     
  3. STEVESKI07 macrumors 68000

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    I personally would never use any of those apps again. I have never tried PkgBackup but I have tried AptBackup and it really messed things up. Seems like it works for some people and not for others. My guess is there are certain apps that can't be installed together at the same time without royalling screwing things up. I don't know if it's Mobile Substrate or something else, unfortunately nobody really knows. On top of that, even if it does work, it doesn't do all the jailbreak configurations that you used to have, it just reinstalls all the apps for you. So basically you'd just save the time of manually going in and installing the apps yourself, if it works. My suggestion to you is to just make a note of all the modifications you made and then go in and manually do them again. I know it's a pain, but trust me when I say it's a lot better then AptBackup failing and messing things up.
     
  4. fishmd macrumors 68000

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    PkgBackup works and AptBackup does not really work that well. Also, PkgBackup is much easier to use. It is also up to date and being further developed. AptBackup I don't believe has been updated for sometime, which is probably why it does not work so well with the newer OS.
     
  5. rendez2k macrumors 6502

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    This is the impression I got from reading around so I bought it. The day has not come yet though to put it to the test!
     
  6. bytethese macrumors 68030

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    I've never heard of or used PkgBackup, but AptBackup has been 100% flawless every time I have used it. It's SUPER easy to use as there's only 2 buttons, Backup or Restore. It's that easy. :)
     
  7. rendez2k macrumors 6502

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    I can honestly answer this question now. I trashed my 3GS last night so have had to do a full restore. Luckily for me PkgBackup worked brilliantly! I just selected the programs and themes to restore and it restored them all without fuss. All I can say from this one experience is that its highly recommended.
     
  8. BergerFan macrumors 68020

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    AptBackup only creates a list of what you've downloaded, so when you re-jailbreak, and run it, it'll download those apps again.
    Does PkgBackup do the same, or does it actually backup the apps and their settings?
     
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  10. dhlizard macrumors G4

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    When I tried to use AptBackup to restore my JB apps and extensions, it made a total mess of the file system in my phone.

    I had 2 sets of files, all duplicates of each other. The phone was totally bonkers.

    I had to restore to non-JB state, then re-JB and put everything back in manually.

    I wasted several hours versus if I had not used AptBackup.

    3G on 3.0 JB-FW at that time.
     
  11. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    I agree aptbackup sucks. PkgBackup actually downloads the apps and installs them. saves a lot of time.
     
  12. rendez2k macrumors 6502

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    Used PkgBackup twice now. It worked great both times.
     
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  14. zvandiver macrumors member

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    Does anyone have any experience using PkgBackup after jailbreaking to 3.1 with the new Pwnage tool?
    I saw a post on the Dev-Team blog that mentioned problems using a backup program to restore jailbreak apps.
     
  15. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    Thanks, Steve
     
  17. Born2fly23 macrumors newbie

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    Please someone help!!!!!!! Apt Backup sux.

    Apt Backup erased all of my iTunes downloaded apps. The computer won't recognized the iPhone, so I can't restore... So I'd have to reinstall 123 apps including my $29.99 SlingPlayer. Hell no... I refuse to pay for something I already have. I see that all of the apps are still on iTunes. HELP!!!!!!!
     
  18. rendez2k macrumors 6502

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    As long as you are logged into iTunes with the same account you used to buy the apps, you won't be re-charged. I think this thread should be a formal warning to everyone not to use Apt Backup! Its not been updated for ages and has hardly worked for anyone. Pay the price for PkgBackup (which worked great agin this weekend) or re-install by hand!
     
  19. Mystikal macrumors 68020

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    Dont mean to bump an old thread by PkgBackup is AMAZING.
     
  20. MattWylde macrumors regular

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    I second that. PkgBackup is awesome. I even transferred all of my Cydia apps to my newly JB iPod Touch 2G. Worked perfectly!

    I've heard nothing but terror stories with AptBackup.
     
  21. cashonly macrumors newbie

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    If you use pkgbackup, does it also backup your settings?

    It seems like you'd need Chronus and AppBackup or something for that. If so, is there a recommended sequence? ie:
    On backup:
    Run PkgBackup to backup
    Run AppBackup to backup
    Run Chronus to backup
    On Restore:
    Do iTunes restore
    Run PkgBackup to restore
    Run AppBackup to restore
    Run Chronus to restore

    ?
     
  22. Gix1k macrumors 68030

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  23. BergerFan macrumors 68020

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    Could someone confirm or deny this(re: PkgBackup) please?
    I know that the Rock installer does what AptBackup claims to do, but it just reinstalls the apps from fresh.
     
  24. thelatinist macrumors 603

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    PkgBackup installs the latest version of every package you had installed on your phone. It does not preserve application data. The developer says that the next release will restore categories as well.



    The main difference between AptBackup and PkgBackup is that AptBackup requires that you restore your phone from a backup. It is therefore pretty worthless if you do a major version upgrade and want to set up as a new phone. Pkgbackup saves your information as a contact, which can be synced from your computer, allowing you to restore even after setting up your phone as new.
     
  25. iPhone-power macrumors 6502a

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    It does not back up your apps and settings.
     

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