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Shift+Alt+Printscreen? What does that do? I remember printscreen and alt+printscreen, but not with shift thrown in.

it puts it into some vision-disability mode with inverted colors. I only know that because in my programming class, when the teacher tells us to turn off our monitors while he teachers we do that (otherwise he sees the glow on our faces and knows we're coding.)
 
I think Apple could do it tastefully, they just have to have moderation, not all black, nor all aqua, nor all white or brushed or whatever.

I think some things look good how they are now (aqua or graphite scrollbars and menu, iTunes sidebar, grey transparency as implemented in iPhoto, iTunes)...some things, not too hot (brushed interfaces, iTunes flat scroll bars).

There is no reason they can't combine this all together in some great looking package, they just need to make it consistent across their apps (or at least have a reasoned and consistent method for inconsistences (i.e. Mail, iCal, Address Book look slightly different from iLife apps, look slightly different from Finder due to functional reasons for differences, not some haphazard mixture).

like I said, look at coverflow. its on itunes, the itunes music store... now it would seem its on leopard.
 
Jumping to extremes

If this is introduced... I think it you will be able to choose from Light (current UI) or Dark (Black maybe?). It'd be an neat idea seeing we have MacBooks in a black or white. Maybe they will add Black iMacs one day too. Not sure I'd Like that.

But again who knows.... it could be nothing.
 
As a follow-up to my previous post, I should add I think the name "Illuminous" may refer to the new UI, but it goes alongside Aqua.

It will probably be used for non-standard things: buying from iTunes Store, Front Row, Dashboard, Coverflow, Time Machine, etc.

So "Illuminous" would be for developers, so they can standardize on this new look. (They would also need to publish and follow their guidelines.)

I think Aqua will be updated, hopefully getting rid of the brushed metal confusion, unifying the Aqua UI.
 
If this is introduced... I think it you will be able to choose from Light (current UI) or Dark (Black maybe?). It'd be an neat idea seeing we have MacBooks in a black or white. Maybe they will add Black iMacs one day too. Not sure I'd Like that.

But again who knows.... it could be nothing.

i like this idea of a couple of choices from which to choose.

~kyle
 
Most of Apple's pro apps use a darker UI, which I find more pleasing and less strenuous on the eye.

I've tried UNO and ShapeShifter to apply a darker theme to the general OS, and largely have been pleased with my hacks to change the Aqua interface a little darker so it isn't as lickable. Aqua is so 2000. pfft :p

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Illuminous (name and concept) sounds like a worthy successor to Aqua from what I've read, so far. It's time for a UI change anyway, so I'm giving this rumour a 7/10.

Is there any way that I can get a link to that shapeshifter theme?

Also, I'm glad Apple is finally updating the Aqua GUI. It's starting to get boring. Whatever Apple does with it, I'm sure it will look awesome.
 
I highly doubt there will be a choice in UI. That does not seem to be the direction Apple has gone with OS X/iPod so far.

Also, if this rumour is true, this would likely be a whole new theme, and not just a colour change. (Why would a "black" option alongside "blue" and "graphite" be called "Illuminous"?) So I don't see it as the same as graphite/blue at all from what we know.
 
apple, form is important as long as it follows function

INNOVATE.

give us 3d UIs. give us physics. give us ZUIs. give us touch screens. stop burdening us with windows full of icons and scroll bars where we have to poke at our computers like monkeys in a science experiment.
 
Or, they could attempt something like this again *shudder*.

I wish they would. The Copland themes were very cool. They weren't just collections of static images to be replaced. The UI elements had behaviors driven by code. Sort of like the pulsing default button in Aqua.

--Sebastian
 
I like the idea of moving into a user interface based on shadows, light, luminance, those things that "Luminous" implies. It would be a brilliant (pun) change of dimension from differently shaped/colored buttons. The search field in the system preferences is already sort of like this.
 
I don't buy an ounce of this rumor. Sure, Apple is going to be adding some cool new features to Leopard's Aqua implementation, but I just don't see them scrapping the whole thing for a dot release of the OS. My guess, some moron saw Vista running fullscreen on someone's MacBook and thought it was the Mac OS.

Doesn't make sense to replace the UI in a dot release of the OS. Come on folks, something that major will be for Mac OS XI (11, or whatever it ends up as). Of course, there was speculation that Leopard may become OS XI, but the jury was still out the last I knew.

Or, I may be wrong and Apple will change their UI the same time that Microsoft does, but that seems a bit odd.

god. apple's decision to make major os updates as dot-releases has to be one of their worst marketing moves ever. so many people spread FUD about this, even from with the mac community it's not even funny.

10.1 was the only true dot release in X's history. 10.2, 10.3, 10.4 and 10.5 are the equivalent of 7, 8, 8.5 and 9. they are major releases.

as for not introducing massive UI shifts, apple did so with system 6, system 7 and OS 8.

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personally i think that a GUI change has been in the cards for a long time at apple HQ. i see 10.0 - 10.4 as being the same thing as system 1-6. apple continually upgraded the system, features and capabilities adding new UI conventions here and there. the system 7 came along and cleaned it all up, no more multifinder, unified and spruced up UI, etc...

interestingly enough system 7 appeared a little less than 7 and a half years after system 1, 10.5 would be six years later, 7/8 if you count the public beta.
 
apple, form is important as long as it follows function

INNOVATE.

give us 3d UIs. give us physics. give us ZUIs. give us touch screens. stop burdening us with windows full of icons and scroll bars where we have to poke at our computers like monkeys in a science experiment.

It's funny cuz it's true. Keyboards and mouses have been around for quite a while now...
 
If Apple indeed changes the Aqua to that black gloss, that would be awful.

It looks ugly and dark in the GUI, and it's used in Vista! :eek: Apple copying Vista? :confused: :eek:
 
It's funny cuz it's true. Keyboards and mouses have been around for quite a while now...

You are right. Got first mouse in the early 80's and they weren't new then. If you can think of the next big UI idea, the one that will replace windows and a mouse you will be rich.

Toch screens are slow if they are large, to much arm motion. Voice is slow too.

I think you could do great things if the display were a pair of 3D goggles and a camera that would read hand/finger movements.

What I really want is the secretary who can "find Bob and get him on the phone for me" and knows which "Bob" I mean and who might know where he is. and then I say "I need to go to Huston again Tuesday for an afternoon meeting" and the computer knows how to take it from there.... Maybe we will have this in 50 years.

But then when they made the film "2001", in the 60's they thought we'd have "Hal" by 2001. Now I'm saying "50 years". Maybe.
 
This seems logical, but who knows? Its Apple ;)

There's never going to be an OSXI, there's too much marketing invested in the name "OSX".

I've already started referring to OSX version 4, OSX version 5, etc. My guess is Apple will either go that way or just move away from version numbers (like MS did years ago) and keep pushing the naming. Version numbers have been deemed too confusing for the average person (yes, there is a tinge of sarcasm in that statement -- everyone, Microsoft, Intel, etc are moving away from numbers because its too hard to hide what you're doing).

What I am doing is taking a very long winded way to say there are very good odds that Jaguar _was_ OS 11 and Leopard is going to be OS 12.
 
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